thread of getting sw0le

feel like theres a cult around protein that is prob not as soundly grounded in science as its proponents wld have u think

When I thought I wanted to be vegan I read some books and was convinced protein was a bunch of hype and i could get enough from broccoli. Now that I decided I should gain a little muscle, idk

yeah i am probably good at like 120g. i like to eat enough fat too. when i didn't eat meat or fat i felt hungry and dead all the time and was like "idk why i'm always hungry, oh well." lol.

meat is so good and satiating

ive been trying to lose some weight recently and eating very little and its weird i havent really felt any drop off in energy in my workouts, maybe eating is not necessary

i gained 40 lbs in 4 months on a veg diet. you don't need meat.

wow damn

two words: whole milk

first of all, congrats on reaching your fitness goals. secondly though, is it weird inhabiting a body that's 40 lbs heavier than you were used to? i can't even imagine what i would look like with 40 more pounds of muscle.

From what I remember, it's 1g per kilo, not pound. And even that's high.

I've been on a high protein plus low carb diet, and it wasn't fun. Protein is very hard on your pancreas. My body felt really weird, as did my liver or whatever that slight pain was on my sides.

So, yes, you don't need an incredible amount of protein probably, unless you're a pro lifter.

How much do you weight and how tall are you?

I feel my best when I'm doing 3 parts carbs, 2 parts protein, and 1 part fat. But sometimes I indulge and up the fatty stuff. If you're thin now, I wouldn't worry too much about what you're eating, honestly.

Many lifters drink beer, but it's just how your body feels. Listen to it and try to have a little fun. When I first started lifting my mistake was to be extremely strict, and I ended up losing a lot of weight but gaining a lot of strength. Personally, I look back and think another approach would've been better, especially as I was already thin.

two words: whole milk

― clouds, Friday, October 3, 2014 2:35 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm 5'10" 160. i want to stay at a similar weight, maybe even lighter, but have more lean muscle, especially a firmer midsection.

today i did like, 1 hour of high intensity cardio at this class. i feel really good. i was going to do cardio and that lifting program i mentioned upthread, not because i need to make insane gains but because i do think i am a bit weaker than i'd want to be and the austere simplicity of squats, deadlift, overhead press, barbell rows seems appealing.

none of my girlfriends have ever let me carry them up stairs when they were tired because they thought i'd drop them. for some reason this bothers me.

there's always this

http://stronglifts.com/gomad-milk-squats-gallon-gain-weight/

seems a little nuts to give it that much worry tho

― goole, Thursday, October 2, 2014 1:30 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol i just read the GOMAD (gallon of milk a day) manifesto shit is cray

last part of my last post was weird. basically i want to come across as someone who is stronger without being bigger necessarily. i think it would be a healthier way to be in the long run.

Just punch the first guy you see in a bar and do that for a couple of weeks

i mean, i already get in bar fights all the time. i thought you guys knew that?

You must be getting your ass kicked

beat a guy up then drink ten shots of whisky it has lots of protien

i mean alcohol

actually, i find that when i am really drunk i don't care as much about my body image. maybe i should just aim to stay in that "zone" all the time

That's normal. Muscle takes longer to build, so just don't overindulge in carbs, unless you want to beef up a bit. Remember size doesn't necessarily mean it's all muscle.

It's a personal choice, but honestly, I wouldn't eat more than 100g of protein if I were you.

This is anecdotal (and probably broscience, so take it with a grain of salt), but I'm 5'10" and when I was 145 I was eating 100 to 110g of protein. I did it for 3 to 4 months and my body felt effing weird during the latter half. I noticed towards the end I was plateauing and if I didn't keep the intensity or if I missed some days, it's like my body didn't know what to do with so much protein so it all kind of just stayed in my body and it made me feel really strange. I don't know how to describe it but it's like I could feel what was going on on my sides (liver? I never got it checked out). And when I sat driving in my car for long periods (~1hr), my sides felt sensitive.

