Amazon Kindle (ebook thingy)

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Pretty sure only like 1% of Kindle owners have more than a GB of books on their Kindles...

schwantz, Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link

yeah i can't imagine ever filling it up to remotely those levels

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link

You missed an important word there .. Legally.

xelab, Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

I've got a memory card in my Nook because I used up the main memory almost immediately... maybe I read too many picture books.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

8GB doesn't seem like too much to ask for a "premium" model like that Kindle Voyage... still think it looks really good overall.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link

hey, that looks pretty great, although I'd want to test out the page turn buttons first. also, as a general complaint about e-readers, WTF is up with this 2GB and 4GB of storage shit? memory is dirt cheap these days, 8GB should be the absolute floor. I get not wanting the hassle of a card slot, but come on.

― erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:15 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is a big deal IMO, both Kindle and Nook are trending toward smaller storage and deleting card slots. I mean yeah, I need the extra storage for shit I downloaded illegally. But do you wanna sell me a device or not?

(I love my Nook Glowlight in all respects except for diminished storage)

Gar Tooth (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link

(I love my Nook Glowlight in all respects except for diminished storage)

I am guessing you are talking about the Nook Glow, because the Glowlight has an expansion slot. Which is the main reason most of my e-readers will be purchased 2nd hand on ebay for the next decade at least.

xelab, Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

problem with the Simple Touch Glow is the physical buttons wear out and break after a while

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link

How long did that take to occur? I have had mine since April and used it quite heavily without problems.

xelab, Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

about a year on my first one... it still turns the page, but about 1/2 the time it'll get stuck and start rapidly paging you forward until you hit the back button, very annoying.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 September 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link

I have noticed the battery cell diminishes rapidly after 50%, but not the turning problem before. If it shits out on me by christmas I will still be happy with the sixty quid investment it was.

xelab, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

idk if you could fill 4gb without setting out to do so for the sheer hell of it

original kindle still going strong here, the most perfect technology ive ever owned

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

Otm about the battery life rapidly dwindling after 50 percent. I love mine tho.

shower cretin (brownie), Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link

xp
original kindle still going strong here, the most perfect technology ive ever owned

Yeah and now they are trying to engineer it into something worse that makes them more money:(

For all it's faults I adore my Nook as well.

xelab, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

xelab yes I meant the Glow, not the Glowlight.

I also own a Nook HD which I use for comics and graphic novels - and there is an area where you can use up 8 GB in no time.

My wife inherited my Simple Touch which is a fucking runner and a half.

Gar Tooth (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link

Would you recommend the Nook HD JL?

xelab, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link

Are Kindles 32-bit? There's a speed trick if you have a 4 GB cap on a 32-bit system.

alanbatman (abanana), Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link

you'd think even 2GB would last a while but I have a number of eBooks that are inexplicably 20-30MB in size... they don't even have a lot of illustrations of anything.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link

The Nook HD screen is really beautiful, things like the New Yorker or old comic books look absolutely gorgeous on it. I got the Glow because I just don't feel natural reading b&w text on that kind of screen, though.

I feel like BN will discontinue/stop supporting it soon, but you can hack it into a regular Android tablet (I mean it is an Android tablet but you can do some trickery to strip out the Nook aspects of it-- this is what I'll do if BN abandons it).

I've happily played stuff like color graphical flavors of nethack on it too. Etc etc.

Gar Tooth (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

you'd think even 2GB would last a while but I have a number of eBooks that are inexplicably 20-30MB in size... they don't even have a lot of illustrations of anything.

^this

Code Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link

> I have a number of eBooks that are inexplicably 20-30MB in size...

sounds like they are actual scans of books rather than ocr'd copies. some of the free google books do this.

that said, i downloaded a scan of a 300 page book the other day and it was only 3MB!

koogs, Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link

the file i have of the brian eno biography is like 60 MB

Gar Tooth (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 18 September 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

Filled up my 2G pretty quickly. Like to have stuff on there so I can search it. If the Amazon Overlords allowed us to search the content we owned online I guess I could live with it. Such a thing does not exist now, does it?

Code Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 September 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link

nah, they're not page scans, they're just (I assume) really badly created (or converted) .epub or .mobi files!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 19 September 2014 01:52 (nine years ago) link

You can unzip epub files - they are just zipped HTML. Would be interesting to find out what exactly is wrong with them. (DRM will stop you reading the individual files but you'll be able to see the components and their sizes)

koogs, Friday, 19 September 2014 02:20 (nine years ago) link

wouldn't be surprised to see a 25MB image file for the book cover, to be honest.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 19 September 2014 02:26 (nine years ago) link

so frustrating how i can't tinker with these new az3 kindle files or even view on my computer without d/ling the bloated kindle app. has anyone found a way round the drm yet?

