I HATE APPLE

the iPhone music library metadata code is starting to get unmanageably complex and bad, as far as I can tell

evidence:
1.I had an iPhone with a music library that would not wipe. It became glitched at some point and wasn't properly letting me add (manually managed) music to it, so I tried removing *everything* from the phone and switching on/off manually library management. It'd look blank on the computer, blank on the phone, plug the phone back in and it thought it had a few partially-synced songs again, none of which it'd actually try to sync. I'd assume it was trying to do non-destructive wiping, by clearing out the metadata database instead of blanking/reinitializing it but it was sooo broken
2. I just downloaded the rest of an album I'd preordered on my phone and it went from saying "1 song, 3 minutes" to "1 song, 40 minutes" when it's a 15 song album

I think the use cases between purchased music/synced by playlist/manually managed via computer/deleted manually on device are just so cluttered and they need to recode the logic tree from scratch

yeah I can't get itunes to sync my library right regularly, even when plugging the phone in. tracks just show up in itunes on the phone with an empty gray circle, and they're not really on the phone.

the real irritation is that the metadata is in your phone backup, so if you try blanking/restoring and had manually managed music, you'd think you would get a blank library. but if it's a corrupted metadata database, you get that back.

I finally fixed my problem by not restoring and starting from scratch and it works like a charm now, so it might be that my iOS upgrading over the course of years was what fucked it up. I was kind of pleasantly surprised that restoring from iCloud backup now automatically downloads the purchased music that was on your device. I'd guess if I had iTunes in the cloud or w/e it'd restore all my music?

the good thing is that metadata is stored in the individual files (except store-downloaded, non-embedded album art, i think - iTunes seems to bork that a lot) so it should be easily restorable

For sure. They only thing it was consistently botching was "what songs are in this library"

my mid 2012 rMBP has gotten unbelievably slow and glitchy since installing yosemite ... anyone else having issues with this?

Last year my iPhones music library database file was fucking everything up so badly I had to use one of those third party explorer apps to go in, find the database, and manually delete it

that sure sounds like another way to do it!

yeah i had to use a third party app to get rid of those greyed out songs - agree 5000% that managing music on the iphone is the pitts

The only music I've had on my phone since 2012 has been the mbv album, plus a John Hodgman audio book from the library that never went away. I don't listen to music in my phone - it's for talking, not music!

now ical has stopped syncing right with google calendar

f*ck this yosemite garbage

my problem w/ itunes is this... once the library gets over a certain size (i haven't yet figured out if there is a magic number), functionality begins to get a little wonky. e.g. if you select a whole album and change, say, the year in the metadata, itunes will change the year in 10 of 12 tracks, not all of them. other times, i go to the menu bar to save something or perhaps quit the application and it's grayed out -- no options. i have to force quit itunes and reopened the program.

if my itunes library is more manageable -- say a few thousand tracks -- i don't have these problems.

i'm running 10.6.8 btw. this is on a macbook. i don't fuck with smartphones.

I just hate LIBRARIES! I liked that on my Android I could just drag and drop songs like files. Fucking libraries - my tags were always a wreck, adding and managing tracks was too hard, and I finally just gave up on listening to music on a mobile device.

Turning off the internet search results in Spotlight made it return to the old snappiness, I should've done that right away after installing Yosemite.

just bought my third replacement magsafe power adapter in two years

>:-(

Why? Where?

they keep fraying to bits

^^^

the first one, i take responsibility for, i was wrapping the cord around the box too tightly when i was wrapping it up. the second one, ok, i was still wrapping it, but loosely this time. but this one that just frayed, i wasn't wrapping it at all.

I've had three replacements for exactly the same reasons (with the same evolution of wrapping technique) - so far all under Apple Care, but after next year I fully expect to have to buy one at some point.

wait, they told me these weren't covered under apple care!!!

Really?! Mine is magsafe 2, with a mid-2012 Macbook Air. I'm in Canada, but I bought the Air and the Apple Care in the US.

Yeah they really need to do something about those

Anywhere to buy them cheaper than retail?

This looks SOOOOOO dumb, gl apple:
http://www.beatsmusic.com/features

*All of ILM gets jobs working for Beats*

I wonder if Stevie Wonder gets easily seasick on boats.

I use beats music btw, ask me anything

Does Stevie Wonder get seasick on boats?

how the fuck do I drag and drop MP3 files into this iPhone 6 my wife bought? No iPod interface, seemingly the only music you are allowed to put onto its internal storage are purchased MP3s from their store, wtf Apple

you're gonna need iTunes on a Mac or PC

have that, but it insists I turn on "Hone Sharing" and doesn't recognize the apple ID. I get the null bar/circle when I try to move the files from iTunes window to iPhone icon in Explorer

if there's no way to just drag and drop outside of iTunes, it isn't worth the hassle, she'll just use a separate PMP.

thanks btw

http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201593

can you login on the device w/the same apple ID as the PC?
i think there is third party software you can use to manually manage the files but i haven't looked into it in a while

I use iFunbox to shift music and movies onto the kid's ipad, but I have jailbroken the device which I found a bit of a learning curve to say the least.

Man this is one of the many reasons my Android tablet is making me hate my iPhone

updating my iTunes on the Mac to 11.4 did the trick, thanks y'all, dragging and dropping from the hard drive as I type

how the fuck do I drag and drop MP3 files into this iPhone 6 my wife bought? No iPod interface, seemingly the only music you are allowed to put onto its internal storage are purchased MP3s from their store, wtf Apple

Should we googleproof this thread, or, direct this lovely person to Yahoo Answers?

fuck you, you racist piece of shit

that escalated quickly

Oh Spotlight. What happened. All I wanted to do was open Chrome.

http://i.imgur.com/6qlH0Q5.png

i think we all know what you wanted

when you're lost out there and all you're alone, Spotlight will be waiting, to carry you home. Spotlight knows your inner desires.

shibba-da-bop-a-doo-wow

i already said this upthread but spotlight sucks so bad now

just turn off the internet searching

yup http://www.marco.org/2015/01/04/apple-lost-functional-high-ground

Kind of harsh.

well sure os x was a mess for a long time, but it was improving in the sense that the long term stability/bug trend was in the right direction. that's no longer the case.

and everything they touch related to sync, cloud and itunes is a disaster.

also they still haven't fixed the finder.