Anyway, maybe this is just me, because the cheap protein shakes never did it for me, as 3 months or so into it, I'd get hardcore palpitations (I was drinking EAS vanilla protein shake--don't get the chocolate one because of the caffeine, btw).

Most of all, it's all an experiment on your body. See what works for you. Firmer midsection comes with time (a lot of it).

i think if i could just reduce my bf a little bit i would be much happier with my midsection. i hope it doesn't take too much time...

u shd get a body fat scale its fun to track yr weight/fat imho helps keep u focused

i have this one and i recommended it http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FRUEXSI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

today i did like, 1 hour of high intensity cardio at this class. i feel really good. i was going to do cardio and that lifting program i mentioned upthread, not because i need to make insane gains but because i do think i am a bit weaker than i'd want to be and the austere simplicity of squats, deadlift, overhead press, barbell rows seems appealing.

none of my girlfriends have ever let me carry them up stairs when they were tired because they thought i'd drop them. for some reason this bothers me.

― Treeship, Friday, October 3, 2014 2:45 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Doing cardio increases your metabolism quickly so you burn through calories faster. I slowed down to 2 times a week and that still wasn't enough because I was trying to lift heavy. For you, I would say just do HIIT twice a week, for maybe 30 minutes each? But experiment. I know it sounds counter-productive, but if you feel you're gaining too much weight, then just add another cardio day (yoga is good for strengthening your core, and if you're feeling manly, try pilates) and see how it goes. Don't run so much, though. Maybe just once a week, if that.

feel like everyone wants treesh to bulk up but he keeps saying he just want to be fit

Haha. Sounds like he is already fit, though.

If you want to stay your size and gain strength, do yoga. Seriously. Or look up ballet dancer exercises, i'm totally not shitting you. They work on gaining strength and lifting heavy while doing exercises (stretches/yoga) to keep their muscles long and lean. But that's a whole other level of crazy. One that I considered myself, though.

lol i just read the GOMAD (gallon of milk a day) manifesto shit is cray

― lag∞n, Thursday, October 2, 2014 8:46 PM (18 minutes ago)

not tmi but after a day of GOMAD my shit was actually cray

lmao gross

who's shit isn't cray after a shit ton of milk and eggs, tho?

idk hav never tested this hypothesis dont really f w milk other than halfnhalf in my coffee

i do eat eggs tho

what abt just drinking heavy cream tho i bet that wld work super good

i enjoy fine yogurt

xp

too much fat.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/51/2

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/69/2

for double the amount of milk, you get way less fat and more protein

whoops, more fat, less protein

1 cup greek yogo has like 20g protein

dang

i luv mah yogourt

im not as enamored w strained yogurt as everyone else in the world, i like my yogurt regular mostly, used to make it, so much better fesh my lord, always have some going, just roll it over to the next batch, then i got off the yogurt for a while, but now im back on, but just store bought so far

don't you feel like it does wonders for regulating your digestive system, though?

it's like that activia commercial is really true

idk cant say ive noticed a difference

i am very into the whole concept of the human microbiome tho

its like one of my #1 interests

madonna has opinions on this matter. she hired this lady to analyse every single bacteria in her stomach and she's a big proponent of it.

i believe it, as well

theyre crazy powerful those lil guys in there

i just ate some yogurt

Does anyone have any opinions on/experience with intermittent fasting? I mean, does it actually do anything, or is it just another broscience fad? I kind of like the convenience of not having to bother with breakfast, and haven't really noticed any drop in energy doing all of my exercise fasted, but it seems like this has the potential to be a huge mistake. For what it's worth I'm trying to lose as much weight as possible (in a healthy way, I mean, not just starving myself) without worrying about gaining muscle for the time being- partly to make rock climbing and bodyweight workouts easier, but mostly because the last 18 months or so of concentrating mostly on weight training over cardio I've bulked up quite a bit more than is usual for me and it just feels weird and awkward.

back to protein for a minute
i think moving up protein intake is about protein feeding muscle growth but also changing the ratio of macronutrients so protein makes up more of the pie
because protein / protein+fat isn't going to be stored as fat and will improve body composition