indefensible: john gruber

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remember when he went after mike daisey?

― markers, Friday, July 25, 2014 4:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf Mike Daisey is a vacuous troll

Forks I'd Clove to Fu (silby), Saturday, 26 July 2014 16:32 (six years ago) link

i wasn't saying that wasn't deserved, just that he gets on these things from time to time

markers, Saturday, 26 July 2014 16:36 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

did anyone see the incident the other day when he posted something suggesting the iwatches release date and then said he was joking after (i think) the verge and shit picked it up?

markers, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 22:40 (six years ago) link

imagine launching the iphone 6 and the iwatch in the same event? a major revision to the iphone's gotta have its own thing. and the iwatch is a whole new category!

markers, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 22:41 (six years ago) link

yeah that was bonkers, it was all "Gruber confirms iwatch for september" based on a stray joke

gruber presumably has handlers at this point, they probably put him on leak embargo

heck (silby), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 22:42 (six years ago) link

it didn't sound like a joke to me when i read it

markers, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 22:42 (six years ago) link

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/08/14/ford-polite

"Such a lovely piece." --the guy who enjoys calling people he disagrees with jackass

lag∞n, Friday, 15 August 2014 18:16 (six years ago) link

yes but he likes a good martini so

caek, Friday, 15 August 2014 23:49 (six years ago) link

he likes stanley kubrick the rolling stones and the new york yankees

lag∞n, Friday, 15 August 2014 23:52 (six years ago) link

and long, slow, deep, soft, wet, Apple press events that last three days

anonanon, Saturday, 16 August 2014 00:10 (six years ago) link

people who stan that hard for stanley k but never ever mention any other directors make me go hmmm

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 18 August 2014 14:30 (six years ago) link

hes only interested in the very best dont u see

lag∞n, Monday, 18 August 2014 14:33 (six years ago) link

its like the dudes i knew in high school who only listened to movie soundtracks and no other music

socki (s1ocki), Monday, 18 August 2014 14:57 (six years ago) link

lmao that was such a 90s type

lag∞n, Monday, 18 August 2014 15:03 (six years ago) link

"Given these assumptions and the Pythagorean Theorem"

(pythagorean theorem is a wikipedia link)

caek, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:02 (six years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:03 (six years ago) link

Trust the math.

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:08 (six years ago) link

I could be wrong on either or both of these conjectured new iPhones. I derived these figures on my own, and I’ll explain my thought process below. No one who is truly “familiar with the situation” has told me a damn thing about either device. I have heard second- and third-hand stories, though, that lead me to think I’m right.

apple told someone and they told him

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:09 (six years ago) link

no he just figured it out through MATH

socki (s1ocki), Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:09 (six years ago) link

soo much math

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:14 (six years ago) link

imho pieces like this are where gruber usually shines where theres all design usability technical cultural business etc aspects, but this one cldve def been like 1/3 as long as it was

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:16 (six years ago) link

tl;dr on marco's twitter beef with the wirecutter?

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Friday, 29 August 2014 22:47 (six years ago) link

HEADPHONE BEEF

lag∞n, Friday, 29 August 2014 22:48 (six years ago) link

Investigating, Marco apparently inadvertently started something with The Wirecutter people by making a now-edited post calling their process into question, which I think eventually escalated to Marco basically calling them plebs, the Wirecutter people calling him an amateur and then an asshole, and Brian Lam being accused of "race-baiting" by randoms.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Friday, 29 August 2014 22:59 (six years ago) link

lol

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Friday, 29 August 2014 23:08 (six years ago) link

he wrote a mea culpa saying he had been an asshole but kinda blaming it on social media and saying he was gonna try to log off more and smell the flowers and when i searched twitter to try to figure out the genesis of the beef i found millions of tweets complimenting him on his profundity

lag∞n, Saturday, 30 August 2014 00:30 (six years ago) link

pffffffffffffffffffffff

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 31 August 2014 23:24 (six years ago) link

a lot of these guys are really bad writers

like this guy has stopped being a developer to become a writer?!

http://mattgemmell.com/confessions-of-an-ex-developer/

if he were american he'd probably be the kind of guy who'd have a copy of strunk and white on this desk (via gruber). but in spite of (because of) that, i feel like i'm having a stroke when i try to parse his writing.

caek, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 13:51 (six years ago) link

My answer is always the same: not really. The actual truth of the matter, as ever, is more nuanced.

*leans in* say more...

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:02 (six years ago) link

he used to insist on calling himself matt legend gemmell

sktsh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:02 (six years ago) link

My answer is always the same: not really. The actual truth of the matter, as ever, is more nuanced.

My mind still works in a systemic, algorithmic way

no it doesn't

caek, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:03 (six years ago) link

http://www.patreon.com/mattgemmell

he's making $268 american dollars per month!

mh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:04 (six years ago) link

aw

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:11 (six years ago) link

MATT GEMMELL IS CREATING
WORDS WITH MEANING

oh man he's creating his own words now, how artisanal

mh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:14 (six years ago) link

I find myself fashioning sentences, and occasionally paragraphs with some meaning, but would never go so far as to create words.

mh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:17 (six years ago) link

creating words is groapcian exercise imho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:19 (six years ago) link

his favourite band is Dire Straits

stet, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:08 (six years ago) link

i hope you know that because you found his four hour spotify mix 'coding with the legend' like i did

sktsh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:15 (six years ago) link

dire straits is good

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:58 (six years ago) link

http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/why-i-stopped-758

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:10 (six years ago) link

http://blog.codinghorror.com/standard-flavored-markdown

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:04 (six years ago) link

https://twitter.com/markdown/status/507341395137658880

markers, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:26 (six years ago) link

lol grube mad

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:30 (six years ago) link

LOOOOL

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:32 (six years ago) link

i wouldn't expect anything less from him

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:32 (six years ago) link

grubington

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:43 (six years ago) link

His entire "ownership" of what is basically a rough text formatting convention and one perl script has been the pissiest show of fake power for years. iirc people tried to submit a few bug fixes to his perl script and he refused to even update that, let alone do anything markdown-related other than say he was the creator (lol) for a decade.

The fact he's trying to claim ownership or exclusivity over the ability to make _underscores_ turn into italics or w/e is so.... nothing.

mh, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:43 (six years ago) link

its kinda like how he writes all day abt usability and his site is not mobile ready

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:49 (six years ago) link

https://twitter.com/gruber/status/507570887068237824 lool

(OK, I'm hardly one to talk on the benign neglect line but y'know)

stet, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:51 (six years ago) link

its kinda like how he writes all day abt usability and his site is not mobile ready

Yeah but you just know this is also some bullshit principle. iOS Safari is such a magical experience that you don't even need the baby web. See also: apple.com

stet, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:52 (six years ago) link


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