Dinosaur Jr.: Brilliant or crap?

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Maybe it's my age but I genuinely feel that they never surpassed 'You're living All Over Me" and believe me, I have purchased much DiJr since - Sebadoh, solo stuff etc.

The context of those guitar solos were truly new to my ears back then. Now they're like, "Here we go again, squall...squiggle, squeak ...." And Mascis' voice was better then? Oh and the tunes. Lyrics, i'm not too fussed.

Perhaps I should try again?

Is the remastered version of YLAOM any good?

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link

It was definitely fresher back then in all those categories. Though I still enjoy the recent stuff too! Some really amazing songs on the first comeback album notably.

Evan, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link

I love pretty much all their albums, but YLAOM is by a huge degree their best

For me Bug is pretty close, too.

Evan, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link

Uh, at the risk of ruining the lovefest for their 80s stuff, I enjoy their reunion records more.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link

I'll get even weirder and say that I think his most recent solo album on Sub Pop ("Tied to a Star") is one of my favorite things he's done!

Soft spot for Where You Been, just because of the timing of its release.

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link

I love both of the solo records.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link

YLAOM is definitely the best, bug is a close second. i can't really listen to the solo mascis "dinosaur jr" stuff anymore even though i dig recent solo mascis. the reunion stuff is perennially on my list of stuff to listen to but i never get around to it

marcos, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

as far as the sebadoh stuff goes i think the freed weed is all i need. winners & losers is also pretty good. whenever i think of the type of dope barlow smoked nonstop during the freed weed i imagine it is the driest brownest seeds & stems schwag ever, right? there ain't no fuckin way barlow as smoking anything kind.

marcos, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

Tied To A Star is excellent!

I interviewed J when the first three LPs got reissued, and he said, re: Bug: “I interviewed Ozzy Osbourne once, and he said he hated Sabotage, that it just reminded him of Sabbath recording with lawyers sat in the studio. I guess I feel the same way about Bug.” I love Post and Freak Scene, obvs, but its the lesser album of that early trilogy to me.

Stevie, do you know if Mascis is touring w/ a band here in January? Must admit, not so much into J as acoustic minstrel

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link

Press release doesn't state clearly, though I must say I've seen J play solo before, and it was pretty remarkable.

Thanks, couldn't see any info on his website either - but you're selling me on it now (he's playing a nice venue in Glasgow)

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link

I saw him play the Underworld circa the Fog album, on his lonesome, and he wasn't really all that unplugged - strums acoustic while singing, but then cranks a pedal and fires up for the solos. That might not be your cup of tea, but it certainly was mine!

no, heavy on the solos = exactly what i want out of a j mascis gig

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

http://i.imgur.com/oj24H0F.jpg

nate woolls, Friday, 6 May 2016 11:40 (eight years ago) link

dude better have a valid handicap parking permit, is all I'm saying

bernard snowy, Friday, 6 May 2016 11:46 (eight years ago) link

jay

nxd, Friday, 6 May 2016 11:50 (eight years ago) link

question for people who know: are the other reunion albums anywhere near as good as Farm, or should I be checking out stuff from their original run instead? (I got the Ear-Bleeding Country comp when it came out years ago, so I've heard and enjoyed 'the hits' at least; I'm more curious about consistency/listenability of entire albums)

bernard snowy, Friday, 6 May 2016 11:51 (eight years ago) link

J M8SC15

Master of Treacle, Friday, 6 May 2016 11:52 (eight years ago) link

bernard: You're Living All Over Me is a psychedelic masterpiece, their best perhaps. Where You Been probs the best of their Warners output, and very strong.

Elvis Santana (stevie), Friday, 6 May 2016 12:01 (eight years ago) link

i wish he had bought a vw rabbit instead so i could make a little fury things joke

dynamicinterface, Friday, 6 May 2016 12:24 (eight years ago) link

xp yeah I like Where You Been, that's the one other album I have... but there's no excuse for my not having sought out YLAOM before now. I guess I know what I'll be getting into this summer!

bernard snowy, Friday, 6 May 2016 13:30 (eight years ago) link

xp Golf and Rabbit are the same thing.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 6 May 2016 13:31 (eight years ago) link

question for people who know: are the other reunion albums anywhere near as good as Farm, or should I be checking out stuff from their original run instead? (I got the Ear-Bleeding Country comp when it came out years ago, so I've heard and enjoyed 'the hits' at least; I'm more curious about consistency/listenability of entire albums)

― bernard snowy, Friday, May 6, 2016 6:51 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

About the reunion albums: If you like Farm, I Believe In Sky is more in the same vein. The hard songs are a bit harder, but the songwriting is there.

