MAD MEN on AMC - Seasons 7(a) & & 7(b)

your harry fixation is the thing that's bizarre

like over and over again the show has made it clear that nobody likes him but they tolerate him, even almost elevate him to partner, because he brings in the cash

i can't even imagine what you think is going on in this show if you don't grasp that

yes he performs a role. it is not the central moneymaking role.

weird thread

are you guys still talking about harry ffs

*changes channel*

we have no idea how much money he brings in, it could be central!

zzzz

I think it's implied pretty strongly, if not said outright at some point, that Harry was at minimum very important to the survival of the firm in past seasons.

loved this 7 episode run but feel weirdly unsatisfied. hope this is the end of these half seasons.

oh it's the end allright

Season 7(b): Weird Scenes Inside The Creative Lounge

there is no creative lounge

Not with that attitude.

The evidence that Harry is important is in the fact that they took him with them when they left Sterling Cooper when they could have left him behind with Kinsey and the other lamerz, despite the fact that he's clearly the guy who no one likes. And they're still making major investments on his say so. Buy everyone else exists in their own rarefied strata that they think is the single most important thing, that's how most office dynamics work.

It was also kinda lol that Don could have hated Megan's party so much that he'd rather go for a drink with Harry, who he hates.

that was super lol

Harry… Lame.

convincing argument, you could argue they just recognize the importance of his dept but they specifically bring him on instead of just finding someone else, presumably that means he brings a specific value to the table.

instead of just finding someone else

they had one weekend to set their company up, that's not really time to find someone else. also they didn't offer him anything or even ask him to join, they just told him to and if he said no Bert was going to lol lock him in the closet

This is probably the most anybody's ever talked about Harry Crane in a 48 hour period in the history of the world.

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they found a new art director and managed to replace almost all of the sales staff in addition to creative (cosgrove didn't come over til later). looking into it i'd forgotten harry's role in sal's firing, that he had (somewhat weakly) tried to prevent it.

matt and balls otm.

It was also kinda lol that Don could have hated Megan's party so much that he'd rather go for a drink with Harry, who he hates.

― Matt DC, Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:13 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in the context of that episode it also had to do w/ don being basically frozen out of any meaningful presence in the workplace and seeking some shop talk as well as some scuttlebutt.

cosgrove is probably the most underused character in last 1.5 seasons. he sticks around and makes an appearance every other episode but hasn't had a proper plot line since he left the chevy account.

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early on they made cosgrove the guy at the firm with the firmest grasp of ethical principles so maybe the writers just find him a boring character to write for.

firm/firmest

firmest grip on a new secretary's ass maybe

looks pretty firm to me

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Forgot how easy the TV Department came to Harry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dmnkS0e7uo

which one rode one of the girls like a horse? I can never remember if that was Ken or Roger or what

roger with one of the twins, iirc

It was Roger, wasn't it? He was blitzed out of his mind right before they broke away from original Sterling Cooper to form SCDP.

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that always bothered me, that in the early 60s (by which point the important of television advertising had long since proven itself), that a big-leagues NY advertising firm would not have already had a TV department. the biggest ad firms were packaging TV shows by 1949 if not earlier.

haha harry and rog conversations are fantastic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4vz66IDcLY

they were such rascals in the early seasons!

here is the kind of ethical dilemma the writers came up with for ken

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hahaha

his face! the guilt!

If you don't like it, we can have the conversation you THOUGHT we were having.

My wishlist for the upcoming episodes.. more Ken Cosgrove, more Ted, keeping up the funny Pete scenes, some reappearance of Sal and Ginsberg, something about Peggy's baby and hopefully Don Draper not falling back into bad habits.

lol @ "why do you carry so much cash?"

I need to see another Pete tantrum, or total freakout before the series ends.

If they do a time jump, it's possible my series-long theory of the show starting with Peggy's first day and ending with her having Don's job could come to fruition. I'M A GENIUS!

loud ditto to that last one. i'm fine w/ certain characters stories being basically told, i don't need to see vito go to new hampshire again. think there's possibly more to tell w/ ted and think there was definitely more to tell w/ ginsberg but i've been happy that all we see of stan outside the office is hot chicks sleeping in his bed beneath that moshe dayan poster. the show's about don and peg and to a lesser extent rog and pete and joan and sally and betty. sal would be nice to see again as fan service, he's the russian from pine barrens at this point, but i don't think it will happen, that dude talked to the press too much.

If you don't like it, we can have the conversation you THOUGHT we were having.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, May 29, 2014 2:54 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

such a good scene

Kenny is kind of redundant at this point, in the early days his function was to act as the focal point of various other characters' desires and/or resentment (Pete, Kinsey, Sal). But from the moment Bob Benson appeared as a better foil for Pete, Kenny felt kind of redundant. I'm happy when he pops up onscreen but I literally don't care about his character at all.

Feel like they could have done more with Joan over the last season or so, her last big story was the Jaguar thing and she's one of the three best characters easily.

Ken's still good for eye jokes.