Real England

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/12/08/article-1336854-0C67012C000005DC-490_634x566.jpg

hell yes, threatening the prosecution

Henry Mears, of Coombe Road, Brighton, is alleged to have made comments taken as threats of violence to barrister Gary Lucie during his original trial.

He is also accused of making a further comment outside the court about punching the barrister in the face.

Mears, 60, appearing at Bristol Crown Court, denies contempt of court.

Giving evidence, Mr Lucie said Mears told him that "mechanisms were in place to hold those responsible" for bringing the Lapland trial to court.

That Graun section is incredible - befuddled middle class parents, furious dickhead anti-consumerist warriors, lone representative of the Finnish tourist board, it's got the lot.

if you take your kids to see Santa in November then fuck you is how i break it down to some extent

Ukip side of the Mirfield/Ravensthorpe

do you mean the dewsbury side rather than the huddersfield side?

I am referring to Mirfield which is on the Huddersfield side and is mostly white apart from the London Park estate. About a decade ago I did a mutual exchange to a house in Mirfield with an Asian bloke who couldn't realistically move his family into Mirfield so they were cramped into his brothers' house until he could find an exchangee.

Praise be for the mutual exchange system because it was a dreadful area with loathsome neighbours and we exchanged the fuck back where we came from after a year. I suppose if I am honest it was my up my own arse white flight period, but what a mistake it proved to be. Every time I see Patrick Stewart on tv I always think to myself "what an archetypal Mirfield cunt".

how bad is the racial segregation in that part of the world?

I was listening to some recorded voices recently on a website and one of them was by a catholic woman living in dewsbury, talking about South Asian migration into the area, in the 1960s i think, and how the Doctor was the first person to invite her in to his house to play with his children and how that had never happened before. I shall try and find it

where were you exchanging to Mirfield from?

http://sounds.bl.uk/Accents-and-dialects/Millenium-memory-bank/021M-C0900X08524X-0400V1

From Thornhill Lees Anvil.

I don't how to describe it but you get this indescribable fucking ugly suffocating malevolence in whole white areas in Northern England. It is hard to describe to a London based poster. I have lived in Plumstead and Woolwhich before and you don't get any straight line borders there, like you you do in parts of W Yorkshire. But you also get rabid racists who absolutely love ethnic stores!

Each of the different areas of West Yorkshire feel really quite different to each other but I can never really figure out the hinterland that is North Kirklees,

I don't how to describe it but you get this indescribable fucking ugly suffocating malevolence in whole white areas in Northern England. It is hard to describe to a London based poster.

In London different ethnic groups are blown down a vast wind tunnel together, you will at some point end up colliding with, clinging on to or sharing a ledge with someone who is a different ethnicity. In the areas described here, it's more like a series of exclusive bogs

there's enough of me to go round.

I have lived in Plumstead and Woolwhich before and you don't get any straight line borders there

An estate agent referred to a house I was viewing at the top end of Plumstead Common as being in "Plumstead-Welling Borders" with the clear implication that it was more white and therefore more respectable than plain old Plumstead.

I once had a lovely time on a Plumstead bus being told lots of loud racist jokes by the only other white passenger who then got off two stops before me and left me staring at my feet and feeling lots of eyes on me.

The headquarters of the BNP was in Welling for several years in the early 90s, so that follows.

I lived in Plumstead for 5 godforesaken years and there was an incredible amount of yobbishness, twattery and general awfulness but no real examples of racism as far as I remember. The kids there are generally unbelievable arseholes but black and white they are all arseholes together. The old white guys and the white "gangsters" in the pubs got on with their black peers okay, I guess.

Welling saw some EDL activity in the nights of the 2011 riots and of course, Stephen Lawrence was killed not so far away.

So happy to be out of there.

woolwich is awesome u jerks lol

mind u the church across the road from me recently erected flagpoles for both union jack and COSG, p real

http://I.imgur.com/blow13a.jpg

http://imgur.com/bLOW13A.jpg

I never met much trouble during my spells in Plumstead and Woolwich. I once got frogmarched out of a BNP type pub that I guess didn't like the look of my suspiciously dusky complexion or something. I can recall some rampaging arseholes vandalising cars and chucking a brick through my landlord's shop window on Conway Rd the night England went out in Euro '96.

