I Love Mass Transit

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there's a serperate suburban Chicago mass transit system, ie Metra

oops (Oops), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:21 (twenty years ago) link

map to the SEPTA system (train system for philadelphia and suburbs):

SEPTA

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:23 (twenty years ago) link

People always say how you NEED a car in order to live in the (Chicago) suburbs, and you most likely do if you also work in the suburbs, but my friend commutes to downtown every day. He only has to walk to the end of his block (about 100 feet) to meet the bus.

oops (Oops), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

well yes oops, but it is not really good for wide use, its really only good for people commuting to work and such. they are practically useless if you want to be downtown any time past midnight.

todd swiss (eliti), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

i'm also something of a mass transit/subway freak.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:26 (twenty years ago) link

haha i didn't even consider the possiblility that it has uses other than commuting to work. it's so engrained in my head that that is what's it's there for, and nothing else.

oops (Oops), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:27 (twenty years ago) link

well, a couple of my friends choose to take the train to concerts (i dont know why) and they have had to leave early on some occasions. i just drive because its easier and i will pay for parking if i need to.

todd swiss (eliti), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:31 (twenty years ago) link

Taxi?

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:33 (twenty years ago) link

Given the huge size of metro Chicago, taking a taxi would almost always be ridiculously expensive. Unless maybe if you lived in, say, Oak Park, but then you'd could just take the CTA.

oops (Oops), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:36 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, if i wanted to take a taxi from naperville to downtown, i dont see it being cheaper than 30 dollars each way... i am 30 miles west of the lake.

todd swiss (eliti), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:37 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry. Tunnel Vision. I lived "East of Ashland". Everything was 5 minutes away. I forget about the rest of the city.

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:40 (twenty years ago) link

And you know what I love? That connection from SFO -- AT LONG LAST.

when I was in college I was drooling for the approval to San Jose. They got it, slashed it, and I moved away anyway so I dont care anymore.

Thats what San Jose gets for pretending they dont need SF. San Jose sucks.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

I received this book for Christmas. It is lovely.

(my usual pub quiz specialist subject, when I can't think of a better one, is "The London Underground")

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 5 March 2004 10:10 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, if i wanted to take a taxi from naperville to downtown, i dont see it being cheaper than 30 dollars each way... i am 30 miles west of the lake.

It'd be much more than that. Taking a taxi from O'Hare to my old place near Division Street (not even downtown) was like $29.

hstencil, Friday, 5 March 2004 21:54 (twenty years ago) link

I love the new L.A. MTA bus paint scheme!
http://www.mta.net/images/subheads_f01.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 5 March 2004 21:56 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
a list of noteworthy car-free areas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_carfree_places

freshest thing I have read today.

S. (Sébastien Chikara), Sunday, 6 August 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Was reading about Gulangyu from that list just now

http://www.carfree.com/ has some interesting stuff about this also. Will be interesting to see if/how this kind of thinking becomes more prevalent when car usage has to reduce (not carfree places themselves but when newer towns/suburbs being to be denser again encouraging non-car journeys to save money)

Back to Metros - has anyone used Strasbourgs?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mytravelphotos/sets/72157602252579748/detail/

Kondratieff, Monday, 26 May 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Sadly I dind't actually use the tram in Strasbourg but it looked pretty amazing.

ENBB, Monday, 26 May 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Happy birthday, Laurel!!!

Sara R-C, Monday, 26 May 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

lol, god I REALLY must be out of it, as that is so obviously on the wrong thread. Apologies to mass transit lovers.

(I would be one, too, but sadly, Minnesota really has mass failings in this area).

Sara R-C, Monday, 26 May 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

happy birthday laurel!

s1ocki, Monday, 26 May 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Which smaller US cities have good mass transit or light rail systems in your view?

Kondratieff, Friday, 6 June 2008 12:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I have no idea but it seems an opportunity to remind everyone that Seattle's tram system is called the SLUT.

Ed, Friday, 6 June 2008 13:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Singapores appears to be called the SMRT which is also pretty hilarious.

Trayce, Friday, 6 June 2008 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link

no-brainer that US cities have all but phased out phrase "rapid transit"

Dr Morbius, Friday, 6 June 2008 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Cleveland still calls their rail system "Rapid Transit." Don't see it going away any time soon.

Pancakes Hackman, Friday, 6 June 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Which smaller US cities have good mass transit or light rail systems in your view?

Portland is pretty stellar.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 June 2008 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

well, if yr syatem has Rapid in the name it'd be too transparent to change it.

Also NYC subway announcements using term "customers" stinks -- reminds you yer paying for this dreck. Prefer "suckers."

Dr Morbius, Friday, 6 June 2008 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, Cleveland's train system is part of the RTA (rapid transit authority). I take the train almost everyday and it's magical- ideally there should be at least two more lines to serve the city but obviously the US has other priorities.

brownie, Friday, 6 June 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

RTA is actually "Regional Transit Authority," but yah, otherwise RTA is pretty good all things considered. ("Voted Best Transit System in the Country!") I take the Green Line in in the mornings and love it.

