outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

also:

"I wish people would freak out this much about climate change," he said. "It's one of those problems that's real easy for the media to cover, rather than some of those other problems that people should be more concerned with."

New hero

Really good article/summary here, from a doctor involved in the African response: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n20/paul-farmer/diary

― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

highly highly recommend this article btw

http://africasacountry.com/misunderstanding-the-ebola-crisis-is-worse-than-ignoring-it/

Overheard in the elevator this morning: "You know the ebola scare is an enormous marketing opportunity. No one wants to come out and say it, but we're all thinking it."

from Jordan's linked article:

Read any article on the Ebola outbreak in West Africa these days and I guarantee you will come across references to Africans eating wild animals, people hiding infected family members from health workers, patients being taken to witch doctors for treatment, or conspiracy theories about how the disease is man-made

tbh, i've scarcely read any of this. maybe i just pick better news sources? idk.

I've seen "people hiding infected family members from health workers" all over.

Fox’s Andrea Tantaros: African Ebola patients may visit ‘witch doctor,’ not hospital

President Obama selected Ron Klain, a former chief of staff for Vice Presidents Al Gore and Joseph R. Biden Jr., to coordinate the government’s response to the Ebola outbreak.

i heard pieces about 'bush meat' on NPR for sure

curious about the bush meat angle -- is that not how the virus made the leap from its natural host to humans?

Americans say avoiding international air travel over Ebola outbreak

(looking forward to taking advantage of discounts in air travel)

Not this time. It has been a factor in the past but bats are more dangerous and thought to be the source of this outbreak.

would ebola even be a thing without september 2014 being the hottest september on record?

i heard pieces about 'bush meat' on NPR for sure

― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, October 17, 2014 4:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

preparation/consumption of bushmeat is absolutely contributing to the epidemic and has been reported widely in the peer-reviewed literature. i'm not sure what you're referring to but saying that this/distrust of health authorities/burial practices are some sort of right wing BS is incorrect

the article was criticizing the media playing up those things, as oppose to the dire absence of a health-care infrastructure, as being the major cause of the out-of-control ebola epidemic in west africa

causeS

lots of interesting writing about that here:

http://www.culanth.org/fieldsights/585-ebola-in-perspective

the outbreak in the Congo, which is being caused by a genetically distinct strain, was traced back to the preparation of bushmeat, for example

right, but as many have pointed out, outbreaks are one thing, global or even regional epidemics quite another

you'd expect periodic outbreaks wherever humans might come into contact with disease animals (or their carcasses, or dung, or food), but for a pandemic to begin there has to be a real inability to combat the spread of the virus.

sorry for not reading other posts between mine, on my phone

Pentagon parking lot puker not ebola positive.

Don't get a hangover in dc. End up in quarantine.

yeah, it appears this is going to destroy the Democrats in 2 weeks

bushmeat sarcasm quotes

ugh
just found out that the bridal shop amber vinson went to is equidistant in the other direction from my parents house as the insane vasectomy cult

ernest angley vasectomy cult -----about 1.5 mi------- my parents' house ------about 1.5 mi-------- ebola bridal shop

wtf akron area

holy shit at the ernest angley church/cult. First I'm hearing about this. What the fuck indeed.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/24/doctor-tests-positive-for-ebola-at-new-york-hospital?CMP=twt_gu

yeah, this is gonna make life in the city that much more paranoid for awhile.

Who bowled in Williamsburg last night?

momus

Imagine if he'd been hospitalized on a Monday after going to brunch

lol

Around the time that Spencer decided to go to West Africa, it seemed that the world was finally getting involved. In mid-September, the United States, joined by several other countries, pledged more than $175 million to the fight and 3,000 troops. Days after that announcement, the United Nations Security Council unanimously passed an “unprecedented resolution” calling for $1 billion (and an additional $570 million on behalf of WHO) from world leaders in order to send the people and supplies necessary to contain the epidemic.

