Lana Del Rey

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Lazy writing

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link

<3 the piece

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link

wtf that article. like, ldr is a white girl who evokes white america by exuding all-consuming whiteness

Lee626, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

Plus musicians invoke sex and death shocker.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link

Wow this is some horseshit. I started to c&p the worst unsupported generalisations and then realised I'd have to do the whole thing. So I'll just c&p this dreadful pun instead: an eternal hard-on of the spotless mind

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

The extended talk about her lips seemed just a bit unnecessary.

Greer, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link

It reads like the kind of shit that only makes sense when you're gorging on theory for the first time as an undergraduate and you think words like phallogocentrism are fun.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

It reads like the kind of shit that only makes sense when you're gorging on theory for the first time as an undergraduate and you think words like phallogocentrism are fun.

i mean, capsule description of the new inquiry

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

Is it all that bad? Pretentious I can handle but this is intellectually rotten from the ground up.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link

this is hilarious because i don't hate this piece but generally dislike their thing

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

How can you not hate that piece? smh

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

idk! it seems a reasonable anatomization of ldr's performance of whiteness as it relates to blackness? a lot of its descriptions of her performance read as right to me, especially the paragraph about awkwardness. the lips paragraph is a reach, and the framing is off (this promotional cycle white dude critics are completely transfixed by ldr, not unconvinced; most of the nuanced critiques of her i've encountered lately are by women)

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

but also i don't know anything about anything so maybe for once generalized faux-intellecualism raptured me away ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link

I know no men "transfixed" by her, only style-blog gals I know.

everybody chives this is nowhere (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link

We recoil from race-based generalisations because they're racist but they're also false. They might become less racist if the people you're generalising about are white but they don't become any less false.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link

Just one example…

In the context of American whiteness’s paranoid relation to what it perceives as the blood taint of blackness (which is also the taint of white guilt), false full lips might be deeply preferable to a real full mouth, even if they are superficially derided.

Unless you're ScarJo, Angelina, Brigitte Bardot, etc etc

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

http://38.media.tumblr.com/22a7424ff5176432c760a811b9f189c5/tumblr_n8rvziHQKA1rq171wo1_500.png

she was also mentioned on the cover of the last issue. WOMEN IN ROCK!!!

maura, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

I know no men "transfixed" by her, only style-blog gals I know.

― everybody chives this is nowhere (Eazy), Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:12 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you might say lots of men find her very "annoying"

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link

ha

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link

Doesn't look like anyone's mentioned her version of "Once Upon A Dream" from Maleficent? I like that one a lot, ymmv.

Both jaunty and authentic (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

Couldn't read past this:

"Del Rey’s whiteness is unstable because it seems somehow faintly disturbed by the knowledge of its formation. Why else the death wish? Why else do her lips circulate independently of her face?"

Which, no matter how many times I read it, is entirely devoid of any meaning.

Unsettled defender (ithappens), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link

my eyes could not focus on anything in that piece

guwop (crüt), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

Fundamental to the article's falseness is her assumption that whiteness in America is riddled with guilt. Even if she thinks it should be, there's no evidence that it is for most white Americans, certainly not enough that it would play into the aesthetic of someone like LDR.

Kind of waiting for Lex to come back and explain why he loves this but maybe his work here is done.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

It's a funnily shitty piece, at least

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link

Um btw American whiteness is riddled bigtime w guilt for a certain amount of white women of various identities on various social media, right or wrong. Felt like that ws who who they were writing for/as

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

Oh yeah sure, for some people it is but the piece is so full of generalisations I can't tell who she thinks she's talking about. Given that LDR shrugs when she's asked a mild question about feminism, I don't imagine she's losing any sleep over the legacy of slavery.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

the image of lips circulating independently of the face reminds me of this

http://youtu.be/bvXKBdkg7MM?t=1m23s

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link

would watch a LDR version of Not I

one way street, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link

https://vine.co/v/MQhgrH9lnT2

everybody chives this is nowhere (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link

\the image of lips circulating independently of the face reminds me of this

my first thought was the billy idol video for Eyes Without a Face

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

"Ultraviolence" sounds like a cover version of "Ecstasy" by JJ No.2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biVETVmwxgg

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 29 August 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link

ha I thought JJ72 were back for a moment

kinder, Saturday, 30 August 2014 17:30 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

Man, listening to "Ultraviolence" late at night, along, is a really desolate experience.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 2 November 2014 03:18 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

Upcoming album is called Honeymoon, will include a cover of "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood" (hmm), will sound less like Ultraviolence and more like Born To Die/Paradise (yesss) and be "noir-ish". Trying out stuff in the studio with Ronson at the moment.

