I haven't really dug around to read any supposed "backlash" but are people really surprised that she has gone hi-fi / come out of the bedroom after previously participating in huge tours with Skrillex and Diplo, signing to Roc Nation, and for many years now professing a love for a lot of major label pop music? Not only that but she played this song a few weeks ago at the Governor's Ball, cameraphone youtubes of which were posted by pitchfork et al, where the presence of a "drop" was fairly evident?
fwiw i don't think her album will all sound like this. I recall 'Go' being labelled on her Twitter as "different from regular Grimes" before she played it live, and the fact that the song is being given away as a free download at least 6-7 months before an actual album release seems to suggest it will eventually be relegated to bonus track status / a fun little anomaly à la 'Phone Sex'.
― ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Friday, 27 June 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link
It doesn't happen more often with women musicians. You're imagining things.
o ok wow i'm convinced thanx
― dyl, Friday, 27 June 2014 02:03 (nine years ago) link
yeah grimes has written at length about how she is constantly patronised by dudes thinking she doesn't know what she's doing as a producer or that she doesn't know anything about musical equipment
― ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Friday, 27 June 2014 02:30 (nine years ago) link
oh yeah, that's totally an issue. i just think that the backlash against this song is a separate issue and i don't think there is anything inherently sexist about hoping her new album is more similar to her last album than to a skrillex album. it seems outrageously condescending to like, not criticize something you don't like because you think the artist's autonomy is so fragile it must be nurtured and supported at all costs.
on another note, i agree with monotony that i think her new album will sound totally different from both this single and anything she's released in the past. i hope to be surprised by her new album and i expect to be.
― Treeship, Friday, 27 June 2014 02:55 (nine years ago) link
It's gonna be children of men jams crazy
― Sufjan Grafton, Friday, 27 June 2014 03:19 (nine years ago) link
i just think that the backlash against this song is a separate issue
Right. I get that people might be taken aback by a style shift as dramatic as this one, but the way some of the pushback has been phrased is the same as I've seen with other female artists—especially the ones who are active on social media. All these fans flock to them very quickly and then get really possessive and creepy about every move they make. Can I cite examples? Not really. It's just a tone I've picked up by following Marina & The Diamonds and Charli XCX and Betty Who and Sky Ferreira and MØ and whoever else and seeing the fawning messages of support turn when something they don't like happens.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 27 June 2014 03:32 (nine years ago) link
yeah that sounds plausible. people are generally more vicious, abusive, and condescending when they discuss famous women than when they discuss famous men. but would these be the true fans though? i think there is probably also a contingent of (young) people who love grimes so much, and base part of their identities on this fandom, that the idea of her going mainstream feels like, personally threatening. this is how it's always been with cult figures, their fans are possessive.
― Treeship, Friday, 27 June 2014 03:43 (nine years ago) link
Well to be fair, if you're going to make an argument about gender and it's role in the reception of musicians by their fans, you better have more in your arsenal than personal anecdotes and ~creepy feelings. Behind the scenes, yes, women aren't considered to be equals in the music business in 2014. However, that's a separate issue. Brian Wilson was recently taken to task by fans for working with people they deemed not worthy. Does that signal a trend in people trying to diminish the choices and will of people over 65? The original assertion is really reaching for the stars.
― Cousin Slappy, Friday, 27 June 2014 03:59 (nine years ago) link
yeeaaaah I dunno. big fan of Visions but Go is pretty disappointing imo.
― dmr, Friday, 27 June 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link
did video surface of her other 2 new songs performed at governor's ball? I love "go," but she's explicitly said it's different because she wrote it for Rihanna.
― Captain Maximus, Friday, 27 June 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
Well to be fair, if you're going to make an argument about gender and it's role in the reception of musicians by their fans, you better have more in your arsenal than personal anecdotes and ~creepy feelings.
god i love this. if you want to make claims about sexism, better have a DAMN good case, because if those accused of sexism aren't on message boards, trust that a public defender will be appointed.
― da croupier, Friday, 27 June 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link
I answered my own question and found vid of another new song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x96MxA9nXnA
sounds really good. couldn't find the other though
― Captain Maximus, Friday, 27 June 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
Like something from the Nation Records roster.