Ten days later, when the dust had settled, MSF President Joanne Liu called their bluff. “Generous pledges of aid and unprecedented UN resolutions are very welcome. But they will mean little, unless they are translated into immediate action,” Liu said. “The reality on the ground today is this: The promised surge has not yet delivered.” As of Oct. 17, over a month after the plans were set, the UN has only collected 38 percent of its goal.

MSF, the first humanitarian organization to recognize the epidemic, has been waiting for help to come since March. According to a spokesperson, the organization employs 270 international and around 3,018 locally hired staff in the three affected countries: Liberia, Guinea, and Sierra Leone. Among those nations is a population of 22 million. Some heroic volunteers, like Spencer, have joined the fight—but not enough. “The sick are desperate, their families and caregivers are angry, and aid workers are exhausted,” Liu continued at the meeting. “Maintaining quality of care is an extreme challenge.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/23/why-new-york-s-ebola-case-will-hurt-infected-patients-everywhere.html

http://www.theawl.com/2014/10/checking-in-with-the-ebola-day-traders

Paul Farmer article so good! God, I love him.

I work at one of the biggest hospitals in Boston and the prep going on here is really impressive and extensive but I guess now they're pre-screening every single patient both when they make their appointments and upon arrival which seems both excessive and smart. The IDX dept is right above ours and people keep making jokes about how they're always using our bathroom. ._. For someone with pretty extreme anxiety I'm surprised I'm not more (at all?) worried about this.

yeah same; i read a good thing at the times (on their well blog) about the specifics of transmission, which my medically-untrained mind had got kinda spooked out about, generally just thinking transmission-by-sweat & flu-symptom'ed-patients-on-major-city-transit were a terrifying combo. & it got into how viral loads in any of the more immediately encounterable fluids were just too small to be a concern. it is totally a fascinating & terrifying thing to think about but it's nice being back in a kind of raised eyebrow state wrt the hysteria.

Yeah, I guess one of the reasons I haven't been worried is that I do know a very small about about medical stuff including how transmissible certain things are and how Ebola in particular works. Also, I've never seen Outbreak which I'm guessing is a good thing right now. ;)

It upsets me how much the phrase "viral loads" crosses my mind these days

so did Ebola's CMJ set get rescheduled or what

was it at Brooklyn Bowl?

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119969/new-york-city-ebola-case-why-did-dr-craig-spencer-go-bowling

irresponsible ignorant media bullshit, take 8472673

Christie, Cuomo inform the feds that they will be doing airport arrival quarantines

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/nyregion/new-york-ebola-case-craig-spencer.html

I hope the soundbites of Andy Cuomo now heard around the country are impressing you all with what a pompous dick he is.

"Quarantine means go home, stay home for 21 days.... that's quarantine. But I want to go out for pizza. Really, you can't. Well, I wanna go on one date. Well, really, you can't. That's why they call it quarantine," he said.

http://www.wnyc.org/story/cuomo-christie-announce-mandatory-quarantine-some-returning-travelers/

this is really stupid. there's no medical reason to quarantine people who don't have symptoms. and all this is going to do is 1) discourage people from volunteering and 2) encourage people to lie about their histories

they are both running for something, tho

there's no medical reason to quarantine people who don't have symptoms.

In the case of ebola, where contact with body fluids is required for transmission, the likelihood of transmission just by walking around in public would seem to be extremely low prior to noticeable symptoms. But, really, there has been so little experience with this disease prior to the latest outbreak, that categorical statements about it are a bit premature.

thanks aimless, please send an email to the physicians who make these recommendations and let them know

One problem I see is that someone can become symptomatic while out -- do you really trust yourself to recognize the moment you first have a 100.4 fever? Because that doesn't always feel like much. This isn't the flu but it's not HIV either, i.e. it can spread through ordinary personal contact via bodily fluids. So I don't think it's so crazy for a doctor who has been treating Ebola patients to have a 3-week quarantine. Why are you so against taking that relatively minor precaution?

Also I don't buy that this will "discourage people from volunteering" or "encourage people to lie" -- you really think a doctor willing to treat Ebola patients is going to change his mind because he might have to hang around his apartment for a few weeks after?