I remember when we had been living there about a year we decided that we were starved of nature and went on the local "Greenbelt Walk" that wasn't very green at all. The Woolwich foot tunnel is beautiful, got some nice memories of walking through there to get to work during a scorcher of a summer and there was some kind of art installation all the way through the tunnel.

never taken that tunnel! can't resist a free ferry tbqff

The Vicar Of Dibley
BBC1, 12 January 2002, 2100-2140

The Complaint

A viewer complained about a racist remark, referring to
“the local Chinky”.

The Broadcaster’s Statement

The BBC said that the use of the term “Chinky” might
normally be expected to relate to its alleged derogatory
application to a person of Chinese origin but that
was far from being the way it was used in this
programme. A character was describing where he had
obtained a Christening spoon for his new Goddaughter -
from the local Chinese restaurant. Both the usage and the
act were typical of this plain-speaking and earthy
supporting character. The broadcaster went on to say
that the term was used with a commercial rather than
personal connotation

The Commission’s Finding

A Standards Panel watched the programme. It took
the view that the context in which the term “Chinky”
was used robbed it of any potential racist connotation.
The complaint was not upheld.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/bsc/pdfs/bulletin/bulletin56.pdf

" Both the usage and the
act were typical of this plain-speaking and earthy
supporting character"

Oh so this isn't a sit-com, it is actually a serious character study type drama like The Sopranos.

(from this website: http://fields.eca.ac.uk/gis/)

― Angel Brain (soref), Tuesday,

missed this before, just having a look now.

I used to go out with a girl that lived on the 23rd floor of this one

http://fields.eca.ac.uk/gis/?cat=150

http://fields.eca.ac.uk/gis/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/l-13.jpg
http://fields.eca.ac.uk/gis/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/l-14.jpg

boo

http://fields.eca.ac.uk/gis/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/l-13.jpg
http://fields.eca.ac.uk/gis/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/l-14.jpg

I think arguably the Cottingly towers actually looked better before the massive 90's resurfacing/repaint job.

I was working in Sheffield about 5 years ago while the Park Hill flats were being renovated. They stripped the building down to it's concrete basic structure and slotted in these plumbed and wired prefab apartments in a lego like fashion.

before
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQW7X4X9aObjhe3L0QHOkRB2Xbci8-k7jZAuVdWXPbFHg3mFNB4Bg
after
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https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxEhicOxQ-1liuee3v9ojnw6rao_EnBYearPg9jhsMeSPeT6MI
phase one

Cottingley reminds me a little of the John Walsh and Fred Wigg Towers:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3945/15752437892_c05af991a8_c.jpg

tyson fury and the moors murders are both featured articles on the russian wikipedia

^ potential 4 Real Russia spinoff thread?

Imago I cannot believe that the church you posted happens to be a fixture of my childhood. It is a bit disturbing to see the two flags outside it now.

It makes me think: 'fly your flag with pride?' - No - it is not right to fly these flags.

From wikipedia: "Cottingley Towers, respectfully was once heralded as the tallest residential building in Europe."

Respectfully?

pub i used to frequent had a notice by the door that said "Customers are respectively asked not to wear workboots in this bar"

that is more polite than just asking them en masse

👍

Since Bull was not standardised, she concluded that he possessed a double image: "the typical Englishman (the bearer of burdens who grumbles and pays)" and the "mouthpiece of collective opinion". After 1792 John Bull served in cartoons as a soldier and sailor against Napoleon. Bull as the "uncouth yokel" embodied naivete, shrewdness and malice. At the same time, in Dr George's view, he represented a "splendid personification of changing mental climates and shifting currents of opinion", which often placed him "outside the governing class".

Gillray, Thomas Rowlandson, and George Cruikshank portrayed Bull in similar ways, notwithstanding their own unique artistic styles. While John's physical appearance often bore the mark of the individual artist, he still emerged as the hapless wretch. However, when the British beat Napoleon on the high seas, as in the Battle of the Nile, or later at Waterloo, John Bull was pictured as a triumphant bully. John's portly size served as perfect foil to Napoleon's petite frame. Thus the chubby Englishman was ultimately better off physically and mentally than the "enslaved" Frenchman. Although Bull was usually well fed, occasionally victorious, and certainly more blessed than the "enslaved" sans-culotte, he seldom exuded self-confidence, for he was not yet convinced of his own power and influence.