NI, Friday, 19 September 2014 05:02 (nine years ago) link

After a few tweaks Calibre is your drm breaking friend.

xelab, Friday, 19 September 2014 07:56 (nine years ago) link

i was surprised at how well calibre + a plugin converted some amazon purchases to epubs for my kobo. i hadn't even realised it had worked but there they were all converted and looking pristine.

(couldn't do it under linux though, had to install it on windows partition. using wine is possible but you have to be careful with software versions and i didn't have wine installed and don't have the bandwidth to download it)

koogs, Friday, 19 September 2014 08:01 (nine years ago) link

ah great, what plugin?

NI, Thursday, 25 September 2014 04:28 (nine years ago) link

i did have a hunt for all this stuff a few months back and found it impossible, hopefully this is a recent update/release

NI, Thursday, 25 September 2014 04:29 (nine years ago) link

My nook didn't survive a drop so I recently got a kobo glo which I am going through a love phase with. It has a squarer more bookish feel than a nook, the magnetic open/close sleep mode is nice and it has a button for glow mode which has a much more diffuse and warmer/brighter light quality and it doesn't lose your bookmarks. Not sure if I should have gone for a paperwhite instead at a similar price but am more than happy with what I have and fuck amazon/converting all my ebooks/PDFs into mobis. I have changed my mind about the page buttons, after using this for a couple of weeks now I am quite happy to live without them. The only criticisms I can think of is that a hundred quid is a bit pricey and it was slow as fuck to get started, it seemed to be updating forever but pretty sweet reader after that.

xelab, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:27 (nine years ago) link

That's good to know in the event nook goes under. Does it take micro sd?

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link

Yeah there is a micro sd slot on the left side which doesn't have the same little plug as the nook, but I presume that won't be a problem with a protective case covering it.

xelab, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link

And what's its onboard storage?

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

1.32 GB

xelab, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0GhZiKCIAABnIh.jpg

the best part of this is that it was an online poll. no one was accosted on the street. the 2% IDKs volunteered that information.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 12:57 (nine years ago) link

maybe they weren't sure if they should count the Kindle app on their iphones

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 12:58 (nine years ago) link

Plenty of less technically adept people who own a reader but don't know what it's called, probably, or saw the question and didn't know what it was.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

anyone else had this problem? seen a book i'd like, cries in the desert by john gatt, as recommended over on s&d: True Crime! books but it isn't available as an ebook in the uk. i've seen it on amazon.com as an ebook but can't purchase it as i'm uk based. is there anything i can do? could i get an american to set up an account and have it mailed to my kindle email even though it's registered in the uk? or would i need to get someone to buy it and crack the drm so i can use it?

NI, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link

That's a common problem in Australia, too. I used to be able to get stuff from other e-bookshops, since if they took Paypal they didn't check your country of origin, but now they've gone out of business. It's possible Google Play might have it for the UK.

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Monday, 2 March 2015 00:46 (nine years ago) link

You will be able to get the treebook 2nd hand for x pence + couple of quid delivery on amazon, won't glow in the dark but sounds like a less convoluted solution.

xelab, Monday, 2 March 2015 06:08 (nine years ago) link

thanks james, i'll try that.

much prefer reading on kindle to actual paper, to the extent that i probably wouldn't get round to it if i bought it. but even that needs importing from america, mustn't have ever been published over here

NI, Monday, 2 March 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link

the reverse happens too, like Graham Greene e-books are available in the UK but not the US, due to some rights issue.

lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 2 March 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link

pretty often the only option is piracy, if the format works for your reader

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 2 March 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link

last resort is to get someone in america to buy it for me and go through the impossible process of trying to crack the drm, anything to avoid the terrible burden of having to turn actual pages by hand

NI, Monday, 2 March 2015 22:22 (nine years ago) link

"the impossible process of trying to crack the drm"

It is a piece of piss with Calibre. I am thick as pigshit and managed to break drm whilst drunk on two bottles of wine one night.

"pretty often the only option is piracy"

That is about 95% of my library right now >:)

xelab, Monday, 2 March 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link

Amazon's web site does make it tedious as hell to get the ebook files once you purchase them. As xelab says, removing the DRM with Calibre is not difficult. Setting up the plugin to do so is a little convoluted, but you only have to do it once.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 2 March 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link

The only hard bit was finding where the azw3 file was dumped iirc.

xelab, Monday, 2 March 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link

that was my main problem when i tried a year or so ago, setting up the plugin. totally stumped me. probably a bad place to ask but could you point to an idiot's guide?

NI, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 02:57 (nine years ago) link


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