― panic disorder pixie (Sanpaku), Friday, 27 June 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link
pls list 5 of the 50 million songs that do the handclaps-instead-of-hi-hats thing
― NI, Saturday, 28 June 2014 04:02 (nine years ago) link
normally I am the first to jump on the "it's worse for female musicians" argument but this, I think, is universal. the black keys got it pretty bad this album cycle. arcade fire. the weeknd.
― katherine, Saturday, 28 June 2014 04:11 (nine years ago) link
beyonce - single ladieskanye west - powerbaauer - harlem shakerihanna - birthday cakebig sean - dance (a$$)nicki minaj - stupid hoejuicy j - bandz a make her dancetyga - rack citytravis porter - bring it backsoulja boy - donkazealia banks - jumanjijamie foxx - number onethe weeknd - the fall
not to mention like 90% of new orleans bounce & a ton of other club tracks from the past 20 years
― Captain Maximus, Saturday, 28 June 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/Grimezsz/status/496084377781428225
:/
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 4 August 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link
lol
i like her guest spot on the Bleachers album
― some dude, Monday, 4 August 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link
album cycle shit this fall i hope
― markers, Monday, 4 August 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/Grimezsz/status/496074592201744384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIi57zhDl78
Lmao @ adidas sandals
― 龜, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:08 (nine years ago) link
watched that a couple times last night. i like grimes.
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:18 (nine years ago) link
she's the best
― lars von (Treeship), Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:21 (nine years ago) link
bitches must be dreading a hit these days if they're gonna get driven out to wear outfits in the desert every time
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― birdman junior dad (some dude), Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:38 (nine years ago) link
treesh is on to something
― markers, Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:13 (nine years ago) link
also, late pass, ilx, this shit was out many hours ago
― markers, Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link
you had one job markers
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link
cool swords in this video
― post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:04 (nine years ago) link
It's like someone crossbred the video for Freak on a Leash and Genesis
― Tomás Piñon (Ryan), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
Not really feeling this.
― Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
Has she peaked, already?! Everything about that video/song is regressive.
― Cousin Slappy, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link
too much, too soon, too fast
― sean gramophone, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
is this the track she pitched to Rihanna?
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
Kind of a weird thing to say about an artist already 3 albums into their game?
I guess it makes more sense as "Grimes writing a pop song to pitch to an established pop artist" but it just makes me miss her wilder, more bricolage approach to music.
― Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
i was in the crowd for her set at pfork and this was probably the song that got the biggest audience reaction fwiw
― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link
I could totally see that, and that kinda proves my point about her peaking.
― Cousin Slappy, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
you had one job markers― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:21 AM
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:21 AM
and i did it . . . on facebook!
― markers, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/nhivLyy.gif
― ╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link
feel like she made the "Genesis" video and thought, "I really need to write a song to match this video aesthetic" and so she did it. Good for her.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
is it just my playback experience or is she out of sync with the lyrics the entire time?
― Captain Maximus, Thursday, 28 August 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
it's OK I guess... but very far from her best work. and I don't really hear the input from Blood Diamonds. disappointing.
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 29 August 2014 12:30 (nine years ago) link
scrapped album after reaction to "Go" - starting over
http://pitchfork.com/news/56680-grimes-scraps-new-album-sessions-after-negative-reaction-to-go-starts-again/
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 12 September 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
Hmmmmm. The video she did for Go was pretty embarrassing. Go as a song was not up to her usual standards, production wise. She's messing up having such a big gap between albums and touring so much.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 12 September 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
she scraps an album's worth of stuff every couple of months more or less and the NYT article the quote comes from doesn't even mention anything about scrapping material after or because of the reaction to "go"
― james brooks, Friday, 12 September 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link
and less of the p****fork linking, heres the actual article http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/magazine/why-everyone-should-be-waiting-for-grimess-next-album.html?_r=0
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 12 September 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link
I heard she is a pretty despicable person actually, which shatters the illusions I had of her.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 12 September 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link
you heard, huh?
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 12 September 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
A real Snidely Whiplash type, eh?
― how's life, Friday, 12 September 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
I heard she does car commercials in Japan.
― Greer, Friday, 12 September 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link
I heard that she has sold her turntables and bought guitars.
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 12 September 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link