In the 1820s John Doyle or H.B. (grandfather of Arthur Conan Doyle), the most influential English cartoonist in the transitional stage from the rowdy Georgian to the more decorous Victorian era, dressed John Bull as a country squire rather than as an unkempt bumpkin. He smoothed out his rough manners to make him more acceptable to middle-class Victorian tastes. David Low, the cartoonist, acerbically characterised this bowdlerisation of political cartooning by the Victorians: "Satire was shooed up a back street as too vulgar for the vulgas, and it's place was filled by facetiousness and whimsy" Between 1815 and 1840 John Bull's shape, dress and manners increasingly came to represent what Cunningham characterises as "the super-ego of the governing classes", rather than the anti-hero, the patriotic abused common man.

http://www.britishempire.co.uk/biography/johnbull.htm

this, too

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82,_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BA_%D0%AD%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B4

Britain’s worst ever serial killer: Amelia Dyer The Victorian ‘Angel Maker’ who murdered at least 300 babies .... While largely forgotten today, Amelia Dyer’s crimes paved the way for one of the most sensational trials of the Victorian era – and spotlighted the pandemic problem of infanticide in 19th century Britain. Her Prison Commission file, now visible online, logs Dyer’s final moments on the scaffold at Newgate Gaol on June 10, 1896, and records her hanging with characteristic Victorian efficiency: “On account of her weight and the softness of the textures, rather a short drop was given. It proved to be quite sufficient.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/amelia-dyer-the-woman-who-murdered-300-babies-8507570.html

Phoebe Manners, 46, a granddaughter of the 9th Duke of Rutland, was accused of sending ex-boyfriend, big game hunter Stuart Anderson-Wheeler, six unwanted texts. But Mr Anderson-Wheeler, 34, who flew in from Tanzania especially for the case, was only required to give evidence for ten minutes during the trial. The gun-dealer, garbed in a tailored blue blazer and cravat, studiously avoided making eye-contact with his former partner as he told the court he found Miss Manner's behaviour 'unnerving'.

So where are people discussing the revelation that the genetic confirmation of Richard III's remains indicates a break in the royal line and casts the last several centuries of royal succession into doubt?

http://iloveroyalfamilies.tumblr.com/

first rule of Real England club is that nobody gives much of a fuck about the monarchy - which is a pan-European institution if anything

Hey, I'll take whatever fuck you don't give and give less of one. I think it's interesting, though, to have a system of succession rooted in invented bullshit be revealed to be rooted in historically inaccurate invented bullshit.

if you have ever read anything about the history of any dynasty ever you will have been aware that many kings were supposed to have been sired by someone other than their legal father

Sure! But genetic proof is a new twist, no?

not sure! since Richard III there have been at least 3 coups plus a bunch of non-direct descendants so without reading this new info i'm kind of surprised the current family has ever claimed much in the way of direct descent?

ok a quick skim reveals this is about the legitimacy of Henry VII's claim which i think has been srsly questioned by historians for a while, this feels like evidence on top of what was already thought rather than a real ground-shaker

But they say the Y chromosome finding "could be of key historical significance." False paternity in John of Gaunt's family could mean that Plantagenet kings such as Henry V had no genetic claim to their thrones. The study states, "This would also hold true, indirectly, for the entire Tudor line," including Elizabeth I and Henry VIII.

Still, the genes can't reveal exactly when the break in paternity occurred. And fortunately for today's royal-watchers, Queen Elizabeth II descended from a different family line.

there you go. as nakh says tho, hard to think of any monarchical lineage of any length that isn't at least part mythological

the suggestion is that an 18th century duke was not a patrilineal descendant, there are several centuries of non-royal antecedents between him and the king

“There are 19 links in this chain, five of them could affect royal descent. So statistically the chances are it actually has had no effect at all. But it would be worthwhile investigating further to try and understand more fully where that breakage occurred,” Professor Shurer said.

And fortunately for today's royal-watchers, Queen Elizabeth II descended from a different family line.

― poptimisty mounting pop (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:10 (6 minutes ago)

the other week i was in a cab stuck in traffic circumnavigating buckingham palace and having given up hope of getting anywere on time i was just staring at the royal-watchers and the victorian normcore-brutalist edifice itself, the political prison ceaucescu would have built if he had survived the coup

the royal-watcher population seems to be almost entirely foreign and oddly torpid, what is it they are hoping to see exactly? the inertial lack of the spectacular as paradoxical anti-spectacle, children scuffing their shoes, periodic commotions as tour groups in brownian motion are summoned together, that vast red asphalt tegument like the running track surrounding a soviet football stadium, a couple of praetorian squaddies with bayoneted assault rifles, the endless soot black perimeter walls delimiting an unseemly amount of hyperprime real estate that will never be realized