Shit sorry, meant two Confield, outside chance of 3
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 11:42 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04flJC_4pv8
just got three minutes into this
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 11:43 (nine years ago) link
is that rn a fusion of chexy with some organic compound
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link
dn even
Still some more early EP tracks to come I'm sure.
― If a job's worth doing it's worth doing, Horatio (ledge), Thursday, 2 October 2014 11:47 (nine years ago) link
xposts to nakh - haha that guy. i'll be looking forward to watching that over lunch.
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 2 October 2014 11:52 (nine years ago) link
I work on the phones and quite often I come across some on-hold music that sounds remarkably like something off of Incunabula.
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 2 October 2014 11:54 (nine years ago) link
My picks from Garbage, Amber, Anvil Vapre, LP5 and Confield, as well as one from Incunabula have not placed yet. I haven't ignored Uviol.
― Noel Emits, Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link
Listening to some of those upthread. Leterel is v pretty but feels like a completely different band to the Autechre I love. The outro is way the best bit, when it starts fucking around with the prettiness
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link
Drane 2 builds nicely, but it's not got its namesake's moves. Feels a bit like an extended Mogwai electronics exercise or something ;)
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:46 (nine years ago) link
Goes without saying but Confield is definitely the watershed album for fans isn't it? Parallels with Kid A.
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:46 (nine years ago) link
I do like isolated bits from the early material heaps. Nakh turned me onto the aforementioned Drane (not 2) and it was crazy intense, gave me the similar mind-expanding buzz to the later stuff (while obviously being much simpler in composition). Looking forward to getting into more Chiastic Slide stuff as well.
Also, apparently the Gantz Graf EP was from the same period as LP5 and Chiastic, but was held back because they didn't know what the hell to do with it - soon all their music was at that level, though
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:49 (nine years ago) link
But yeah, I think that most voters' ballots will reveal a strong preference for either earlier or later stuff
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:50 (nine years ago) link
(earlier + oversteps/exai, I could add ;))
Wonder how many Quaristice songs got any votes at all...
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:51 (nine years ago) link
I think comparing pre-Confield Autechre with post-Confield Autechre is a bit futile, imago. There's a definite change in what they were doing. It's hard to compare an album like LP5 with later Autechre because for one something like Drane2 was pretty-much unimaginable when it came out, and secondly I don't believe LP5 is trying for the same synaesthesiac effect as those later records. Something like 6IE CR makes me imagine THINGS - quite solid images, landscapes, caverns, icicles, geometric shapes or what have you, but LP5 - it's like listening to pure code. For the most part it's music for the sake of music and that's why I like it so much because I really can't think of anything else that does this. Arguably all music is supposed to be evocative of a setting or emotion or a time whereas LP5 doesn't really do this much at all.
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:54 (nine years ago) link
lp5 segues nicely into confield, has the same glossy software sound and pellucidity deployed with different musical languages
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:58 (nine years ago) link
xpost: I voted for Perlence. I've really warmed to Quaristice, more as a collection rather than specific tracks, voted it 7th on my LPs/EPs ballot ...
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link
well yeah it works much better as a suite
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:15 (nine years ago) link
I also voted for perlence. Perlence is my cell phone's ring tone.
― Larminard Darzingargle (silverfish), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:16 (nine years ago) link
lp5 segues nicely into confield, has the same glossy software sound and pellucidity deployed with different musical languages― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, October 2, 2014 1:58 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, October 2, 2014 1:58 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That's true to an extent - there's not a lot of difference on the surface, but I feel as though Confield's tunes harbour a sense of narrative that (especially LP5 and to an extent EP7) don't. It's hard for me to describe the way I feel towards the two albums, but if you take VI Scose Poise, it draws from a similar sine-wavey palate as Drane2. However the former song has always evoked, for me, some sort of glittering underground cave replete with rose-tinted crystal formations. Cfern represents the surface atmosphere of whatever planet these caves belong to - all bumpy rocks and barren landscapes. Uviol is a night marshland with amphibious fauna around it. I get these highly-subjective 'visuals', if you will, from a lot of latter-Autechre whereas that mid-period is more about 'phwoar that chord sequence makes me feel emotions I didn't know I had' or 'how do they do that speed-up/slow-down thing on Fold4,Wrap5?' or 'Did he just say 'Is it washable?'. In essence LP5-era Ae is 'pure music', with very very few moments actually making me visualise anything more tangible than a light pattern or geometric shape. This might invite accusations of LP5 being a clinical record or lacking in emotional heft, but for me it's the opposite. The dearth of visual stimuli (the CD packaging is 100% charcoal grey with no artwork at all) amplifies those moments of emotion for me - like suddenly breaking down infront of an algorithm, a literal eureka moment.
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:20 (nine years ago) link
xp Was tempted to vote for Altichyre off Quaristice (versions) - gorgeous fat synth chord progressions a la Leterel, untainted by any beats, but it's too slight for serious consideration.
― If a job's worth doing it's worth doing, Horatio (ledge), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:21 (nine years ago) link
I'm guilty of xposting ITT
Yeah there are no real standouts on Quaristice, it's just a bunch of great, relatively short, relatively lighthearted tracks strung together and it made a nice change after the onslaught of Untilted for me.
