New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

ha i use bookmarks thats not a notification its a feed

i fuckin love the ipod

To be fair though, I didn't really get the point of the ipad initially either (why not just buy a small laptop which can do more things?), so I'm not sure why I'm commenting here, since I'm obviously not very smart when it comes to predicting the success of this stuff.

OTM. After railing about what an obvious disaster it'd be for the company, the iPad's wild success totally shut my mouth. You could put that little white apple on an iToaster and it'd be the best selling toaster of all time.

tho tbh i think this is really the thing fitness nuts love this stuff but it hasnt found much success helping people become fitness nuts

― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:24 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this is pretty true

I should check out the non-scientist/non-IT people and see if they are into this stuff. Maybe some in HR, but their building has the fitness center (aka "the gym") in the basement.

Think what annoyed me most was how they boasted they had 'consulted with horology experts' or w/e that was

Like I feel like part of the ingredient to Apple's success was to reinvent the product market they were entering?

Or that's the MBA business school 'case study' narrative of the iPod, iPhone, and iPad

Here though instead of 'unthinking' the idea of the watch

They seemed very consciously trying to capture a slice of the existing luxury watch market

Which is why we have a bullshit "Edition" version with 18K gold that's marketed as 'twice as hard as ordinary gold' as if Apple had a patent on it

you think gold was cool before? our gold is better.

apple def surrendering to business school thinking w this one rip

The other problem is that most of what the watch does is not exclusive to the watch and is better handled by your phone (i.e. notifications for getting emails, texts, viewing and reading and responding to those said things)

The only functions exclusive to the watch are the health functions, and sending doodles of penises to other WATCH users, and maybe Pay because it'd be more convenient than taking your phone out?

i just want a cheapo watch (<$25) to track my heart rate

Timing on this also seems very odd

They're gonna miss this year's holiday season

Gonna come out 'early 2015'

Coulda easily held this off for one more year

Done an announcement a year from today

Ready to ship by Black Friday

Sold a bunch to early adopters

Now instead people are gonna have at least half a year to ruminate and think

I don't want a stupid fucking watch even if it's Apple

I wanted a watch but I wanted it to be sweeter than this

like some wrap around screen that looked like maybe it shoots lasers

apple is the people who buy apple now rip, loved the early stuff

i just want a cheapo watch (<$25) to track my heart rate

― Nhex, Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:39 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i wish my running watch tracked my pulse instead of having to wear the cumbersome heart rate monitor across my chest which ive never done, maybe the new ones do now idk

I think the unknown variable is how much of a status symbol / fashion symbol having one of these will be

I find that stuff that tells me calories, distance etc. just demotivates me -- it's like "Oh cool, I've done exactly 400 calories gonna stop now" instead of just pushing myself until I feel like I worked hard.

well maybe siri can yell at you

I actually kinda want an app that basically does that

you need more gamification in your life, Hurting

I think the unknown variable is how much of a status symbol / fashion symbol having one of these will be

― iatee, Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:47 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Definitely this -- google glass is an unmitigated disaster in this regard so far, whereas the watch is pretty nice looking but maybe still SLIGHTLY dorky, kind of not sure until I see more IRL.

otm, siri should call you a pussy if you don't increase your workout by 10% weekly

I think the unknown variable is how much of a status symbol / fashion symbol having one of these will be

― iatee, Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:47 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imho the status aspect of the iphone at least has always been overrated, like it exists but it wouldnt have much sway if they didnt work so good

I find that stuff that tells me calories, distance etc. just demotivates me -- it's like "Oh cool, I've done exactly 400 calories gonna stop now" instead of just pushing myself until I feel like I worked hard.

― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:48 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah its also hella fake

feel like the status aspect was pretty big in the early era, when they didn't actually work so good

They didn't work so good but they were so much better than everything else at the time iirc

(my own 4-5 year old 160 GB classic, which is by far the longest-lived of the iPods I've owned, is starting to get a little wonky)

Yeah the 160 GB was when they finally built the thing right IMO. Mine was a total workhorse. The 40 GB, whatever generation that was, was a half-lung weakling. I had to return like 3 of those. Shame to kill this thing when it's robust and doing what it oughta.

feel like the status aspect was pretty big in the early era, when they didn't actually work so good

― iatee, Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:51 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They didn't work so good but they were so much better than everything else at the time iirc

― 龜, Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:51 AM (42 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, also worth noting they didnt sell very many at the begining

if a decent # of early adopting rich ppls decide they kinda like paying for something w/ their apple watch, maybe there's this hustle for stores to sign up, the payments network develops into something actually kinda useful

Contactless payment is incredibly convenient if done right

i think the idea is they will use the same stations at the cards with chips that are finally coming to america soon do

so apple doesnt really have to worry abt the infurstructure

of course instead of buying the $400 watch u cld just take yr wallet out and wave it in from of the sensor too

Or your phone

that takes way too much effort I am not a fitness freak

ideally I won't even have to move my arm

easier to use yr wallet tho as u dont have to do the confirmation step

This was fun for about three weeks.

WDYSCLL? (search for: SleepCycle)

Figure calorie counting goes right up there.

I think they should make a version of the watch armed with a single, tiny tranq dart.

Apple's fashion segment is "affordable luxury" and the WATCH is a piece of jewelry.

seen people who are pretty slick at just touching their pockets which contain their card keys to the sensor that lets them into their work

i'm outside the target demo for this (imo misguided) WATCH, but watches should be cool and stylish, basically jewelry with some functionality. fitness watches should be as cheap, light, durable, and unprecious as possible. not having a chest strap would be cool tho. fwiw i guess i think the watch looks cool and stylish.

When google glass was first getting hype I had a vague idea for a cultural crit essay about "the age of self-surveillance"

I think the watch is going to mystify the hxc nerd segment for a while b/c it doesn't "do enough"

the watch just looks like a watch to me, if I saw someone wearing it on the subway I wouldn't notice

I mean I would now, but I wouldn't two days ago

as designed imo

Apple's fashion segment is "affordable luxury" and the WATCH is a piece of jewelry.

― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:00 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is true but imo what communicates that luxury is how they make extremely functional things and if this watch isnt good for much its not going to sell cause as jewelry its no good, the apple brand isnt going to be effective if theyre not actually embodying it

I was wondering if they're going to have famous watchmakers design "faces" for it for extra $

the watch just looks like a watch to me, if I saw someone wearing it on the subway I wouldn't notice

― iatee, Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i suspect watch enthusiasts wld say otherwise