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i've been running beta OSs on my main system since windows whistler without much issue aside from app compatibility

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/04/apples-ipad-porn-android-tablet-users

if you put any of that shit on your primary device, you're nuts

― markers, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 10:12 AM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thanks Gruber, but some of us don't just have extra ios devices lying around.

great insult. it's good advice, even if you're too stupid to take it

also: fuck you.

idk, if you're a fledgling developer and need to use new API stuff you're kind of stuck with the crashes

relax dude... I've heard your direct quote from him too. But reality is often far from ideal. Just wondering if anyone has tried it out.

I think markers is trying to say he has one iOS device and would like to try the OS already but feels it'd be a bad idea

look, i have one ipad and zero iphones, so i get it. this is what it comes down to: if i were a developer and needed to test my iphone or ipad app on actual hardware in addition to the simulator, i would put ios 8 on my ipad and run the apps there. but in doing so i'd be accepting that my system would be unstable for a little while, perhaps even past the launch. (ios 7 still does wonky shit.) so, if you're not a developer, there's no way you should put the beta on there unless you're absolutely okay with the consequences

who was it . . . marco? who did this and then regretted it? i don't remember exactly

but optimize for whatever you want. if it's testing out the latest and greatest, do it. otherwise, don't

Yeah I'm aware that betas are buggy. I'm working on an ios project right now and as I said upthread I've got it running on a spare ipad already, but there are some things you can't test with an ipad/ipod touch and I don't have a spare iphone so I am cautious about upgrading the one I do have. I was just asking if anyone here has first hand experience with how buggy this one is at the moment.

if you put any of that shit on your primary device, you're nuts

― markers, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 10:12 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol u realize you reader of many blogs are giving computer advice to actual software developers right

haha i was gonna say

cool to see people who i thought were acquaintences putting me down

couldn't care less what gbx thinks tho

hey lagoon, don't talk to me anymore, ok?

i'm not happy. thanks for calling me "you reader of many blogs," and for making me have negative feelings towards you, someone whom i've never really been a dick to. i don't get it. is there something wrong with expressing an opinion? sorry i don't know objective-c or swift. there's a chance i will at some point. i do understand some of the basics of programming. but i should still be able to come here and give an opinion without getting attacked unprovoked, especially by you. you also are really, seriously underselling how much i know about things by calling me that. but cool job attempting to dismiss me and paint you and the others as somehow superior.

don't chum the water dude

i would much rather accomplish what i need to accomplish today than sit here feeling like this, but there's no way i'm just going to walk away

it's too bad that the ilx apple community isn't much better than it is

back on topic

I got one of those trash can mac pros at work yesterday. weird how elegant it is meant to be but realistically i have to plug in like 15 chords in the back and it just looks ridiculous after that. Fast tho.

lol "back on topic"

no

thanks for putting me in this mood. i did not need that this week

you know what, i'm just not going to post in this thread anymore. have fun

As someone with some degree of experience being diplomatic on internet forums, I'd suggest it's as much about semantics. if you put any of that shit on your primary device, you're nuts could raise some hackles.

I don't want to fight about it. markers I don't really know you, but I appreciate your enthusiasm here. Sorry for being snarky, let's get past this.

some jokester at apple likes firefly:
http://i.imgur.com/kbBNaqm.jpg

markers, nobody is criticizing you personally, just your comment that raised some hackles because it came off as abrasive and a little out of left field

go have some iced tea or something and walk around the block before reapproaching the thread

"I know a lot more than you think" is never really a good look, in any situation, though

it's also not a good look to condescend to someone who has higher level knowledge than your particular expertise. good luck ever having a good relationship with a manager if that is your attitude. there were a few nagls in this exchange.

for what it's worth, calling people out who are just throwing around ideas is kind of weird. I kind of postulated about what the heck Iovine/Dre would be able to do in Apple and posted a link to someone else having the same speculation, but I wasn't really attached to that idea at all -- I just kind of thought it'd be neat, but very unlikely

the hard insistence that people, especially these blog pundits, _know_ things and that you can _know_ what apple or whoever will do by reading these tea leaves that are apple fan blogs, biographies, and historical detours is magical thinking

yeah, I just think "lol u realize you reader of many blogs are giving computer advice to actual software developers right" is an attitude that someone with overly rigid thinking tends to have. you can miss out on some good ideas with that attitude. obviously, the stakes were lower in this case, but that then begs why one needs to be so dickishly defensive about credentials.

hey lagoon, don't talk to me anymore, ok?

― markers, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 12:11 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh come on markers

marked lack of lust objects here

yeah, I just think "lol u realize you reader of many blogs are giving computer advice to actual software developers right" is an attitude that someone with overly rigid thinking tends to have. you can miss out on some good ideas with that attitude. obviously, the stakes were lower in this case, but that then begs why one needs to be so dickishly defensive about credentials.

― Sufjenga Cat Giffin (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:52 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh come on sufjan grafton

im gonna give everyone such a karate chop, and we havent even mentioned swift yet

swift seems cool

cool

I am interested in reading your criticism of it, though

I don't think it was credentials, it was like... don't act like you're imparting knowledge

I read part of the swift book thingy on my flight back the other day. The basics look good but I haven't looked into how it looks syntactically with the cocoa stuff yet. The type of variables that are constants by default seemed familiar -- what other languages do that?

i certainly dont know enough abt that sort of thing to criticize it, i mean i can kinda make an app but not that much xp

I don't think it was credentials, it was like... don't act like you're imparting knowledge

― a strange man (mh), Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:02 PM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah also it was kinda funny particularly cause it was someone who has no reason to put a beta on their computer telling people who do not to

yeah fwiw I saw a lot of myself in legumes post, so I judged harshly. I think there were missteps on both sides like I said. Prbly should have saved it for a tumblr post.

i feel like maybe u were just considering it more deeply than it was intended, it was more of a rmde type moment than anything

SOMEONE ELSE may have taken it a lil too seriously too

Damn this thread is no chill

No chill

lol

anyway i hope markers rage at my attempting putting of him into his place builds until he has no choice but to learn to build apps just to show me how i have no idea what im talking about and he makes millions of dollars and leads a fruitful happy life and forgets all about how mad he was and we are friends again

You're a dick.