Rock Albums People Who Don't Love Rock Like

i don't like rock music and the only albums itt that i like are:

ASHLEE SIMPSON - I AM ME

― prolego, Sunday, September 7, 2014 7:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Actually everything in the Hole lineage - Ashlee, Paramore, Sky

― prolego, Sunday, September 7, 2014 7:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also, yeah yeah yeahs

I don't know what kind of music Ashlee Simpson makes but you like PJ Harvey lex, so you like rock music to some extents.

I'm a "rocker", but I know lots of people who don't like rock - people besides "squares", I mean. I think it's probably common in cities?Also a lot of people I've encountered who like lounge and orchestral reject most rock unless it is stuff like The Moody Blues. Also alt / electronic types who only like Eno?

I don't know what kind of music Ashlee Simpson makes

― monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Monday, September 8, 2014 11:52 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're always going on about how you want recommendations right? ashlee simpson's discography, in chronological order, go.

Dave Matthews Band - Under the Table and Dreaming

Oh that reminds me, I remember some Wu-Tang interview - RZA maybe? - from the 1990s where he said he was enjoying Blues Traveler's Four.

Well, he probably doesn't count as a guy who doesn't like rock, but Blues Traveler's Four regardless.

Maybe some Big Head Todd and the Monsters or something. I mean, even if you didn't like rock back in 94, we all went to H.O.R.D.E.

trying to decide which Dead album belongs here, but it's probably more like a shoebox full of cassette tapes

What a bizarre kind of question. Because what kind of "non-rock fans" are we talking about?

Westerners who "only listen to Classical music" and don't like anything modern, rock or pop or whatever?
People who live in other countries with entire pop cultures of their own?
Kids who listen to pop, but not rock?
People who listen to hip-hop, or country, or dance, or literally any of the billion other genres which are not rock?

"non rock fans" is just such a weird conceit because it posits rock so centrally in this bizarro-ILM inversion.

I'm confused. Deeply. By this thread.

― Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otfm

well, it is a sort of parody thread of the other thread which didn't make a lot of sense either so...

What would the post-2000 answer to this question be?
American Idiot?

Like, people who love non-rock and like rock don't like, love rock, what rock albums those people like.

^ ilm pre-covers the next Blur single

Dave Matthews Band

Cat Empire

Hole
Queen
Black Sabbath
The Who
The Rolling Stones

and that's all.

"yeah, Radiohead are sort of the highbrow listener's rock band of choice"

the definition of the word "highbrow" has changed over the years...

It's totally relative. Depends entirely on the "listeners" demographic you're talking about.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/kingkonggodzilla/0469d218-6c41-476a-b9e0-0d8e7bc47e41_zpsa01e34c0.jpg

i just think of teens and college kids when i think of radiohead listeners. but, yeah, they can be highbrow too, i guess.

more high than brow

i just think of teens and college kids when i think of radiohead listeners. but, yeah, they can be highbrow too, i guess.

― scott seward, Monday, September 8, 2014 1:06 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Than yeah, if you compiled all of the music teens and college kids listen to I'd bet Radiohead is relatively on the highbrow end of that particular spectrum, proportionately.

teens 20 years ago can be middle aged high brow now

A tenure-track music theorist I know, a rising star in the field, is currently working on a book on Radiohead. His article "Kid Algebra: Radiohead's Euclidean and Maximally Even Rhythms" is forthcoming in Perspectives in New Music.

He talks in maths.

can we spend some time on this thread talking about how Chester Bennington is now singing with Stone Temple Pilots or is that too much of a digression

thread's got nothing else going on tbf

Radiohead seem to crop up in 'classical music is not just for squares' type pieces in broadsheets where people make the case for contemporary classical music, I don't know to what extent they are rock music that contemporary classical stans like or if they want some of Radiohead's rock 'n' roll glamour to rub off on them (Radiohead possessing rock 'n' roll glamour seems odd idea, but I get the impression people writing these articles think they do?)

i actually sold radiohead CDs to an old classical guy! he bought ligeti and some other classical and radiohead. maybe they heard that steve reich was a fan.

too bad steve reich's radiohead tribute is so limp

maybe it isn't a tribute

That'll be the radiohead xp

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the only people i know that turn their noses up at rock are classical ppl. i think they make exceptions for more NPR-ish stuff and karaoke "guilty pleasures."

they pooh-pooh all the "hipster" music i'm into but they get super jazzed up for disney soundtracks.

glad to learn the term "maximally even rhythms" to describe a thing i have been thinking about

it's weird -- i know music fans that are into really out-there experimental stuff, and even they ride hard for zz top and early van halen. the jazz guys like rock, the folk guys like rock (newport was a long time ago). it's only the classical people that are all "eww" about it -- unless it's some new amsterdam crossover act that the new york times approves of, and those acts are never guitar-centric.

so everyone is by default a rock fan..? reminds me of that old Momus blog post about how literally everyone in America wears jeans

(Guy I mentioned is a total rock fan, to be clear.)

(But appreciates Radiohead in a highbrow sort of way or something?)

"by default" is where critics of rockism come in -- combatting the idea that rock is the default setting and everything else orbits around it (mixed metaphor, sorry). there is no default.

I've known a couple of classical guys who came close to fitting get bent's description. They both liked the Beatles. One also liked Queen and Radiohead. The other disliked most other rock but liked AC divas like Celine Dion.

whenever people call me about selling their records and they say they have lots of classical i'm always happy to have them bring stuff in. they often have good prog, weird avant/electronic, and cool world music records mixed in. (especially if they were buying in the late 60's and 70's. boomer classical fans had the biggest ears. 50's and early 60's classical fans were pretty trad in my experience.)

(boomers in general though have become the most trad music fans since the fans of the four lads and the ames brothers...in other words, their parents...)

There are also people heavy into ambient and ethereal and maybe some soundtracks, but no rock. Clearly the most fruitful genre is electronic - people who won't listen to anything with guitars or drums ( unless they are "ethnic" drums). Ethereal fans I don't get - it's a genre that surely has rock influences.

I've always suspected hardcore ambient/ethereal fans suffer from some sort of nervous disorders

my experience with ethereal/ambient is that that sort of music was very popular among the fisting community in the '90s.

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xp of course yes, I was specifically referring to the ""vast gulf"" between Wolfmother and any other song I hear on classic rock radio

Try as I might, I still can't help but feel that at this stage the 'All rock music is essentially the same' opinion is as much of a challop as 'all jazz music is the same' or 'all dance music is the same' or 'all Chinese people look the same'. It reminds me of when my dad used to tell me that Mortal Kombat and Streetfighter II were essentially the same game

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i think a lot of the time the reason bands like Wolfmother suck is because they produce a recycled version of a 40-year-old idea without improving on it in any way whatsoever.

That is completely irrelevant if you don't think the 40-year old idea was any good in the first place though.

fine you don't have to like Led Zep, of course, but that's where the line in the sand comes from, and it does boil down to historical context and intent as with all art and music.

"The sound of rock music makes me feel like I want to see civilization crumble and fail" is what I'm saying.

Isn't that what it sounds like to good rockers too?