IS IT WASHAPOLL? - ILM ARTIST POLL #57 - AUTECHRE - RESULTS thread

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this is the legit & unassailable sound of lentic catachresis occurring

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

IMO it's one of the three or four strongest on the album, but yeah, it's got a very Ur-Confield sense from it. The frenzied end is where it makes its money.

cichleee suite (Leee), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

also my #9

the melodies in the first two minutes are absolutely sensational, some of ae's best songwriting. the rest...is the end of history

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link

As much as I have grokked later Ae after initially disliking it, I have never really enjoyed Lentic Catachresis. The pure wall of sound, lack of overt textural/sonic progression, and missing beat has made this always a non-starter for me. Can someone give me a compelling reason to like this track or possibly explain how they got into it?

octobeard, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link

Corc more devisive than I'd have expected! I like it a lot.

Lentic is OK, but I prefer CapIV when it comes to the this particular style

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link

only my 4th favourite from confield too! could have put it higher tbtffl

missing beat???? omg the beat is there, and it's sick. and the finale has this unstinting hihat sound holding it together right until the end

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/dxA6oEm.jpg

34T. d-sho qub - 83 points | 5 votes

cichleee suite (Leee), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link

i'm impressed by the high number of votes this far down the poll.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link

how many polls did you get, Leee?

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link

idk what that even is

Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link

Yes! Glad something from Oversteps made it. And it's a huge tune! Didn't expect 5 votes for this but mine was one of them.

Non-Stop Hongrotic Cabaret (dog latin), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link

^^^ #7 on my list. d-sho qub is an absolute latter Ae masterpiece. The ending with the synthesized vocal choir is eerie as fuck, and made me realize these guys still have some fantastic all timer tracks left in them.

octobeard, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link

how many polls did you get, Leee?

20 ballots, jed_.

cichleee suite (Leee), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link

Right now, Oversteps is the ae album I don't quite 'get' ... too many shimmery generative-sounding tracks I think.

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link

yeah its too glossy and not edited enough

Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link

ta.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link

Lentic is my second fave off confield, not that it made my ballot. Love the alien processed voices at the start but not sure there's enough of interest in the second half.

Lentic is OK, but I prefer CapIV when it comes to the this particular style

Yeah capiv definitely similar and just a bit stronger.

If a job's worth doing it's worth doing, Horatio (ledge), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:54 (nine years ago) link

Elvis is all sho qub.

If a job's worth doing it's worth doing, Horatio (ledge), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link

Love Oversteps. Felt like a little revisit to the LP5 sound but with updated production.

Non-Stop Hongrotic Cabaret (dog latin), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link

Okay not a missing beat per se. It's a classic example of turning the beat into texture, morphing a major element into a completely different one, and that I enjoy. The thing that kills this track for me is the pure lack of progression after the first 2 minutes. All the other tracks on Confield are these pristine organic structures that slowly and often unpredictably evolve into new forms over the duration of their performance. This metamorphasis is much more subdued on the last 6-7 minutes of Lentic, and I get bored with the inert minimalism coupled with the lack of overt rhythm outside of the hihat. There is an interesting and buried melody but it's not enough for me to derive any sort of appreciation for the track. When I first started enjoying Confield, I thought of this track as a concept song expressing the "ghost in the machine", where Ae setup the parameters for the initial beat and it just collapsed in on itself and created this whole movement they didn't initially predict and felt that the idea of putting a song on that was an "emergent" tune was pretty compelling (not sure if that's how it was indeed composed). In any case... it's the most boring tune on Confield for me. Something I never listen to when I play it, in fact.

octobeard, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 22:57 (nine years ago) link

I enjoy a lot of Oversteps and Move of Ten but feel both have utter duds, too. I have a "custom" album called "Move Over Ten Steps" that combines my favorites of the two. If I could have voted for that custom album, it might have made #3 or #4 in my album ballot.

octobeard, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:01 (nine years ago) link

was just listening to oversteps for like 15+ minutes and it was actively angering me. reminded me most of all of fucking Rain In England, haha

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

see on see is beautiful but formally otiose like a lot of oversteps

Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:13 (nine years ago) link

voted for ilanders though

Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:13 (nine years ago) link

IMO the best parts of Confield are the transitions between tracks.

cichleee suite (Leee), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:17 (nine years ago) link

the transition between track II and III of gantz graf is exquisite

Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:19 (nine years ago) link

pro radii into augmatic disport is nxtlvl

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:28 (nine years ago) link

nakh otm as well tho, my god

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link

Oversteps rules, it's like the rest of their boring Supercollider 00s wankfests but it has tunes

brimstead, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 00:11 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/9WnjRkJ.jpg

32T. Bronchusevenmx - 84 points | 3 votes

cichleee suite (Leee), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 00:43 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/PuDrGyN.jpg

