god i'm gonna have to look at his alien face all throughout avengers 5 aren't i
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 06:39 (nine years ago) link
What's wrong with Cumberbatch?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link
a bunch of ppl here just hate him for some reason
― Nhex, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link
he's a UK celebrity that americans know about
― Mordy, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link
He makes blockbuster films easier to watch for me. Loved the faces he made in Star Trek.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link
I don't have a beef with him, but there is a bit of overexposure. I think if anything he's a bit too on-the-nose as it were. Of all the marvel flicks this is the one I'm most interested in because it has the potential to be a bit different, so the writer/director stands to be more of a dealbreaker than the star.
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
you know they've already chosen the writer and director, right?
― Number None, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link
can't wait to see what the director of beloved keanu reeves vehicle the day 'the earth stood still' and the writer of widely-acclaimed jason momoa showcase 'conan the barbarian' will conjure up
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
Writer: Lena DunhamDirector: Brett Ratner
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
would watch
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link
It's just gonna be called Strange and the only "minority" on it will be a white guy playing Wong.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
sigh
― Nhex, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link
yeah i'm unenthusiastic about cumberbatch, but its the creative team that seems like the bigger hurdle to awesome
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link
Jon Spaits, of pre-Lindelof Prometheus "fame", is actually doing the script now
― Number None, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link
i just don't see what derrickson brings to the table other than the willingness to turn lights off before filming
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link
He did Sinister and The Exorcism of Emily Rose, so at least he some experience with (box office) successful horror
― Nhex, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
Writer: Kirk CameronDirector: PT Anderson (Wong will be played by Maya Rudolph)
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
would also watch
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link
did you see sinister or emily rose? some decent boos at best but again, mostly a lot of characters making bad choices in dark rooms. during the family dinners in sinister you couldn't even see the walls behind them.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
As long as it doesn't veer toward some Goyer style Marvel Knights bullshit it should be ok. I guess my expectations are centered around huge capes, huger collars, a Jeremy Blake approach to color, big budget abstractions and a proper flaming head. So maybe I care about vision over what the actual story is.
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
aside from faith in marvel's corporate overlords, i don't see reason to believe this dr strange movie will be better than that constantine movie a decade ago
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
I want late 90s Wong Kar-Wai's Dr. Strange.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
i'd be fine if it were at the same level as Constantine - super stylish, just enough traces of a plot
― Nhex, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
5 minutes on the origin, but i don't think we'll be that lucky
(yeah tbf i don't recall hating constantine - it's just that a movie as good as constantine would be reallll mediocre for marvel and not hard for them to top with a more inspired director)
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
Deal's not set in stone, not too late for La Beouf Strange
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
word is they're skipping the origin in dr strange and starting with him as an established character.
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
this is a legitimately terrifying idea
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
I wonder if they didn't go with keanu because reuniting the star of constantine with the guy who directed him in The Day The Earth Stood Still couldn't possibly excite anyone, while cumbybum has some nerd love. he's also probably still cheap.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link
i dont' think marvel will ever cast someone who can ask for a cut of the gross before the sequel
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
surely RDJ could have?
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
he did. and now that marvel is an established independent brand, no one else will ever again
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link
(RIP my dreams of clooney as strange)
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
I was about to comment on the trend of casting nobodies re: Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch and then realized that they're being played by the kid from Kick-Ass (possibly the most anonymous person to ever be in a leading role since Josh Hartnett) and Elizabeth Olsen (obligatory indie darling)
so, good job on casting people who come across as nobodies? *shrug*
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link
^^^
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link
disney/marvel's post-rdj policy is "yes you're not getting large slice of this pie, but if you weren't in avengers you wouldn't get to make lucy so it's worth it" and if they really really really want you in "Name Of Your Character 2" they'll cut you in
so far it's worked well in that they've cast quality actors without a lot of insta-name recognition and directors who really want to prove they can blockbuster (though the edgar wright and patty jenkins kerfluffles suggest not everyone wants a blockbuster THAT bad). i'm still excited for ant-man because the visual aesthetic was already defined by edgar wright before it was handed over to peyton reed, who i know can competently film actors being charming (and as proven by the russo bros in cap 2, that's all you need once the character's action aesthetic is figured out). but derrickson feels real B in comparison to his predecessors imo.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link
The more I think about it, the more I have big misgivings about a Dr. Strange movie at all, no matter who's writing, directing or starring. I think the character and his wacky mystic arts adventures would be best served by unnerving amounts of stillness and quiet to go with the freaky Ditko visuals, and Marvel movies arent about stillness and quiet. A Dr. Strange movie as loud and explodey as the Avengers and Guardians movies gives me The Fear.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
Dr Strange done as found-footage horror film
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
every marvel character needs a) the emo factor and b) the cool shit they do in action scenes. i'm sure benedict can handle the emo factor but they're going to have to figure out a way for his power to look more interesting than a laser blast from his hand that we're told is a magic laser blast.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
xp -- that would be awesome! I say that as someone who's never seen a found-footage horror film.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link
I haven't seen most of these films but I've always had a feeling that all superhero films have a mandatory love (or lust) interest somewhere, and it often makes an awkward fit.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link
well the good news is that marvel's been pretty good at tapping into why the character's drama and fighting style has sold comics for decades and presenting it cinematically (for comparison, i dunno if anyone involved with green lantern had a clue why he's endured). problem is that we're now getting to B & C level characters who haven't really sold comics for decades with their drama and fighting style. GOTG proved marvel can find and pull out unproven potential but where a shitty superman movie will still make a couple hundred million, a shitty dr strange movie probably wont.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
at its best the love/lust interest humanizes the character but at its worst it's just tacked on proof that they're straight
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link
I think the only love/lust interest in the Marvel movies so far has been Thor/Jane. I don't count Tony/Pepper flirting.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
uh tony and pepper are the deepest love interests IN the marvel cinematic universe. they're practically a married couple.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
unless you're defining "love/lust interest" as something inherently negligible
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
My impression was always that they were attracted to each other, enjoyed the flirting, but ultimately both chose to avoid a luv'n'sex relationship. I just asked my wife and her impression was that they did have a romantic relationship, more implied than explicit.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
At this point, I think any Marvel movie would make at least a couple hundred million, unless it's completely awful. So many people seem aware of their track-record. Like, the trailer will still have 'The studio that brought you Avengers, Cap 2 and GotG', which is pretty good.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link
a "love interest" isn't defined by the exchange of fluids. there's obviously a deep emotional bond between tony and pepper that's also sexually charged and a source for drama in the film. whether they've done the deed is superfluous - she's his primary love/lust interest
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
obv marvel has a great rep and deservedly so, but whether they can get a golden egg from a true turkey of a film has yet to be tested
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link