Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

this is ilx 2014
not a vintage year

even among the varieties of american spree shooter, i think more of them have been motivated by misogyny than is generally considered. jared loughner, schizophrenic though he may be, had a big woman problem:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/scocca/2011/01/17/maybe_jared_loughner_was_a_bigot_after_all.html

http://www.king5.com/news/cities/seattle/Suspect-in-custody-two-injured-in-shooting-at-Seattle-Pacific-262043591.html

in orbit u and I have now been ~tone policed~, let us pray together

we as a nation do not care about murdered children

the most effective thing you can do is probably to send a check to a gun-control lobby group, since it should be clear by now that the only voice that matters in American governance is that of money. We need to buy up and bully some senators of our own.

meanwhile
in the toy department of target

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/05/loaded-gun-target-south-carolina

Οὖτις, you may have outwitted Polyphemus with your cunning choice of name, but that last post of yours is beyond mockery

let us remind ourselves that Rodger knifed to death three fucking housemates before his gun rampage

jesus fucking christ another one in seattle!

fuck this country

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/05/justice/seattle-campus-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

the most effective thing you can do IMO is to bring up children, whether yours or others', to respect one another

Goddamnit, babies...

jesus, SPU thing is terrifying. lived for years w/in blocks, walked that campus a thousand times.

let us remind ourselves that Rodger knifed to death three fucking housemates before his gun rampage

what's the point of reminding ourselves this? are you suggesting that a knife is as deadly as a gun in the context of mass violence?

dnftt

the point of reminding ourselves of this, is to ridicule

the most effective thing you can do is probably to send a check to a gun-control lobby group, since it should be clear by now that the only voice that matters in American governance is that of money. We need to buy up and bully some senators of our own.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 June 2014 23:45 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there is a sickness in the mind of certain members of the disenfranchised and it goes deeper than guns IMO. taking away their guns won't cure or prevent their mental sickness. yeah, by all means campaign to restrict gun usage or w/e but it won't stop the core problem IMO

no more guns and games of the moind

and I'm well aware that guns are symbols of unequally-levied death - if there was a tarot card for the gun, it would represent, perhaps, the selfish ego - so to wield a gun is to wield one's insecurity - I get this - and perhaps guns feed into any egotistical disorder one might suffer - but overwhelmingly they are symptomatic of and subordinate to a greater sickness - one that concerns self-dissatisfaction and fear - one that is thrown down the throats of children every day, often, of their lives

It's probably a lot easier to sit there stroking your chin abt guns when this isn't happening in your country, which has gun restrictions

Second worst thing about spree shootings is Groundhog Day arguments about whether we should focus on (a) guns, (b) mental illness or (c) misogyny/racism/extremism.

taking away their guns won't cure or prevent their mental sickness.

obviously this case is symptomatic of many failings of society but it's a facile argument to suggest that the harm/severity of this event wouldn't have been reduced by taking rodger's guns away.

Second worst thing about spree shootings is Groundhog Day arguments about whether we should focus on (a) guns, (b) mental illness or (c) misogyny/racism/extremism.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, June 6, 2014 7:41 AM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also we should focus on all of these things

it's just....metal illness is very complex....so is misogyny/racism/extremism....and while i have little hope we have the political will to do any of them, i think there are some fairly common sense gun control things we could do that could have a massive effect

metal illness is very complex

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/MetalHealthQuietRiot.jpg

haha i think i had metal on the brain

It is fun to think about magic solutions where the world is cleared of all evil. But you eventually have to simplify the problem and attack it from a statistical POV.

I have an idea to simplify the problem, BAN GUNS

yes, that is basically what I'm saying!

suggest ban guns

I have an idea to simplify the problem, BAN GUNS

this idea is so crazy... it just might work

http://blogs.northampton.ac.uk/history/files/2014/03/a-team-t-shirt-hannibal-a-plan-comes-together.jpg

I have an idea to simplify the problem, BAN GUNS

this idea is so crazy... it just might work

― Οὖτις, Friday, June 6, 2014 11:26 AM

just like it did for drugs http://www.lashresort.com/f/public/style_emoticons/default/smug-arms.gif

now we just have to convince people that guns can be dangerous

the crazy thing is I learned of the SPU shooting when I was... at a vigil for victims of another shooting in Seattle

lol am0n

Also in Seattle, a former co-worker is on lockdown at his new job after someone pulled a gun on a couple people next door.

ah, all resolved actually, guy got arrested, the gun was fake.

fake guns > real guns

Especially those chocolate ones

http://gawker.com/video-shows-cops-shootout-with-sovereign-citizen-at-g-1587329275

(CNN) -- Two police officers and a third person were killed by two gunmen in Las Vegas on Sunday, according to Las Vegas Metropolitan Police spokeswoman Laura Meltzer.

The attackers first opened fire and killed the officers at about 11:30 a.m. as they were eating lunch, she said.

Witnesses told police that the gunmen said "this is a revolution."

The shooters then crossed a street and went to a Walmart where the third person was killed at the store's entrance, Meltzer said.

The suspects then killed themselves, she said.

Walmart spokeswoman Brooke Buchanan released a statement: "We express our deepest condolences to everyone who have been affected by this senseless act of violence."

The store is closed, and the company is working with investigators, the statement said.

what's this, like one a week now?

Walmart spokeswoman Brooke Buchanan released a statement: "We express our deepest condolences to everyone who have been affected by this senseless act of violence."

"btw, buy the affordable guns we sell," he added.

walmart should give a 20% discount to anyone shot by a gun sold from their store. 40% discount (limited to one item) for anyone whose loved one is killed by a walmart gun.

If only those police officers had been armed

3 in the past 5 days that I've heard about: Moncton on Weds, Seattle after that, now Vegas.

Vegas one is weird. Two shooters, one female.

I've noticed some news outlets have started toning down coverage of the shooters themselves - less mentions of them by name, less images of them... Or at least debating whether they should put some self-imposed limits on how they cover these people. I wonder if it could actually have an effect if an effort was made to intensely de-glamourize them. Somehow I doubt it would make all that much of a difference to paranoid schizophrenic gun nuts but might make for a marginally more sane culture.

no one shot yet but a guy with an assault rifle is pacing around a roof in LA right now

https://twitter.com/TheRyanParker/status/476071645447086080

ok apparently he just got off the roof like a second ago

now whats he doing

(i'm basically just retweeting this la times guy so click that last tweet for info) first it said it looked like he was walking toward police, but now apparently he is barricaded in a house?

@LAPDHQ: All residents in the 11600 blk of Hartsook in North Hollywood, PLEASE stay inside. Armed and Dangerous suspect with rifle.

Brio2 : "We’ve had 20 years of mass murders, throughout which I have repeatedly told CNN and our other media: If you don’t want to propagate more mass murders, don’t start the stories with sirens blaring, don’t have photographs of the killer, don’t make this 24/7 coverage. Do everything you can not to make the body count the lead story, not to make the killer some kind of anti-hero; do localize this story to the affected community and make it as boring as possible in every other market. Because every time we have intense saturation coverage of a mass murder, we expect to see one or two more within a week."

Dr. Park Dietz, Forensic Psychiatrist

Shots fired at Oregon high school

http://koin.com/2014/06/10/shots-fired-at-troutdales-reynolds-high-school/