Will Oldham/Palace/Bonnie Prince Billie: S&D

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the song is actually called II-XV not II-IX

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― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I may have given up on the idea that the things I want from music can be found in anything other than that created under the hand and light of Will Oldham. Been getting loads of live things, and each and every time there's an astonishing version of some familiar song. One version of 'You will miss me when I burn' as a ful band just glides as I hoped I could have the first two Mercury Rev do, given time.

― matthew james (matthew james), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link

is the get on jolly ep instrumental?

― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:06 (nineteen years ago) link

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:21 (nineteen years ago) link

i have very much lost track of mr. oldham in the last two years! i think i will pull out days in the wake before i go to bed tonight.

― jess, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:27 (nineteen years ago) link

how is master and everyone? does it continue in the vein of ease down the road??

― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Master and Everyone is violently boring.

― C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

col1n did you like ease down the road?

― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

something about oldham really reminds of reggae in a way.

― jess, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:30 (nineteen years ago) link

the devotional tunes? the scruffy beard? what?

― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked Ease Down The Road a lot actually. Master and Everyone is kind-of along the same lines, but it just sounds like a mediocre fake Oldham (Fauxldham? *rimshot*). Have you heard the best-of?

― C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:34 (nineteen years ago) link

no, musically. something about the tempo maybe?

― jess, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link

"madeline mary" off of i see a darkness is pretty much reggae.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link

oldham guests on the forthcoming sage francis elpee.

i'm not kidding.

― alindall, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link

i quite like master and everyone.
its more somber than ease down the road i would say, and more sparse, but not as sparse as the palace stuff

― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I completely adore I See A Darkness and find Master And Everyone pleasant but just OK.

What should I buy next?

a) Ease On Down The Road
b) The Lost Blues comp
c) Arise, Therefore
d) Not these ones you nut
d) Bugger it, get them all

BTW, I no longer have the indie guilt referred to up thread. I drowned it in the bath tub last week, most satisfying.

― piers (piers), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 03:54 (nineteen years ago) link

PLUS the "one with the birds"/"take however long you want" single.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 03:57 (nineteen years ago) link

or dude, just read up thread, this has been covered.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 03:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Cool, OK - yep just read the entire thread. Ummmmm, thinking...

― piers (piers), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I absolutely love Master & Everyone, almost as much as I See A Darkness. It's very Pink Moon - a very heavy man whispering his mind in your ear. I've found it engaging with every listen.

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 04:33 (nineteen years ago) link

d) + the Hope EP

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link

will is a very heavy man?

― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Will Oldham because on at least 4 different occasions, I've played him in the background while talking to female friends of mine who generally are not into music at all, and they are completely captivated by it. Until I show 'em the beard, of course.

― Huey (Huey), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, he also played Naive Melody, Life During Wartime, Psycho Killer and Blind, for fuck's sake - Blind!

― Huey (Huey), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Um, I believe I was supposed to post that in a Talking Heads thread. Still, it would be good if the 'Prince' gave some 'Heads a seeing to.

― Huey (Huey), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I miss my lost copy of 'days in the wake.'

― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 4 September 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

No love for Joya here? I like it.

― Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Monday, 20 September 2004 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Just bought and listening to Arise, Therefore....hmmmm, dark yeah, interesting. Next will be something more melodic, but have to let this sink in first. Think I'll go with either Ease On Down The Road or Viva Last Blues or Lost Blues comp as mentioned upthread.

― piers (piers), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 00:14 (nineteen years ago) link

i remember joya being a disappointment, but it's been so long since i've listened to it....

piers are you looking for a oldham cd to buy next? i'd recommend "i see a darkness" and then probably one of the two "lost blues" comps and then "days in the wake". "master and everyone" is better than "ease down the road," i think, though both are good. i actually find latterday oldham more interesting than earlier oldham even if the records haven't been perfect.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Howdy amateur!!!st - yeah i guess i am! I do have I See A Darkness and Master And Everyone, and while I like the latter, I love the former.

