Raw Food - Dud or Dude?

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I just answered my own question, didn't I?

St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Mmm, fugu unprepared! *eats, dies*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

NED! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Kenan (kenan), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Why do the ones with good hair always die so young?

Kenan (kenan), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

not fetishizing it, just commenting that it is delicious. i grew up with these foods, can it be fetishization if it is part of the culture?

H (Heruy), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Stop getting off on yourself, H. Otherwise Momus will have to start wearing kilts.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not down on anyone's culture. I just thought it was funny how the tone of this thread shifted from Ha ha, raw food is dumb to Mmm, raw meat is delicious.

St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe "fetishize" isn't the correct term. I dunno. Doesn't really seem like Marxian fetishization, or Freudian fetishization. People expressing affinities towards certain things probably isn't, strictly speaking, fetishization at all.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Broheems? Dat you?

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Word! What up, stence?

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

nada! Cool to see you back, tho! Shame about the White Sox.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Ugh, tell me about it. Last week was the week from hell.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
Some facts from Jeffrey Steingarten, from an essay piquantly titled "Salad, the Silent Killer":

- Raw spinach contains oxalic acid which forms an insoluble bond with calcium and iron and renders the uncooked green essentially non-nutritious.

- Raw red cabbage, brussels sprouts, and beets contain a chemical that blocks the absorption of vitamin E.

- Phytates in uncooked grains block magnesium, zinc and copper.

- A vitamin E blocker in raw kidney beans, alfalfa, and some peas increases the incidence of liver disease in animals.

- Undercooked lima and other broad beans contain high concentrations of cyanogens - poisons similar to cyanide.

- Raw cabbage, broccoli, brussels sprouts, kale, turnips, rutabagas, cauliflower, mustard seeds, and horseradish all contain goitrogens which cause extreme enlargement of the thyroid among people with little iodine in the diets.

In almost all cases, cooking the food solves the problem.

Jessa and I have been reading a raw food cookbook to each other for fun lately, as comedy. This is easily the most hysterical, least informed, most knee-jerk hippie dumbass food trend EVER.

slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Someone should point out that Cafe Gratitude in SF is basically run by a cult.

mikef-who-mostly-lurks (mfleming), Monday, 9 May 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, I'm sure.

What's really great about the raw food cookbook is the absolute famine of nutritional information or food science in it. Everything is supposed to be good for you because... it's Raw! It removes toxins, dontcha know! Never you mind what "toxins" are. Or how it removes them.

You know, even assuming that these toxins of which so many people so often speak are real and not imagined, the fastest way to get rid of them is to drink a couple of gallons of water. And please, cook your food, you mentalists.

slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

my old boss was friends with j steingarten, i've met him a few times. he weighs, like, 300 lbs. i like his books a lot (i have signed copies) and he's a nice guy but i'm not looking to him for nutrition advice.

his favorite foods are like blood sausage, pate and lobster rolls!

logg'd out, Monday, 9 May 2005 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link

well, that's not really advice, just science. I love the way he throws so much food science into his writing. Gives it kind of this techno-geeky bent along with the sensuous, romantic descriptions of Milky Way bars and ketchup (two foods he's convinced are among the finest ever invented). He is a treat.

slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

my sister's all into raw food. she doesn't eat raw exclusively, but it does make up the majority of her diet. All you folks damning the raw food just don't know what's up. she makes these wierd raw pies and cakes all the time and they're way better than 98% of the desserts i've ever had and afterwords i feel like my dental hygienist went to town on my colon. OMG SO FRESH!!!
that said i'm way too lazy to adopt her diet and prefer throwing a Freschetta in the oven to all the crazy blender exercises she goes through.
OH and CARROT JUICE@!! that shit is good.

Fetchboy (Felcher), Monday, 9 May 2005 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, carrot juice is one of my favorite things. For real. So expensive to buy it, though.

slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

All of my food allergies are to foods in their raw form — cooked, no problem. (Actually, I haven't tested the "cooked is okay" theory with cantaloupe and watermelon.)

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The thought of "cooked" watermelon is like a greeting card from Vomitville.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Fetch how the fuck does your sister eat raw-healthy in New Orleans? I couldn't even pull off vegetarianism here.

This thread is OTM regarding the utter lack of science surrounding the raw food thing.

adam (adam), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not really "cooking," but we made a sorbet out of watermelon a week or so ago. Mmmmmm. Maybe that wouldn't make you sick.

(Also, pineapple ice cream, which was Oh My God Good. A home ice cream maker is a joy forever.)

slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

well, she gives in whenever there's crawfish around and other seafood goodies. she also likes burgers a bunch. but when she eats at home, which is most meals, she usually just makes her raw stuff, which is usually really good, it's just so preparation-heavy that i don't know how she does it.

Fetchboy (Felcher), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I've had seared watermelon and it's quite good, but it's just carmelized a bit on the outside rather than cooked all the way through.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

all I want for 2018 is for a bunch of startup dummies to shit themselves to death

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link

i mean if you’re dumb enough to buy pond water from this asshole just because it’s expensive then you deserve hepatitis tbh

http://static1.uk.businessinsider.com/image/5a4bfd2eec1ade4e7502e79b-538/live-water.png

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link

Richard D. James would never steer me wrong!

how's life, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:40 (six years ago) link

all I want for 2018 is for a bunch of startup dummies to shit themselves to death

― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, January 3, 2018 11:36 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is where i am.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link

sorry to hear that dude, get well soon

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link

https://livespringwater.com/

The earth constantly offers the purest substance on the planet as spring water. We celebrate this ancient life source that humanity flourished from, since the beginning of our existance. We trust it's perfect just the way it is.

Jesus god which shitewit was the copywriter for this idiocy?

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 20:41 (six years ago) link


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