It's probably a lot easier to sit there stroking your chin abt guns when this isn't happening in your country, which has gun restrictions
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 June 2014 12:25 (nine years ago) link
Second worst thing about spree shootings is Groundhog Day arguments about whether we should focus on (a) guns, (b) mental illness or (c) misogyny/racism/extremism.
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 6 June 2014 12:41 (nine years ago) link
taking away their guns won't cure or prevent their mental sickness.
obviously this case is symptomatic of many failings of society but it's a facile argument to suggest that the harm/severity of this event wouldn't have been reduced by taking rodger's guns away.
― building a desert (art), Friday, 6 June 2014 12:49 (nine years ago) link
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, June 6, 2014 7:41 AM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
also we should focus on all of these things
it's just....metal illness is very complex....so is misogyny/racism/extremism....and while i have little hope we have the political will to do any of them, i think there are some fairly common sense gun control things we could do that could have a massive effect
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 June 2014 13:27 (nine years ago) link
metal illness is very complex
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/MetalHealthQuietRiot.jpg
― Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Friday, 6 June 2014 13:33 (nine years ago) link
haha i think i had metal on the brain
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 June 2014 13:33 (nine years ago) link
It is fun to think about magic solutions where the world is cleared of all evil. But you eventually have to simplify the problem and attack it from a statistical POV.
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 6 June 2014 13:44 (nine years ago) link
I have an idea to simplify the problem, BAN GUNS
― Euler, Friday, 6 June 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link
yes, that is basically what I'm saying!
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 6 June 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link
suggest ban guns
― Brio2, Friday, 6 June 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
this idea is so crazy... it just might work
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 June 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link
http://blogs.northampton.ac.uk/history/files/2014/03/a-team-t-shirt-hannibal-a-plan-comes-together.jpg
― Οὖτις, Friday, June 6, 2014 11:26 AM
just like it did for drugs http://www.lashresort.com/f/public/style_emoticons/default/smug-arms.gif
― am0n, Friday, 6 June 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link
now we just have to convince people that guns can be dangerous
― riot grillz (contenderizer), Friday, 6 June 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link
the crazy thing is I learned of the SPU shooting when I was... at a vigil for victims of another shooting in Seattle
― uppers epilepsy sh@kedown (The Reverend), Friday, 6 June 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
lol am0n
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 June 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
Also in Seattle, a former co-worker is on lockdown at his new job after someone pulled a gun on a couple people next door.
― JoeStork, Friday, 6 June 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
ah, all resolved actually, guy got arrested, the gun was fake.
fake guns > real guns
― sufi john paxson (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 6 June 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link
Especially those chocolate ones
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 6 June 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link
http://gawker.com/video-shows-cops-shootout-with-sovereign-citizen-at-g-1587329275
― Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Saturday, 7 June 2014 03:16 (nine years ago) link
(CNN) -- Two police officers and a third person were killed by two gunmen in Las Vegas on Sunday, according to Las Vegas Metropolitan Police spokeswoman Laura Meltzer.
The attackers first opened fire and killed the officers at about 11:30 a.m. as they were eating lunch, she said.
Witnesses told police that the gunmen said "this is a revolution."
The shooters then crossed a street and went to a Walmart where the third person was killed at the store's entrance, Meltzer said.
The suspects then killed themselves, she said.
Walmart spokeswoman Brooke Buchanan released a statement: "We express our deepest condolences to everyone who have been affected by this senseless act of violence."
The store is closed, and the company is working with investigators, the statement said.
― underrated aerobies I have flung (how's life), Sunday, 8 June 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link
what's this, like one a week now?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 8 June 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link
"btw, buy the affordable guns we sell," he added.
― Clay, Monday, 9 June 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link
walmart should give a 20% discount to anyone shot by a gun sold from their store. 40% discount (limited to one item) for anyone whose loved one is killed by a walmart gun.
― Spectrum, Monday, 9 June 2014 00:16 (nine years ago) link
If only those police officers had been armed
― 龜, Monday, 9 June 2014 00:17 (nine years ago) link
3 in the past 5 days that I've heard about: Moncton on Weds, Seattle after that, now Vegas.
Vegas one is weird. Two shooters, one female.
I've noticed some news outlets have started toning down coverage of the shooters themselves - less mentions of them by name, less images of them... Or at least debating whether they should put some self-imposed limits on how they cover these people. I wonder if it could actually have an effect if an effort was made to intensely de-glamourize them. Somehow I doubt it would make all that much of a difference to paranoid schizophrenic gun nuts but might make for a marginally more sane culture.