Probably still ages away so I'm going through the catalogue of unreleased stuff to make the wait less hard. Really loving "Prom Song (Gone Wrong)" at the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PABXOO8XbLY

Leonard Pine, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link

I bet her record company are relieved she's going back to that sound.

I'm really excited for a new album so soon. I play Born To Die and Ultraviolence a lot.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link

there def are a lot of unreleased cuts & bonus tracks that i keep in rotation and love dearly

johnny crunch, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link

ive been keyed into 'gods & monsters' and 'summertime sadness' lately both are 10/10

johnny crunch, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link

I'm sure I read somewhere that she's recording Music to Watch Boys to properly for this new album.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link

Sad Girl has become my latest favourite.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link

xp o wow yea that is on the wiki as true -- that song is often called 'driving in cars w/ boys' on demos & is incred

johnny crunch, Friday, 10 April 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link

Gods and Monsters is so, so good I kind of have to watch myself so I don't over-listen to it. It's testament to the songwriting that Jessica Lange's barely-capable cover version is still pretty powerful.

Driving in Cars is fantastic, so that's good news. If she ever wants to properly record Prom Song, Back To The Basics and Queen of the Disaster too it won't hurt my feelings. Come to think of it I'm not a big fan of Ronson but I'd really like to see what he could do with Back To The Basics.

Leonard Pine, Friday, 10 April 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

I saw her at the Shoreline in the Bay ARea last night; first of all the traffic getting there and leaving is a fucking nightmare beyond words now, don't ever go there. I missed Courtney Love except for the last two songs and those I saw over a screen in the bar area; she sounded surprisingly great. As for LDR: she was wonderful live, she's obviously moved well past that nervous stage period that almost doomed her, or maybe she's just more captivating live than she actually seems over video. I could not believe she sold out a place this size, I have not seen this level of slavish fan devotion for a more unlikely person since...the first solo Morrissey tour maybe? There were a lot of fashion fans, to be expected, but there is some other contingent of very devoted young people. I don't know what that says. Either way, I'm glad the show was as good as it was because the 2 hour parking lot traffic jam made me want to decapitate everyone.

akm, Friday, 22 May 2015 04:38 (eight years ago) link

that's so interesting. it's cool she's found a passionate cult fanbase. she really is that kind of artist: seeming to exist in a world totally her own, which is a pretty cool accomplishment for someone who came up in the hypecycle, which is so good at flattening differences. gaga tried so hard to be weird in this environment and failed. lana del rey is weird.

anyway, i'm not really that big of a fan but i like the idea of an artist who can produce something as...specific as "video games" and hope she finally found a niche that appreciates her unironically. the new album was good too.

here is another lana del rey song i enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFjqZpZZ5jI

Treeship, Friday, 22 May 2015 04:53 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

venturing into the field tonight, wish me luck

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link

good luck, report back!

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

i don't know if it's weirder to be surrounded by a couple thousand teens screaming along to "ultraviolence" or to be surrounded by a couple thousands teens listening reverently to a very straight-up leonard cohen cover (non-hallelujah category). but damn do teens love lana (the one next to me screamed "i love you so much!" completely unprompted in the middle of a song).

it's pretty amazing how much ldr has improved as a singer onstage--totally owning the material, able to change up the melodies easily, etc. when her singing is on she's a pleasure to listen to, and she has a weird but effective stage presence--i don't recall seeing someone get as much mileage as she does out of doing nothing. her band was great--any tone dads in attendance should have enjoyed the guitarist, and the level of taste they brought to the music got me thinking about how much of lana's shtick is that everything is presented so tastefully except for her ridiculous lyrics.

born to die still sucks on a number of levels but i've been revisiting ultraviolence and it's very strong 1-6 before hitting a rough patch. as much as i'm loath to give auerbach credit for anything, portishead by way of a guitar store employee wound up being a smart place to take this music.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

I enjoy the fact that much of the guitar heroics on UV come from Kenny Vaughan, who did the same in Lucinda Williams' Car Wheels-era live band.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:36 (eight years ago) link

oh interesting! i wasn't sure how much of it auerbach did himself. there's some nice playing on the record.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPU8XJcA__k

would be a killer album closer imo, will probably wind up as the opener

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link

we've gone full torch

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link


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