Instant Coffee C/D, S/D

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Espressofetish hasn't slept since 1985 and he spends every day in a lab designed specifically for blind coffee tasting. I am not joking.

moley, Friday, 26 August 2005 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link

He is my hero.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link

hey mole
that twitch in the left side of my body is back too...ha ha ha

@jeffrey
What machine is it?

espresso fetish (espresso fetish), Friday, 26 August 2005 00:33 (eighteen years ago) link

It is very very poor. Morphy Richards Café Rico Espresso maker with frother:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000C7AYO/026-5397425-1267634

http://www.morphyrichards.co.uk/wizz400/images/MorphyRichards/products/heros/47003.jpg.

I am an espresso fraud but it is the most expensive one i cld and still can afford. Hopefully this will change soon and i will get a gaggia classic:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000C72XS/qid=1125020442/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_11_1/026-5397425-1267634

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Though i could maybe afford this one right now if it gets yr seal of approval, the De'Longhi Bar 14 Café Treviso espresso cappuccino maker:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000C6XCE/ref=br_lf_kh_8/026-5397425-1267634
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000C6XCE.02.MZZZZZZZ.jpg

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link

@jeffery
stick to the Gaggia classic
my recomendation is that you take the money you have allocated
for your coffee
spend more on the grinder than the machine
or if you have a good local roaster that knows what they are doing
ask them to grind your coffee on their grinder

the grinder i use for home is $4000
but the grind it delivers is very even, this is essential for good extraction

espresso fetish (espresso fetish), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:02 (eighteen years ago) link

crikey! are the blades made of gold?

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:03 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't drink coffee at home because i can't afford an espresso machine and i don't like coffee that isn't espresso. so on a personal basis i think instant coffee is a dud. however i also totally agree with this statement:

After all that, If you put the coffee in your mouth and it tastes like coffee and you enjoy it .... who cares

coffee snobbery is no less annoying than other sorts!

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Excellent. My local establishment does seem to know what it's doing, they are very passionate about coffee and allowing me to test expensive pieces of equipment in the hope i will one day buy them. I shall use them fr grinding so i can buy the Gaggia. Thanks very much for yr espresso wisdom.

I agree with anti coffee snobbery statements and enjoying the taste enjoyment, i am just rather obsessed with the wonderful caffeinated liquid and want it to taste as good as possible.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

i know exactly how you feel jeffrey! this is why i don't drink coffee at home. one day i'll be able to afford to have espresso in my kitchen too though hopefully.

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I stick to my 3/6 cup Vev Vigano stovetop espresso thingy... it has become blackened on the outside from years of daily loving use. When I'm lazy, I buy the bricks of preground (and I realise it is no good), but when I have time I'll go to Coffee Company down the road and get a good espresso blend ground fresh for me.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link

how good is the smell of freshly ground coffee trayce? could it be the best smell in the world?

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link

gem and jeffery
i highly recomend this http://www.ecm-espresso.it/product/GIOTTOPR.htm
For me it is not the ultimate, but it is the best domestic build avalible, no plumming, no special power
just grind and enjoy

BTW
coffee snobs
generally the people that speak the loudest
generally lack substance

at the end of the day it is like saying "what is the best wine in the world"?


Answer : the one you like.

espresso fetish (espresso fetish), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link

mmmm....freshly ground coffee

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 01:51 (eighteen years ago) link

@espresso fetish

That is an expensively wonderful piece of machinery. That one will be held in reserve on the very slim chance i ever put my accounting degree to use and start making real money otherwise it will be good old gaggia. I thought £150 was an awful lot to spend on an espresso machine but that thing retails in the U.K at just under £1000. Maybe i could sell a lung or two.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm not denying the enjoyment of fresh ground/brewed coffee. but instant coffee fulfills its utilitarian purpose and does it well for this financially-strapped lazy fuck in need of a quick caffeine jolt in the morn.

amon (eman), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:03 (eighteen years ago) link

in a way i don't want to ever have enough money to buy an espresso machine because i love coffee shops almost as much as i love the coffee they sell. i have two favourite shops and the staff in both know me by name and like to have a chat.

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I want to love coffee shops but i have to travel 30 miles to get to a starbucks. They have very good couches there tho.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:07 (eighteen years ago) link

fortunately we don't have starbucks in my city yet. i'm sure it's just a matter of time. however (presumably due to the lack of competition) and even though i live in a relatively small city, this means there are lots of awesome little coffeeshops with local characters in them and milk crates to sit on out the front.

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:12 (eighteen years ago) link

My local shops have some fabulous coffeeshops in them, altho theyre startng to get a bit spoiled by the yuppie wankers with their dogs thing on the weekends.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link

oh yeah melbs has the best coffeeshops in the world i think! though i remember liking the ones in madrid and in rome a lot, hmmm.

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Since a pretty mediocre cup at the school cafe is like $1.75, I took my old french press and a mug and threw it in the locker. I commute by bike with a full load of laptop and casebooks, so coffee actually works well--I can grind it and carry it down there and it weighs nothing. I feel totally dorky making coffee in the vending/microwave nook (I guess other students can afford to buy espresso daily), but screw that. At least it tastes good. I like black, so creamer is not an issue.

Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to do that at work, also :) Being as we didnt have a stove, so espresso was out, and I could never be bothered havng to take a 15 min break just to go buy a coffee, I'd make my own with a plunger. And get comments, from smartassiness ("ooh arent you POSH") to pleady ("argh no fair that smells GOOOOD").

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, yeah, law students, or really, the 23 y/o ones with no life experience, tend to think they are THE SHIT and would not deign to be seen making their own coffee in public. I think the portion that already drive the Lexuses can afford really good shit anyway. But me, I'm a value player. The 12-15 minutes of preparation time required push this transaction right to the line, I gotta say. But as far as what the others think, they can piss right off.

Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:32 (eighteen years ago) link

The moment someone starts as espresso thread I'm going on there to talk about the minute differences between Folger's Crystals and Bustelo, and the sub-boiling stove-top temperatures of the water in which each finds its ideal realization. Or do you do like I do, spooning instant coffee over ice, pouring in milk and some refrigerated Volvic, and shaking in a cocktail shaker? But not just that. I want to talk about attitude and attention to detail. I want to talk about the torque on the spoon when the crystals go in. The vast chasm between water pouring onto crystals vs. crystals submerging into water. You know, when you think about it, it's really the personality of the the instant coffee drinker that determines the flavor in the cup of instant coffee as much as anything else.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:50 (eighteen years ago) link

excellent. start the thread.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link

The Nescafe blend43 ads on TV at the moment here are hilariously good. The one with the dad who's all morning-cheery at his daughter who's just snuck home after being out all night... chasing her b/f down the road with "come in! have a cuppa!". I love it :D

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it true you can actually *hear* that alchemical moment where crystals become coffee, like the singing of angels?

Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't hear any singing until the caffeine triggers my adrenal gland.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Dear instant coffee thread,

Sorry i helped turn a large amount of the discussion onto espresso. I hope you can forgive me.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link

haha yeah that nescafe ad is a classic. the look on the daughter's face.

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

actually there've been heaps of great nescafe ads. they're the most classic thing about instant coffee i think!

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic = Anthony Stewart Head

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:13 (eighteen years ago) link

jeffrey and fetishist, it's all good! It may be a coincidence on this thread rightchere, but discussions of coffee VERY OFTEN turn into one or two people going on and on about technical espresso details which makes the rest of feel mighty DUMM!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link

people going on and on? on ilx? surely not

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:15 (eighteen years ago) link

It is not confined to ILX I find.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:24 (eighteen years ago) link

true. i think i'm becoming one of the worst offenders actually. i have caught myself mid-gush several times lately, my poor workmates and classmates with their eyes glazed over, glancing at their watches. not about coffee usually though. i must try and curb that habit. maybe it's because i drink too much coffee

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:27 (eighteen years ago) link

you are a RE-offender.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:30 (eighteen years ago) link

a recidivist gusher and coffeedrinker

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I was talking about me feeling dumm but yes.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 August 2005 03:41 (eighteen years ago) link

best thing about nescafe in NZ = packets of instant have KING KAPISI on the back!

etc, Friday, 26 August 2005 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link

anyway, functionalism wrt/beverages is k-grebt! I want CAFFEINE or ALCOHOL, not coffee-snobbery or wine-snobbery!

etc has a butterfly stomach ground round, Friday, 26 August 2005 04:08 (eighteen years ago) link

It's nothing to do with snobbery, it's to do with me feeling dumm, keep up, people.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:13 (eighteen years ago) link

D!U!M!M! Everyone's accusing him!

moley (moley), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:25 (eighteen years ago) link

not coffee-snobbery or wine-snobbery!

Hah, about 30 mins ago I was thinking to start a box/cask wine: c/d thread in homage, but bailed. Anyway, to further derail thread, I like the boxed Banrock Shiraz Crystalz sorta ok, k?

Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i always drink cask wine so i guess i am a coffee snob but not a wine snob. however i am a cask snob - i won't touch stanleys or coolabah, it's yalumba or banrock only in my fridge.

gem (trisk), Friday, 26 August 2005 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I am drinking mellow birds instant coffee and it isn't awful.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 26 August 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

led by circumstance into making do with a jar of grocery store brand instant, i have done research and am informed by wikipedia and the beeb that

instant still accounts for 77% of the coffee Brits buy to drink at home, according to market research specialists Mintel. In Italy it accounts for just 1%, in France 4% and 7% in the US. The UK market for coffee at home is growing and is now worth in excess of £1bn annually. Instant has lost market share recently but still dominates over the likes of ground coffee and beans.

for years when i was a kid my dad, american, kept a jar of instant in the cupboard for drinking on weekends, i suppose primarily saturdays, since he drank 1-3 cups a day at work during the week and apparently would get a caffeine headache when he missed it. (i say saturday, because there is coffee at the fellowship hour after church service on sunday.) in retirement i suppose he started drinking instant more regularly.

j., Sunday, 5 April 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link

Several years ago at a worksite that didn't provide any coffee, I started drinking Medaglia d'Oro instant espresso. It was acceptable, compared to the alternative of driving to the nearest Starbucks. (On slower days my coworkers would collect orders for two or even three Starbucks runs.)

Life is a banquet and my invitation was lost in the mail (j.lu), Monday, 6 April 2020 10:37 (four years ago) link


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