MAD MEN on AMC - Seasons 7(a) & & 7(b)

always took harry to be this joke that he's sort of behind the scenes doing all the heavy lifting that makes the agency profitable but he's boring and unpalatable so we focus on these ineffectual show ponies with tortured inner lives. maybe that's a bit fanciful.

like Harry's away from all the drama, actually making money for them, while they strut around on the "tv" he makes possible. like a meta character.

v. generous reading, lol

haha yes.

also I saw Harry, the actor who plays him, on the F train in Brooklyn once. so that supports my thesis.

you guys have the weirdest harry-blindness just because he's a shmuck

dude started the agency's tv department and forged all the links with the networks that led to very profitable media buys

otm

or yes, what ryan said

it does amuse me how he sort of enrages people in these mad men threads, maybe because he's the most like a message board poster irl??

yeah he's been a valuable employee but more importantly he's a schmuck

Always thought he was a (relatively speaking) likable schmuck tho. Don't get why people genuinely seem to HATE the guy.

he doesn't seem to have many core values, but then not many characters on the show do

i don't hate him but his comparative misfortune is funny.

from the central casting facebook feed:

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is sally checking out colleges already?

It's probably for something else. I know some people attached to a "early days of NASA" pilot that's due to start shooting here later this year/early '15. There's bound to be more. #panamtaughtthemnothing

that reminds me - anyone watch the halt and catch fire pilot? any good?

Has it already aired? I thought it was this coming Sunday.

was Pan Am really that bad? i'm not sure it even aired over here.

AMC put the Halt and Catch Fire pilot up on tumblr for some weird reason

also that early days of NASA show is from a couple of Mad Men writers

c'mon everyone who works for a bureaucracy knows a Harry: "dependable," often valuable, but you groan having to sit next to him at the annual company awards dinner. He's forgettable.

led to very profitable media buys

see, here's the thing, NO ONE on the show has ever acknowledged that Harry's efforts have any significant impact on the firm's bottom line. to assume that this is the case, that he is somehow the one bringing in all the money, is just bizarre.

Cutler didn't get him a computer because he saw Harry as the firm's golden calf, he did it because a NYT article made him nervous about the competition.

haha why because they've never had a scene where they directly point to their ledgers??

your harry fixation is the thing that's bizarre

like over and over again the show has made it clear that nobody likes him but they tolerate him, even almost elevate him to partner, because he brings in the cash

i can't even imagine what you think is going on in this show if you don't grasp that

yes he performs a role. it is not the central moneymaking role.

weird thread

are you guys still talking about harry ffs

*changes channel*

we have no idea how much money he brings in, it could be central!

zzzz

I think it's implied pretty strongly, if not said outright at some point, that Harry was at minimum very important to the survival of the firm in past seasons.

loved this 7 episode run but feel weirdly unsatisfied. hope this is the end of these half seasons.

oh it's the end allright

Season 7(b): Weird Scenes Inside The Creative Lounge

there is no creative lounge

Not with that attitude.

The evidence that Harry is important is in the fact that they took him with them when they left Sterling Cooper when they could have left him behind with Kinsey and the other lamerz, despite the fact that he's clearly the guy who no one likes. And they're still making major investments on his say so. Buy everyone else exists in their own rarefied strata that they think is the single most important thing, that's how most office dynamics work.

It was also kinda lol that Don could have hated Megan's party so much that he'd rather go for a drink with Harry, who he hates.

that was super lol

Harry… Lame.

convincing argument, you could argue they just recognize the importance of his dept but they specifically bring him on instead of just finding someone else, presumably that means he brings a specific value to the table.

instead of just finding someone else

they had one weekend to set their company up, that's not really time to find someone else. also they didn't offer him anything or even ask him to join, they just told him to and if he said no Bert was going to lol lock him in the closet

This is probably the most anybody's ever talked about Harry Crane in a 48 hour period in the history of the world.

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they found a new art director and managed to replace almost all of the sales staff in addition to creative (cosgrove didn't come over til later). looking into it i'd forgotten harry's role in sal's firing, that he had (somewhat weakly) tried to prevent it.

matt and balls otm.

It was also kinda lol that Don could have hated Megan's party so much that he'd rather go for a drink with Harry, who he hates.

― Matt DC, Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:13 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in the context of that episode it also had to do w/ don being basically frozen out of any meaningful presence in the workplace and seeking some shop talk as well as some scuttlebutt.

cosgrove is probably the most underused character in last 1.5 seasons. he sticks around and makes an appearance every other episode but hasn't had a proper plot line since he left the chevy account.

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early on they made cosgrove the guy at the firm with the firmest grasp of ethical principles so maybe the writers just find him a boring character to write for.