Pancakes Hackman, Friday, 6 June 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Er yeah, you're right it's Regional. haha, I get on at Shaker Square every morning.

brownie, Friday, 6 June 2008 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

haha, I'm the guy asleep with sunglasses on and earbuds in if you're on the train that stops there around 7:25.

Pancakes Hackman, Friday, 6 June 2008 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

And thus a friendship was born.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 June 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Fuck that. Don't wake me.

Pancakes Hackman, Friday, 6 June 2008 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm a 7:45 type of guy. Your sleep is safe.

brownie, Friday, 6 June 2008 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Mainly asking because interested in smaller cities (or at least more compact cities) that have good transit systems that have good coverage of residential sections as well as central districts - ie which smaller cities are best equipped for a future less car-reliant - or with commutes more easily done without cars. Also more modern towns or cities that don't follow low density models.

I have used Portland's briefly but only in the center. How well does it cover the rest of the city in your view (I shall have a look at that myself now too)

Kondratieff, Friday, 6 June 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

http://faculty.washington.edu/jbs/itrans/japanese_dualmode.htm

Any thoughts on DMVs?

Kondratieff, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Mpls/St. Paul has light rail now and they're expanding but the line doesn't reach my mom's first-tier suburb or Uptown yet, which is...wrong. Up until the early '60s my mom says there were trams that left from 2 blocks from my house, either headed downtown or to Lake Minnetonka. She loved them and lamented their passing when in London being jealous of tubetrainbus.

suzy, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

this term is used a lot in transportation planning circles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_rapid_transit

also, los angeles' express bus system is called "rapid."

get bent, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh hay, birthday wishes for me!

Laurel, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link

There's some more stuff on DMVs on the rolling rolling thread. They only really work if you feed several bus services in to make one train. Because of headways it is much more efficent to have long trains on railways. Then you have the problem of getting the DMVs to the rail head on schedule and not having to wait around for the rest of the consist. It has potential, though.

Ed, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 13:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone with any experience of Ann Arbor?

Kondratieff, Thursday, 12 June 2008 08:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Why the interest in the bus network of Ann Arbor?

Ed, Thursday, 12 June 2008 08:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Just plotting the AMG takeover.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 June 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

mass transit under Trump/Ryan?

But most of these ballot-approved transit projects are also designed to rely heavily on matching funds from the federal government, and that may run counter to the priorities of a Republican-led House, Senate, and executive office. The GOP’s 2016 platform articulates a strong stance against funding transit, noting that “we propose to phase out the federal transit program.” It’s possible that when Congress’s current authorization of transportation spending expires in 2020, conservative leaders could create a highway/transit funding formula that’s less favorable to transit. And newer funding programs that have helped drive bus and rail projects under the Obama administration, such as the DOT’s TIGER grant program, could disappear.

http://www.citylab.com/commute/2016/11/on-tuesday-night-transit-was-victorious/507077/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 November 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

i posted this on "too effing hot"

one more thing: while the fact that white people don't ride the bus is not of itself a problem for the solvency of metro or for climate change (because there aren't that many white people in LA county), it is a big problem because people who don't ride the bus tend to be opposed the measures that make the bus better for people who do. check out this BULLshit, for example https://laist.com/2019/07/16/eagle_rock_metro_rapid_bus_route_noho_to_pasadena.php.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, July 19, 2019 7:40 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

let's see how that is going...

My harasser, retired process server Caroline Aguirre of Highland Park, has become obsessed with me. Tonight she declared at an @EagleRockNC meeting that I "get an attorney for slander and lying." pic.twitter.com/GyBN5uHa48

— 𝐌𝐢𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐞𝐥 (@topomodesto) August 7, 2019

when the threat of faster bus service for people who are not you breaks your brain https://t.co/KXhiCjqdtn

— sahra (@sahrasulaiman) August 7, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

wait till she hears about bike lanes

mookieproof, Sunday, 11 August 2019 04:33 (four years ago) link

There were gates in the middle of university grounds because cars weren't allowed through between prime student hours. The buses all had transducers at the bottom of the buses that would lift the gates. The amount of people that tried to tailgate through with the bus or try to drive through the gates and get their car damaged was very very satisfying.

Yerac, Sunday, 11 August 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD3QlR98--A

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 5 December 2019 07:05 (four years ago) link

That is amazing

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 5 December 2019 07:29 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

oof

https://humantransit.org/2020/03/covid-19-what-if-transit-runs-out-of-money.html

then

.@Amtrak memo on grim outlook pic.twitter.com/KDh0G0v9S9

— David Shepardson (@davidshepardson) March 11, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 21:17 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Paris isn't magic. City leadership decided to do this, they pushed through the doubt & resistance, & now they've cut cars almost in half & everyone f'ing loves Paris all over again. Any US city could decide to follow suit. https://t.co/EmXYbS0JFX

— David Roberts (@drvolts) September 23, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 23 September 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link


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