indefensible: john gruber

soo much math

imho pieces like this are where gruber usually shines where theres all design usability technical cultural business etc aspects, but this one cldve def been like 1/3 as long as it was

tl;dr on marco's twitter beef with the wirecutter?

HEADPHONE BEEF

Investigating, Marco apparently inadvertently started something with The Wirecutter people by making a now-edited post calling their process into question, which I think eventually escalated to Marco basically calling them plebs, the Wirecutter people calling him an amateur and then an asshole, and Brian Lam being accused of "race-baiting" by randoms.

lol

he wrote a mea culpa saying he had been an asshole but kinda blaming it on social media and saying he was gonna try to log off more and smell the flowers and when i searched twitter to try to figure out the genesis of the beef i found millions of tweets complimenting him on his profundity

pffffffffffffffffffffff

a lot of these guys are really bad writers

like this guy has stopped being a developer to become a writer?!

http://mattgemmell.com/confessions-of-an-ex-developer/

if he were american he'd probably be the kind of guy who'd have a copy of strunk and white on this desk (via gruber). but in spite of (because of) that, i feel like i'm having a stroke when i try to parse his writing.

My answer is always the same: not really. The actual truth of the matter, as ever, is more nuanced.

*leans in* say more...

he used to insist on calling himself matt legend gemmell

My answer is always the same: not really. The actual truth of the matter, as ever, is more nuanced.

My mind still works in a systemic, algorithmic way

no it doesn't

http://www.patreon.com/mattgemmell

he's making $268 american dollars per month!

aw

MATT GEMMELL IS CREATING
WORDS WITH MEANING

oh man he's creating his own words now, how artisanal

I find myself fashioning sentences, and occasionally paragraphs with some meaning, but would never go so far as to create words.

creating words is groapcian exercise imho

his favourite band is Dire Straits

i hope you know that because you found his four hour spotify mix 'coding with the legend' like i did

dire straits is good

http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/why-i-stopped-758

http://blog.codinghorror.com/standard-flavored-markdown

https://twitter.com/markdown/status/507341395137658880

lol grube mad

LOOOOL

i wouldn't expect anything less from him

grubington

His entire "ownership" of what is basically a rough text formatting convention and one perl script has been the pissiest show of fake power for years. iirc people tried to submit a few bug fixes to his perl script and he refused to even update that, let alone do anything markdown-related other than say he was the creator (lol) for a decade.

The fact he's trying to claim ownership or exclusivity over the ability to make _underscores_ turn into italics or w/e is so.... nothing.

its kinda like how he writes all day abt usability and his site is not mobile ready

https://twitter.com/gruber/status/507570887068237824 lool

(OK, I'm hardly one to talk on the benign neglect line but y'know)

its kinda like how he writes all day abt usability and his site is not mobile ready

Yeah but you just know this is also some bullshit principle. iOS Safari is such a magical experience that you don't even need the baby web. See also: apple.com

ha yeah i love to pinch just to read still not big enough text its good

markdown is very good but grube believes himself an artist when hes really a craftsman

he is such a ding dong

what jackass

ive got a heaping cup of claim chowder to server this jackass i swear

server this jackass

damn straight

Yeah the official Markdown is a Perl script implemented with regexes and tons of undefined edge cases, so thanks for the idea Grubes but the Pandoc guy is the true Markdown king now.

also no thanks for the idea. fuck markup. the mac did this better in 1984. ⌘-B >>>>>> "* *"

Is that a rejected JW user name

^_^

The @horse_markdown parody Twitter account

man I don't ordinarily play this card but of Jeff Atwood and John Gruber, one of those people is actually a professional software developer

http://blog.codinghorror.com/standard-markdown-is-now-common-markdown

grubers a baby

Marco Arment @marcoarment

Whether Gruber filed a trademark with the USPTO or not has no relevance on whether it’s a dick move to commandeer the name.

it is a commendable dick move imo

John Gruber was also very upset, and I think rightfully so, that the word Markdown was not capitalized throughout the spec.

Atwood is a schmuck too. I love that the specification doesn't include a grammar. WTF? You're making the exact same mistake.