Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

tbf they're not that off from other YA-targeted book covers. i didn't actually get a crepey vibe from those

http://www.comicvine.com/spider-mans-tangled-web/4050-7255/

This series was mostly about his supporting cast. The Rhino two part story was my favourite, it was much like that Simpsons episode in which Homer gets the crayon removed from his head and can't deal with being intelligent.
Nothing else really grabbed me.

Venom had quite a lot of titles so that wouldn't be too hard. But those were mostly reliant upon insatiable Venom fans in the 90s.

Hi, I remember that Flower for Algernon-style Rhino story. It was pretty all right.

Milligan and Fegredo, IIRC?

Yeah, I just checked and it's even called "Flowers For Rhino". I'm sure they did the Frogman story too. Paul Pope and Bruce Jones did some stories too.

Back then I didn't appreciate Fegredo but now I realise he really can draw.

Tangled Web was kind of an anthology series with each arc (or issue) being a different writer/artist combo, right? I remember picking up the Paul Pope one, and maybe a couple others

Yeah, there was a Greg Rucka issue about one of the Kingpin's goons which got a lot of praise

that was a good issue! all those are available on marvel's ipad app.

Milligan did not write the Frog-Man story that Fegredo drew.

Spider-Man didn't appear at all in Paul Grist's b&w Daily Bugle series iirc?

There is an issue about a supervillain bar where they all drink and talk. When it came out I thought it was one of the best Spidey stories ever because the ending sent a shiver down my spine but I have mixed feelings about it now for a reason that I've soured on the genre in general: it doesn't generate it's own heat. The awe comes from the reference to big stories of the past.

That's how too much of the genre works now. It exploits the feelings people have for past stories by building stories around them that enshrine the old ones but don't shine by themselves.
But now I don't even think the death of Gwen Stacy was that good either. In fact it was probably the start of an awful superhero trend.

http://deadline.com/2014/12/krysten-ritter-cast-jessica-jones-marvel-1201309398/

i didn't know mike colter was up for the role of luke cage - he's fantastic in the good wife and i can totally see him as luke.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh that dude! Yeah that is excellent casting

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/12/09/sony-marvel-discussed-spider-man-movie-crossover/

Among projects in development are an animated Spider-Man comedy that would be produced by Chris Miller and Phil Lord, the team behind “22 Jump Street” and “The Lego Movie”

that actually sounds like it could be good? wtf sony you're letting me down here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOyJqGtP-wU

Well the bomb just dropped:

http://io9.com/its-official-spider-man-will-appear-in-the-marvel-movi-1684857245

Marvel just announced that Spider-Man will appear in an unspecified Marvel film, that takes place in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Then after this "appearance":

"Sony Pictures will thereafter release the next installment of its $4 billion Spider-Man franchise, on July 28, 2017, in a film that will be co-produced by Kevin Feige and his expert team at Marvel and Amy Pascal.... Together, they will collaborate on a new creative direction for the web slinger. Sony Pictures will continue to finance, distribute, own and have final creative control of the Spider-Man films."

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? It could mean that we're getting a whole new Spider-Man franchise, or another Andrew Garfield movie... or maybe even that Sinister 6 film that's been kicking around forever. However, July 28th 2017 is currently set as the date for Marvel's Thor: Ragnarok — but hell, that might all change now.

Honestly, we're inclined to think that just about anything Sony was previously developing is most likely thrown out the window, including spin-offs. And Marvel will no doubt be taking the wheel on the character's development from here on out. Especially with this line so clearly printed in the Marvel release, "Together, they will collaborate on a new creative direction for the web slinger." That's big.

Oh and also, Spider-Man coming over to Marvel may lead the way for other Marvel characters showing up in Spider-Man movies as well "Marvel and Sony Pictures are also exploring opportunities to integrate characters from the MCU into future Spider-Man films."

Apparent new timeline:

SPIDER-MAN 7/28/17
THOR 3 11/3/17
BLACK PANTHER 7/6/18
CAPTAIN MARVEL 11/2/18
INHUMANS 7/12/19

all the shoes drop

Except for Ditko's.

feel kinda bad for andrew garfield - he was a really good peter parker (and emma stone was a great gwen). shame the scripts they were landed with were so sub-par.

tbh, after five movies with peter parker in 12 years i'd be happy if they gave him a rest for a while and put miles morales in the suit in the marvel universe.

nah, Garfield sucks. I'm glad he's dead

Oh hooray maybe we'll finally get to see Spidey's origin story.

he was a really good peter parker

I kind of think the opposite - he was a bit too cool as Peter, but really good as Spider-man; gangly physique and good with a wise-crack. Maguire was the other way round IMO.

i kinda looked at him as the john romita version of peter as opposed to maguire's steve ditko version

any great spiderman movie has to realise that peter parker is the central character, not his costumed alter ego, and peter parker should always be the saddest sack this side of charlie brown

though that's an interesting take, bizarro

i dunno if peter parker needs to be a sad sack so much as he needs to be teetering on the edge of meltdown at all times - flat broke, being yelled at by jjj, worrying about aunt may, dealing with girl problems, his backup costume got ripped to shreds and ffs now the rhino's rampaging through downtown manhattan as well argh

chap and stevie otm

miles morales is supposed to be pretty young, right? so probably not a donald glover role? trying to think who would make a good miles and i keep scaring myself w/ the idea of jaden smith taking over the franchise.

iirc Amy pascal blamed After Earth on her inability to say no to will smith but between its failure and will joining suicide squad I'd hope we're jaden free

Pretty doubtful it won't be Peter Parker though. Can't see them wanting any hubbub or confusion getting in the way of the cheers when Spidey swings into cap 3

It won't NOT be Peter Parker I mean

i think it might be since in the comix they're bringing miles into the main canon (and shutting down ultimate) and they've talked about aligning the comix canon w/ the nu-media canon

post-world smashy, they're going to probably have:

- Peter and Mary Jane married
- Miles Morales is a young Spider-Man
- Maybe other spider types running around post-Spiderverse. Spider-Gwen?

It's pretty amazing that ambulatory meme Donald Glover has managed to keep himself in the conversation for this. Granted I'm sure it's just a small yet vocal geek contingent and I'm confident that Marvel are smarter than that, but still, good hustle I guess

i would say the chances of a cinematic miles morales spidey for next gen movies is pretty damn high

and i'm holding to my jaden smith prognostication

noooooo

Obv there's an angle for morales but guys they made five movies about Peter Parker if Spidey is going to swoop into a marvel it would be so much easier to say "hi I'm Peter Parker we've met before" than "hi we've never met please to enjoy yet another origin story"

i liked the suggestion of maestro harrell (randy from the wire) which has been going around for a while. he'll probably be getting too old by the time the movies are cast but the thought of jaden smith is horrifying

Jaden post karate kid way more plausible than jaden post-after earth

Also if they recast marvel is gonna want charismatic and cheap, jaden is neither

amy pascal gave herself the golden-est parachute

FF teaser is like a spoof 'dark n gritty superhero movie' trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwh48VDMZxg

ff not mcu fwiw

Yeah I know, but thread has been spilling out into general superhero cinema.

In the future Hollywood will eventually just pool all its money into one big $1 trillion movie. They will actually destroy a whole city making it.

oboy more origin stories