― Brio2, Monday, 9 June 2014 01:26 (nine years ago) link
no one shot yet but a guy with an assault rifle is pacing around a roof in LA right now
https://twitter.com/TheRyanParker/status/476071645447086080
― write 500 words of song (sleepingbag), Monday, 9 June 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
ok apparently he just got off the roof like a second ago
― write 500 words of song (sleepingbag), Monday, 9 June 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
now whats he doing
― am0n, Monday, 9 June 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link
(i'm basically just retweeting this la times guy so click that last tweet for info) first it said it looked like he was walking toward police, but now apparently he is barricaded in a house?
@LAPDHQ: All residents in the 11600 blk of Hartsook in North Hollywood, PLEASE stay inside. Armed and Dangerous suspect with rifle.
― write 500 words of song (sleepingbag), Monday, 9 June 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link
Brio2 : "We’ve had 20 years of mass murders, throughout which I have repeatedly told CNN and our other media: If you don’t want to propagate more mass murders, don’t start the stories with sirens blaring, don’t have photographs of the killer, don’t make this 24/7 coverage. Do everything you can not to make the body count the lead story, not to make the killer some kind of anti-hero; do localize this story to the affected community and make it as boring as possible in every other market. Because every time we have intense saturation coverage of a mass murder, we expect to see one or two more within a week."
Dr. Park Dietz, Forensic Psychiatrist
― Sébastien, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 12:29 (nine years ago) link
Shots fired at Oregon high school
http://koin.com/2014/06/10/shots-fired-at-troutdales-reynolds-high-school/
― can't shtup the music (brownie), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link
Fuck this fucking hell-world that America has become.
― how's life, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link
just another typical school dayhttp://i58.tinypic.com/29qkx79.jpg
― write 500 words of song (sleepingbag), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link
Bystander Joseph Robert Wilcox, 31, who was carrying a concealed weapon inside the store, spotted Jerad Miller and told a friend he would confront him, according to authorities. As he neared Jerad, he was shot in the ribs by Amanda and later died, McMahill said.
even Fox had to include this bit. maybe keep it handy for the next time the NRA has an opinion about how to prevent mass shootings
― arid banter (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
Sam Stein ✔ @samsteinhpThere have been now 74 school shootings since Sandy Hook, roughly 9.5 a monthigorvolsky ✔ @igorvolsky74 school shootings since Sandy Hook. 117 total mass shootings in 2014.
There have been now 74 school shootings since Sandy Hook, roughly 9.5 a month
igorvolsky ✔ @igorvolsky
74 school shootings since Sandy Hook.
117 total mass shootings in 2014.
SMELL THE FREEDOM!
― Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
jfc
― polyamanita (sleeve), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
Sam Stein @samsteinhp · 1hCorrection on last tweet, 74 shooting since Sandy Hook is about 4 a month. apologies for the bad math
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
still fucking insane
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link
Hmm, that HS is only about 15 mi east of my apt.
There was also the Clackamas mall shooting in Dec 2012. That was like 10-15 miles from the high school, too.
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
more manifestos, please !
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
take my life, please!
― am0n, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link
yeah, thanks sebastien - the Park Dietz take on this is well illustrated in this Charlie Brooker piece - I was surprised to see a few media outlets finally act on it though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4
― Brio2, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/06/10/map-at-least-74-school-shootings-since-newtown/
Georgia, which passed an expansive pro-gun law this year, has been site of the most incidents on Everytown’s list, with 10 shootings reported.
better marketing can and will solve this problem. "YOUR CHILDREN ARE GOING TO END UP DEAD"
― write 500 words of song (sleepingbag), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link
"come for the peach pie, stay for the indiscriminate mass shootings" --georgia tourist board
― display name changed. (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
I bet their shootings are v discriminatory tbh
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link
It looks like the Vegas couple were white power enthusiasts who aimed to inspire copycat attacks so it makes sense to downplay their coverage.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
At the high school today, two other students just happened to be strapped.
"The confusion that occurred about the number of gunmen at the scene apparently happened because two students were found carrying guns when authorities did a pat-down"
http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2014/06/reynolds_high_shooting_police_1.html#incart_maj-story-1
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Tuesday, 10 June 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link
is this real? so sad if sohttp://www.businessinsider.com/bodyguard-bulletproof-blanket-for-kids-2014-6
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link