32T. spl9 - 84 points | 4 votes

cichleee suite (Leee), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link

Can someone give me a compelling reason to like this track or possibly explain how they got into it?

love lentic/capIV. it's similar to what I get out of harsh digital noise - the sounds are sharp and vivid but the the gradual build is disorienting and anxiety-inducing and it all kinda just flattens my brain out. the net effect ends up being sorta relaxing.

original bgm, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 00:57 (nine years ago) link

"Bronchusevenmx" is the sound of water dripping from stalactites over the eons and thus is the ideal brooding music for moody would-be goths.

cichleee suite (Leee), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:01 (nine years ago) link

Listened to spl9 and was enjoying it, but now cloudline is playing and I'm enjoying that way more, wonder if it's going to appear here

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link

voted for spl9
its not the most amazing track but its a lot of fun

Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link

last two graphics very apposite

Contrappunto dialettico alla mente (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link

31. Second Bad Vilbel - 87 points | 4 votes

http://i.imgur.com/mabehct.jpg

cichleee suite (Leee), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:15 (nine years ago) link

The part where this track comes back in but slower is immense

A solid little house from the p-funk boys (I am using your worlds), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link

Bronchusevenmx was my number 2, i'm a goth!

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 02:35 (nine years ago) link

goths don't use exclamation marks.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 02:48 (nine years ago) link

Second Bad Vilbel has worn on me but it's kinda iconic and not just because Radiohead ripped it off.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:06 (nine years ago) link

As someone who got into Autechre at the time of Chiastic Slide, worked my way backwards through everything before that, and listened to everything through Confield before hitting a wall and barely listening to them for the last decade, I've been really enjoying this poll - I didn't feel remotely qualified to vote, but I'm listening to everything here and wondering why the hell I haven't been listening to them since about 2003.

Great images, too!

I enjoy a lot of Oversteps and Move of Ten but feel both have utter duds, too. I have a "custom" album called "Move Over Ten Steps" that combines my favorites of the two. If I could have voted for that custom album, it might have made #3 or #4 in my album ballot.

― octobeard, Wednesday, October 1, 2014 12:01 AM

Would be interested in the tracklist for this (having failed to really get into any album since Confield).

toby, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 05:03 (nine years ago) link

Sure...

Move Over Ten Steps

01. r ess
02. rew(1)
03. Treale
04. pt2ph8
05. see on see
06. no border
07. d-sho qub
08. iris was a pupil
09. os veix3
10. yim0
11. st epreo
12. krYlon
13. Yuop

Total time: 1:04:41

It's an even more ambient record with this flow, and some of the transitions work really well naturally - d-sho qub going into iris was a pupil for instance. Obviously a subjective list, but these tracks to me make a really cohesive record, with a beginning, middle and end, sonically consistent and thematic... to the point where it's up there with Untilted and Chiastic Slide for having a strikingly unique sonic fingerprint - even more so than before. Some tracks I enjoy individually I kept off intentionally in order to maintain what I felt was a better "album".

octobeard, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 07:30 (nine years ago) link

Glad to see spl9 made it, btw. I had a tough time keeping that and Flep from Exai off my ballot.

octobeard, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 07:33 (nine years ago) link

voted for spl9
its not the most amazing track but its a lot of fun

half right. could've been my number one (was my number three), seems to be for me the perfect sweet spot between abrasive noise and dancefloor smash. it never stands still, every minute sees a switch in rhythm or texture. and again - again! a classic fade out, the beat stutters into oblivion over a hollow, deathless breath of air. they really are masters of the fade.

If a job's worth doing it's worth doing, Horatio (ledge), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 08:05 (nine years ago) link

spl9 is HARDCORE. I would risk slipping it into a straight techno set perhaps.

Non-Stop Hongrotic Cabaret (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 08:42 (nine years ago) link

Thanks octobeard - giving this a go right now, and I think it could be a good path for me into more recent Autechre - I'm really enjoying it, in fact.

toby, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 09:05 (nine years ago) link

skipping through oversteps again d sho-qub definitely a highlight but a couple of the more ambient ones stand out too, os veix3 and yuop. Curiously more than half of the tracks (and quite a few on move of ten as well) end abruptly but with about 10 seconds of ghostly reverb floating out over the end, giving an amazing sense of space.

If a job's worth doing it's worth doing, Horatio (ledge), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 09:15 (nine years ago) link

redfall is the oversteps standout for me

cheeseburger, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 12:31 (nine years ago) link

the chords in dial. from gantaz graf, which seem to ascend forever, are an example of a shepard-risset tone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_tone

not sure how dial missed my ballot, dj stingray working it into a detroit techno set at the autechre atp is unforgettable

cheeseburger, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 12:48 (nine years ago) link


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