New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

Genuinely excited about Swift.

whats good about swift

it's a modern language with a lot of nice features

but what people are really excited about is the prospect of NOT using objective-c for mac/ios development, obj-c being a very odd and verbose language

Heath ceramics makes nice stuff ime

I like Objective-C, but Swift looks like it keeps the stuff I like and I never have to see that fucking block syntax again

there's a chance i'll be learning it, so there's that. got the ibook.

With markers I'm not sure if he's excited about Taylor or the code

that's an odd way to refer to someone who's right here

anyway, i made a taylor swift "joke"/reference/whatever on fb, but i'm not sure who got it. with that being said, there's a chance i might actually teach myself this. i'm reading ben horowitz's book about startups right now, but after that's over, or perhaps at some other point, i might dive into the documentation

Hah I just couldn't find an appropriate post of yours to quote thasall

markers do you know about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Bandai_Pippin

woah

the odd steps made in interest of ideas

Nice exposure for Wild Beasts during the demos

Just learned the Pippen game controller was called AppleJack lol

anyone install the ios8 beta? I've put it on a spare ipad, and it crashed when I try to move or delete apps. Wondering if the phone is the same?

Super-beta at the moment. Wouldn't use it for anything other than code testing right now.

for some reason I was enthusiastic and installed 10.10 yesterday. not bad! some visual glitches, though. the menu bar text disappeared completely and it failed to show the right app name a couple times.

if you put any of that shit on your primary device, you're nuts

Hah I just couldn't find an appropriate post of yours to quote thasall

― 龜, Monday, June 2, 2014 11:11 PM

np

markers do you know about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Bandai_Pippin

― 龜, Monday, June 2, 2014 11:28 PM

i know very little about pre-1997 apple, but i had heard of that

I guess my laptop isn't really my primary anymore! But yeah, I have backups out the wazoo.

tbh my primary device at home is my iPad or iPhone

i've been running beta OSs on my main system since windows whistler without much issue aside from app compatibility

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/04/apples-ipad-porn-android-tablet-users

if you put any of that shit on your primary device, you're nuts

― markers, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 10:12 AM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thanks Gruber, but some of us don't just have extra ios devices lying around.

great insult. it's good advice, even if you're too stupid to take it

also: fuck you.

idk, if you're a fledgling developer and need to use new API stuff you're kind of stuck with the crashes

relax dude... I've heard your direct quote from him too. But reality is often far from ideal. Just wondering if anyone has tried it out.

I think markers is trying to say he has one iOS device and would like to try the OS already but feels it'd be a bad idea

look, i have one ipad and zero iphones, so i get it. this is what it comes down to: if i were a developer and needed to test my iphone or ipad app on actual hardware in addition to the simulator, i would put ios 8 on my ipad and run the apps there. but in doing so i'd be accepting that my system would be unstable for a little while, perhaps even past the launch. (ios 7 still does wonky shit.) so, if you're not a developer, there's no way you should put the beta on there unless you're absolutely okay with the consequences

who was it . . . marco? who did this and then regretted it? i don't remember exactly

but optimize for whatever you want. if it's testing out the latest and greatest, do it. otherwise, don't

Yeah I'm aware that betas are buggy. I'm working on an ios project right now and as I said upthread I've got it running on a spare ipad already, but there are some things you can't test with an ipad/ipod touch and I don't have a spare iphone so I am cautious about upgrading the one I do have. I was just asking if anyone here has first hand experience with how buggy this one is at the moment.

if you put any of that shit on your primary device, you're nuts

― markers, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 10:12 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol u realize you reader of many blogs are giving computer advice to actual software developers right

haha i was gonna say

cool to see people who i thought were acquaintences putting me down

couldn't care less what gbx thinks tho

hey lagoon, don't talk to me anymore, ok?

i'm not happy. thanks for calling me "you reader of many blogs," and for making me have negative feelings towards you, someone whom i've never really been a dick to. i don't get it. is there something wrong with expressing an opinion? sorry i don't know objective-c or swift. there's a chance i will at some point. i do understand some of the basics of programming. but i should still be able to come here and give an opinion without getting attacked unprovoked, especially by you. you also are really, seriously underselling how much i know about things by calling me that. but cool job attempting to dismiss me and paint you and the others as somehow superior.

don't chum the water dude

i would much rather accomplish what i need to accomplish today than sit here feeling like this, but there's no way i'm just going to walk away

it's too bad that the ilx apple community isn't much better than it is

back on topic

I got one of those trash can mac pros at work yesterday. weird how elegant it is meant to be but realistically i have to plug in like 15 chords in the back and it just looks ridiculous after that. Fast tho.

lol "back on topic"

no

thanks for putting me in this mood. i did not need that this week

you know what, i'm just not going to post in this thread anymore. have fun

As someone with some degree of experience being diplomatic on internet forums, I'd suggest it's as much about semantics. if you put any of that shit on your primary device, you're nuts could raise some hackles.

I don't want to fight about it. markers I don't really know you, but I appreciate your enthusiasm here. Sorry for being snarky, let's get past this.

some jokester at apple likes firefly:
http://i.imgur.com/kbBNaqm.jpg

markers, nobody is criticizing you personally, just your comment that raised some hackles because it came off as abrasive and a little out of left field

go have some iced tea or something and walk around the block before reapproaching the thread