Arise, Therefore is good so far, but only first listen. Based on what you said I think I'd go with the two lost blues comps and maybe days in the wake. Jess also posted a pretty good S&D way upthread including the first Palace album. He has a fun, if bewildering, back catalog to explore eh?

― piers (piers), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 00:28 (nineteen years ago) link

to second what Douglas said waaay upthread, there was a time when Palace singles were EVENTS. from the rustic art/photos to how each side complemented the other, to what the new name was for Will ("Little Willy Bulgakov" "Pushkin" etc.), the whole package was mysterious, satisfying to impressionable ears, and they would disappear instantly. at least thru "Every Mother's Son." don't think Lost Blues quite replicates that heady feeling.

― BbetaA, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link

i think ease on down the road is far superior to master and everyone. there doesnt seem to be much meat in either production or lyrics of master like there is to ease on down the road and especially i see a darkness.

― tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

did i talk about "just to see my holly home" upthread? i'm in love w/that song

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 01:04 (nineteen years ago) link

you talked about it many times.

i have this theory in which i see a darkness is real late at night and ease on down the road is the morning after.

― tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link

you talked about it many times.

well, that makes me feel like a boring old professor, thanks ("yes, mr. amateurist, we've this one already").

that's not a very evolved theory.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 01:09 (nineteen years ago) link

arise therefore possesses the epitome of w'oldham's essence. david grubbs' piano work makes the album a bold sumpreme.

― rsssgnld;s, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link

best BPB - Master and Everyone
best Palace Brothers/ Music - Viva Last Blues (though I haven't heard Days in the Wake in forever)

I'm having trouble with BPB sings Greatest Palace Muscic.

― Will (will), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 01:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I also love Master and Everyone although I don't know that I would rate it higher than Darkness or Road. All 3 are great.

― Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link

well theres more to it, but i dont quite have to energy to expound. that seems to be the case of most of my "theories" or "ideas."

― tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i feel you

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...

I had been trying to get a copy of the Bonnie/Brightblack split E.P. for ages. I finally jumped the S0les33k train and found it's all over there -- but everyone seems to have the same damaged copy - all of the Bonnie songs have this digital glitch sound running through them. I briefly thought that maybe it was intentional, but at several points it stutters or cuts off Oldham's notes, and just generally sounds like a CD Burner misfunction.

I am finding this completely frustrating, since I am obsessed with his "Brokedown Palace" cover, and the other songs are similarly blowing my mind.

Does anyone have an actual copy of this e.p.? Is it available anywhere? Goddamn it, it's amazing.

― Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I've got a thing for the "Western Music" ep. Four songs, half shimmering chamber music with big band at Albini's, half recorded solo on a dictaphone/what-have-you in the kitchen or wherevers. Great as the last thing to play in the evening.

― LSTD (answer) (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"Ease Down The Road" is one of my favorite songs (though the album of that name is a mixed bag): "A fireman her husband was/and so to give him duty/I duly tried to light a fire/upon his rightful booty"

The Oldham/Tweaker song from that single is surprisingly good (Happy Child). Otherwise, I think Viva Last Blues is probably his strongest release. I also like most of the stuff on the Palace Music disc and the cover of "In My Mind"

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Hurting mostly OTM; that song is great, though I find that the album never gets the credit it deserves.

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I definitely prefer Oldham with a band to without. I do like the first album though (There is No One...)

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, and I guess it's not on this thread, but on some Oldham thread I complain about how I See A Darkness is inferior to both the album directly before it and the one directly after it. Seriously. That album is probably my least played of Oldham's, and while it contains some fine songs (the title track, "Black" and "Madeline Mary" most notable), I don't think it holds up overall. It baffles me that so many people consider it his best work.

xpost. The first album is great!

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

His singles >>>>> his albums.

He's playing a secret show here near SF in a week and a half.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

He's playing in L.A. with Matt Sweeney at McCabe's guitar shop in Santa Monica, playing the Superwolf stuff. I just got my tickets.

So does anyone have the Brightblack split? I am desperate for those tracks.

― Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, that's this Sunday night, incidentally

― Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

"secret"

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

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