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link
The one from the quaristice era that I voted for very high in my list is "The Plc ccc" off of Quaristice.Quadrange.ep.ae. The way the song just completely opens up a couple of minutes in is an amazing trick and is something that I can't really figure out. It's one of those things that autechre have done that I've never heard anywhere else.
I don't know how many people actually listened to quaristice era eps (I myself only got to them a couple of years after they were released), but I think they are actually better than the album. The reworked versions of the quaristice tracks give them a lot more depth and intensity.
― Larminard Darzingargle (silverfish), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:33 (nine years ago) link
Maybe I'm looking for something that isn't there but I always found "Is it washable?" to be hilarious because the music at that point sounds like a brick thrown in a washing machine.
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:45 (nine years ago) link
VI Scose Poise is a sleeper favourite of mine, regret not voting for it now.
Yeah, me too, I regret not voting for this, something from "Envane", and maybe "Drane2".
I will be surprised if one or two more "Incunabula" tracks don't place. Maybe "Basscadet" or "444"? I voted for "Basscadet" and "Eggshell".
This is a really nice description. It took me a while to appreciate that "Confield" wasn't as big a departure from their earlier work as I thought at the time. The melody in "VI Scose Poise" could have appeared on "LP5", but the complicated interplay between the melody and the rhythms (and the subtleties of the rhythms) are nothing like what they'd done before.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link
by the way, where is the list of upcoming polls??
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link
Maybe I'm looking for something that isn't there but I always found "Is it washable?" to be hilarious because the music at that point sounds like a brick thrown in a washing machine.― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Thursday, October 2, 2014 2:45 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Thursday, October 2, 2014 2:45 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's such a great WTF LOL blink-and-you-miss-it moment on this otherwise ostensibly austere record. Actually UnderBOAC is one of the few that does make me think visuals, but I'll get round to that once it appears, if it does appear.
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link
― If a job's worth doing it's worth doing, Horatio (ledge), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:21 (34 minutes ago)
this is a stupid post, exquisite miniatures are quite as worthy as anything else
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:00 (nine years ago) link
voted for both altibzz and altichyre
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:01 (nine years ago) link
exquisite miniatures are quite as worthy as anything else
i respectfully disagree.
― If a job's worth doing it's worth doing, Horatio (ledge), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link
architectonic integrity is as valid a principle whatever the duration
single ideas can approach the asymptote of formal perfection in a way complexity queens and seriousness mavens with their love of the distended, the baroque and the top-heavy seldom do
one of my favourite pieces by franz liszt is an album leaf that is about 50 seconds long
pink flag is a hundred times more valuable than anything in 'progressive rock'
&c
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link
― Larminard Darzingargle (silverfish), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:33 (36 minutes ago)
there was probably some sort of via media to be found between the fragments of quaristice and the freeform nature of the eps
autechre post 2008 seem to be less about formally integrated releases than file dumps of material that you can sift through
the highpoints are still very high though and thats what matters most
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link
LJ bait
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link
of course it's easier to be formally perfect in a smaller space. less room = less room for error.
even if i find, say altichyre to be the most emotionally moving harmonic progression in their catalogue, given the choice i'd still pick a piece that had more ideas. but this is only a matter of opinion, no more or less than pink flag v prog rock.
― If a job's worth doing it's worth doing, Horatio (ledge), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I can imagine a future collection being released on USB stick - possibly with updates sent via the web, like a piece of software.
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link
― If a job's worth doing it's worth doing, Horatio (ledge), Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:20
very slow golf clap for u
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:22 (nine years ago) link
this is only a matter of opinion, no more or less than pink flag v prog rock.
― If a job's worth doing it's worth doing, Horatio (ledge), Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:20 (1 minute ago)
*searches for xanax on deep web*
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link
frog, here is the most recent full list: ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc
― it's taco science, but it works like taco magic (WilliamC), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, October 2, 2014 2:19 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah I p much agree
wire are one of the greatest bands in the history of music
pink flag isn't my preference but if nakh had said 'send' i'd possibly agree w/o qualification (aside from claiming that vdgg weren't rly prog qua prog, haha)
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link
theres an inverse relation between concision and the sort of dialectical.....complexity....that extended durations can achieve, there is no 90 second grosse fuge, but the notion that 'slightness' is inimical to or incompatible with greatness is fatuous
'it's easier to be formally perfect in a smaller space' is exactly an argument for the virtues of concision rather than an expression of its limitations
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link
same reason i had gantz graf #1 over any of their albums
Gantz Graf is overrated.
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:44 (nine years ago) link
It's true that with a band like Boards of Canada, the shorter tracks are as important as the longer tracks, but I don't think this is necessarily true in Ae's case.
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:45 (nine years ago) link
outside of Quaristice and "Rettic AC", what shorter tracks
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link
The best thing on GG is itself pretty maximal, tbf ;) & one of the reasons for its greatness is that every idea it has is straight fucking inspired. the rest is clinical execution, synthesis, hyperliteracy
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
xp ^^ - they're not known for them, so using up a precious vote on an ornamental piece of fluff, no matter how lovely, might seem like a waste. I entirely understand the logic.
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link
GG itself packs an incredible number of ideas into 4 minutes. Length-based arguments of concision fail. It's about synthesis of ideas
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link
You do know they made it by attaching a contact mic to a mortar and pestle and just spent 4+ mins grinding up mustard seeds, don't you?
― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
pls. trenchancy and autechre separate
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link
dog latin you have never entirely understood anything and this is why i like you
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link