Beyond is a good deal fuzzier, probably not as good as Farm, but some amazing tracks--"We're Not Alone," "Almost Ready," "This Is All I Came to Do," "It's Me"

They're not as strange or brilliant as Bug or You're Livin' All Over Me, but they're great straightforward rock albums and worth checking out

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Friday, 6 May 2016 13:38 (eight years ago) link

I like Beyond a lot. stevie's picks for 80s and 90s are OTM. tbh I like all their albums to some degree. The 2 after Where You Been are probably my least favourite overall but they don't suck.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 6 May 2016 13:39 (eight years ago) link

they're working on a new album.

scott seward, Friday, 6 May 2016 13:40 (eight years ago) link

bug bug bug bug bug bug

shoulda boughta bug

contenderizer, Friday, 6 May 2016 13:43 (eight years ago) link

I genuinely like all their albums and think they all have good songs and interesting moments. Green Mind has been kind of written out of the band's history, but it's got incredible songs and it's really fun and varied.

Without A Sound is the one I'd avoid; weakest material (ironically on the album with their biggest hit). Beyond is in hindsight a little weak, too, but I like I Bet On Sky as much as Farm.

Evan R, Friday, 6 May 2016 14:09 (eight years ago) link

Even the Whatever's Cool With Me EP is pretty sensational

Evan R, Friday, 6 May 2016 14:10 (eight years ago) link

xp Golf and Rabbit are the same thing.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, May 6, 2016 2:31 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha what? that's dumb. now i have to think of a joke

dynamicinterface, Friday, 6 May 2016 14:23 (eight years ago) link

The Wagen

real orgone kid (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link

i really don't love bug. freak scene is great. post is great. the rest i could live without.

Elvis Santana (stevie), Friday, 6 May 2016 14:49 (eight years ago) link

saw them a few times when it came out and 'yeah we know' was always a huge high point of their set for me

real orgone kid (NickB), Friday, 6 May 2016 14:55 (eight years ago) link

my pal bob fay got together with lou recently and went over old unreleased deluxx folk implosion stuff. they want to put it out. for people who are into that sort of thing...(i know some people who like that stuff the most, actually.)

scott seward, Friday, 6 May 2016 15:42 (eight years ago) link

Green Mind has been kind of written out of the band's history, but it's got incredible songs and it's really fun and varied.

Even the Whatever's Cool With Me EP is pretty sensational

― Evan R, Friday, May 6, 2016 7:10 AM (1 hour ago)

green mind and the 8-song version of whatever's cool are my favorite dinos besides you're livin all over me and bug bug bug bug bug. and "just like heaven".

Francis Ford Cupola (contenderizer), Friday, 6 May 2016 15:58 (eight years ago) link

i still love the debut tbh

Elvis Santana (stevie), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:24 (eight years ago) link

i asked my kid rufus - he's 13 - what he was really digging lately and he said "i'm really enjoying you're living all over me. i want a wah pedal."

the western mass circle of life.

scott seward, Friday, 6 May 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

Green Mind ftw. I guess it's the annoying production that sucks but there's not a dud on it, and The Wagon might be my fave Djr song

always be charging (rip van wanko), Friday, 6 May 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link

The debut is a wonderful curiosity. If it was the only LP they ever released, it would still guarantee them a small cult following

Evan R, Friday, 6 May 2016 16:55 (eight years ago) link

My favorite comment on a Dinosaur Jr. forum, from way back in the mid '90s, was in response to a fan saying he just saw the band. Somebody responded "Did J play any new songs? Or did he just play 'Thumb' the whole time?"

Evan R, Friday, 6 May 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link

when i saw them a dude managed to get his bare leg on the security fence to show J his magnificent tattoo of him, screaming 'J! You are my hero! You are my hero!' J just gave the thumbs up, everyone laughed. important to mention that this first original lineup tour (2006 I think) in a while.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 6 May 2016 17:09 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

lou gave me such a nice shout-out in newsweek! so nice.

http://www.newsweek.com/dinosaur-jr-guide-western-massachusetts-487059

scott seward, Saturday, 6 August 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link

Kudos!

The Rest Is A Cellarful of Noise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

that's awesome!

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

I just came here to post that link. Good on yer, Scott!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 6 August 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link

aww, rad

dc, Sunday, 7 August 2016 00:15 (seven years ago) link

Rat On! Just posted that on Twitter, where I then saw this, about thee continuing saga of Used Kids----also interesting:
http://pitchfork.com/features/article/9927-what-it-takes-for-an-independent-record-store-to-survive-now/

dow, Sunday, 7 August 2016 00:56 (seven years ago) link

New album is EXCELLENT

j shredded over "rockin in the free world" at last night's pearl jam show at fenway. magical.

maura, Monday, 8 August 2016 12:03 (seven years ago) link


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