This is the thread where we judge other people's parenting

yeah petty violence is definitely defensible

haha it is an unfortunate situation but I have little to no judgement here for the parent. People telling parents to calm do their kids need to stfu imo

Insert louis ck joke

i got in a fb argument with my friend over this. but that shushy lady is so punchable. it's nordstrom rack not a goddamn library get over yourself

I am more of a slapper. I would have slapped her.

When your child misbehaves in public, I at least, feel the eyes of the world and judgement of the ages on me. Thankfully, so far, has not been more than twice. I stay cool and try not to get too nervous or anxious (under assumed pressure) because that is no help to my situation and my child will pick up on it. When I can and am lucky enough to have a distraction that works, I use that. If not, I do start making my way out of the area and outside to a bathroom or into the truck.

If during this process I were to receive any comments at all that I would perceive as negative, in my state, I would release all tension on whoever decided to make themselves available. Before I had children, if there was a child throwing a loud tantrum, I'd get away from it. I did wonder once why a mother continued to roll her screaming child through Target at 9pm. It really irritated me, this kid was loud, but I hurried out of there. I felt bad for them both.

no shame in punching skrillex.

lol Manhattan parents

Uber-well-groomed couple come in with their maybe 11-year-old daughter, everyone super thin and dressed in designer shit and with fancy haircuts and whatnot, and I just caught a moment of the mom saying to the daughter in this totally forced, fake-sounding, very anxious way "Well yeees honey of course you can just have a coconut water if you want why don't you just have a coconut water that'd be fiiiiiine" -- it just sounded like a person who didn't know how to actually relate to her daughter like a normal human being, like she had to "act" with her daughter.

Actually I have an advice question, perhaps worth asking here:

We've had problems with our downstairs neighbors for a while -- they can't tolerate any noise and bang on the ceiling, and a couple of times they have come up to complaint, always rudely, never a civil introduction. We have a toddler and the floors are thin (we do 80% carpeting with pads but there's only so much we can do to contain our jumping bean).

Last night their teenage son came upstairs, was presumably home alone, and just started shouting and cursing the second I opened the door. I basically told him "I can't really do anything about it right now" because my daughter had a friend over and they were tough to completely contain, and when he got even more furious I told him "I'm done talking to you now, have a good night" and shut the door in his face. He started angrily pressing the buzzer. I'm wondering if I should go speak to his parents about it -- the way he approached us was really offensive and pissed me off. If he had asked nicely I would have done more to control the noise.

This is the thread where we judge other people judging other people's parenting

the circle completes itself

yea hurting that is some bullshit. i have no tolerance for people complaining about noisy kids in an apartment building. kids are noisy, there is nothing that a parent can do about it.

Yeah, that's not OK, hurting. Especially since they have kids themselves!

We've just moved into a flat which has single professionals above and below and I feel horribly guilty about all the shouting our teething little guy is doing at 4am, but at the same time there's exactly 0 we can do about it.

marcos otm re: Hurting's neighbors sorry they are assholes

Yeah I have no doubt that they are assholes, just wondering if it's worth talking to these assholes about their asshole son.

Also a lot of it is really just the dynamics of the building -- hollow walls etc., sound really carries. Floor is also creaky. They apparently had an ongoing feud with the couple who lived there before.

(lived in our place before)

i don't think it's worth it tbh, since you mentioned they are generally rude as well. from now on i really think that every time they come up to complain you just say " "I'm done talking to you now, have a good night" and shut the door like you did with their teenager

the good part of me says invite the people up, meet your kid, give them a gift (I probably stole this idea from ilx)

the normal side of me says "this too shall pass", yelling at you is annoying but it doesn't "mean anything"

Def not inviting them up at this point -- too much bad feeling already, but I thought about going down and trying to have a civil conversation with them at least. The irony is that a few months after we first moved in was K's 2nd bday party and we left them a note about the noise, and they actually wrote a note back thanking us for our civil communication or something like that. But they have never once communicated civilly to us (other than that reply note), they just bang on the ceiling or send their idiot son up.

if there's anything that quiets a baby its loud banging coming from the floor amirite

BTW haven't said so yet, but we have another one on the way so they are in for a treat ;)

(said so on ILX)

well toddler I guess in K's case

xp

congrats hurting! we have one coming next year too, in april

Congrats!

congrats marcos!

Ilxors doin it, I love it

Hey awesome you two! Congratulations!!

And I would bet if you tried to talk to the neighbors about their son, they would just get really defensive, like how dare you defame our beloved boy. I might have to have the conversation anyway but I'm pretty direct with neighbors about that kind of stuff, for better or worse.

I just feel this very old-fashioned old man feeling welling up in me, like "somebody needs to teach that kid some respect"

hire him as a babysitter, see how he likes it

so my wife just got back from a visit with an old friend of hers who had a new baby and now I have been made aware that this exists: http://praisebaby.spinshop.com/

Gross.

BORN TO WORSHIP

yeah they're god-i-ness is a bit of a sore spot

How is this any grosser than any of your other standard "manger babies" type merchandise?

R.I.P. Brittany Murphy

I look forward to Shakey's officious updates.

Although I find that stuff weird, my daughter's Jewish preschool get's a lot more god-y than I was expecting too, it's kind of weird having her coming home talking about "adonai" and "neshama" and saying blessings given that we're more or less atheistic. But I figure we'll explain when she's older.

How is this any grosser than any of your other standard "manger babies" type merchandise?

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This is actually real?

I wish!

I like you and your husband, but I question your decision to leave your 8 yo with a history of behavioral problems (incl repeatedly threatening to murder family members and classmates) at home by himself while you take your younger child to the library.

That's actually illegal in some states I think, there are often minimum ages to be home alone.

In Maryland it's 8, but we didn't let our kid stay home alone until he was 10.

So many states with no minimum: http://www.latchkey-kids.com/latchkey-kids-age-limits.htm

My state's included in the "none" column. Here's how we define it: "Leaving the juvenile alone when the juvenile is too young to care for himself…" I've known 17-year-olds who would've fit that description.

Minimum age in Kansas is six. Why even make a law, Kansas?

Six only if a firearm is present, eight otherwise, iirc.

6? Jesus christ.

parents who insist on going outside for a morning run when it's 5 degrees out and roll their freezing children in a jogger stroller, i judge thee. your kids are not warming up. they are not exercising like you are. they are fucking cold.

Illinois is 14???? Shit, we're probably going to break that law.

xpost, just bundle them up in one of those stroller sleeping bags and put a windshield on the stroller, they'll be find. Toughens them up.