Year-End Critics' Polls 2014

As I wrote above, imo it's less about not wanting to think about the old year in Jan/Feb, and more about the websites all wanting to get their clickbait in as early as possible.

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beyoncé is not getting "snubbed" as though she needs the validation of an EOY list

beyoncé is showing up EOY lists and the clickbaity desperation of their timing

i mean EOY lists are meant to be historical artefacts more than anything else. EOY lists from way back in the day like the 90s still get pulled up whereas individual reviews don't. in 20 years if anyone pulls up the 2013 lists and sees no beyoncé it'll just render that list a little more meaningless

Beyoncé don't need EOY, EOY needs Beyoncé. And anyway, she'll show them EOD.

i don't think beyoncé really cares about eoy critics lists (she's not solange), her eyes have always been on the long game of scooping the grammy aoty award. that's the reason she's releasing the otherwise pointless platinum edition now and putting the album on spotify and videos on youtube so as to give the album momentum before votes are cast. whether nme or p4k have it on a list is pretty small fry.

Putting Beyonce in a 2015 list would be so so lame.

Err, I mean 2014.

I think Beyonce should release a slightly different version of that album every year just so it can be put on EOY lists

Collab with Annie

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Also Caribou is a way more tokenistic pick than Aphex. RDJ is at least extraordinary at what he does.

When people look back in 20 years time at these lists they will have the same reaction for Sleaford Mods as we do now at 90s lists with Carter USM.

― strychnine, Wednesday, November 26, 2014 6:17 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Carter USM had a number one album and headlined Glastonbury, that's the bit that makes them baffling. Sleaford Mods is more like some random Fall album placing.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, November 26, 2014 6:21 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean...like who cares? who the hell knows what we'll think about anything in 20 years! the sleaford mods might have short shelf life but i love it right now, it's just real ragged and raw and different, feels fresh right now. it's just a drag way to look at music and life, like trying to be this remote "objective" opinion based on how something will hypothetically age or not age well...like some music is meant to be right now and immediate and some doesn't last but a lot of thrown together "trash" music that seemed like a gimmick lasted forever too! so who knows? but anyway better the mods than another dumb haircut band from england imo

i still kinda rep for 30-something actually too

*applause* (xp)

mods dont have haircuts?

xxp the jay-z song??

who the hell knows what we'll think about anything in 20 years!

This x 1000.

One guy has a England guy haircut, the other wears hats all the time probably bald, either way my point stands

I was pretty sure 20 years ago that in 20 years that Primus would still be central to my interests. Projections are worthless.

One guy has a England guy haircut, the other wears hats all the time probably bald, either way my point stands

― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:34 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not so fast, I think there might be something to this mod haircut counterpoint that you can't handle.

Goddammit, I just pulled up Sailing the Seas of Cheese on Spotify and now I'm getting into it. Primus no longer central to my interests, but I can't use them as a punchline either.

Johnny I think it's finally time to step up to Frog Brigade

Frizzle Fry is the Primus Sweet spot IMO

i don't know if it's 'clickbait' as much as it is 'vestigial adherence to the structures of print media, which required lead times'

Primus? dear god

do they even still exist?

like strychnine

as long as gathering of the vibes & related festivals still exist (so, neo-hippies), les claypool will at least make a living idk about the other dudes

Maura OTM. As this thread shows, print mag EOY lists still come out late November so that's the season for it.

Primus' audience is a Venn diagram of jam band fans, '90s alt rock radio stalwarts, and guitar magazine tech heads, a literal perfect storm of dude loyalty

they will play sold out mid-sized theater gigs until God shuts the lights out the Earth

on tour now, see them Decemeber 6 at Rockfest in Santiago, Chile!

part of the reason beyonce's album got so much press about OMG NEW MODEL IS MUSIC CHANGING is because no one had early copies and they needed immediate articles. iirc there was a rush to immediate judgement on most of the tracks and tempest in a teapot responses galore; I remember 99 thinkpieces on eat the cake anna mae alone. some of the subtext, to my eyes, was a bit of panic on the part of press that recognized the stealth release as an open declaration of the method of negotiation and scheduling with press for cover pieces and review as unnecessary for artists of a certain level. that there's only a score of artists at that level is sort of beside the point; that score provide the biggest reason to buy the magazine/click the article/buy the paper. it would not surprise me if the eoy round ups focus more on the method of release for Bey than the release itself.

BTW, the decision on her part to put the re-release and new material on spotify suggests that she and her team get that, at $26, the platinum edition is selling for the packaging/DVD/calendar as much as anything and that in this case (unlike the initial release), the music is NOT the commodity... it's pack-in.

Not a lot of Katy B and Jessie Ware so far, I would agree their new albums are not as good as their debuts but good enough to place higher than freakin Kasabian or Damon Albarn.

as of next week on the charts bey's streams will count toward album sales too lol, so i guess that helps?

I saw Primus this year and it was p good

Always annoys me how these lists come out earlier and earlier every year.

― rising stones cross (anagram)

It's really silly. There'll be a load of decent releases in December no doubt.

eyes peeled for my "best of 2015" list, coming this March

let's just vote on the best of the 2020s right now. that arbre mort comeback album is surprisingly consistent don't you think?

I know it's gauche but I have to remind everyone that my madrigal re-imaginings of Nickelback songs is on its fifth reprinting before we start voting

I have a song I haven't even done the vocals for, so.

I remember 99 thinkpieces on eat the cake anna mae alone.

not to mention the 50 or so on eat the cake "anime"

Not a lot of Katy B and Jessie Ware so far, I would agree their new albums are not as good as their debuts but good enough to place higher than freakin Kasabian or Damon Albarn.

Would've thought katy and jessie would be high up on the Graun's list but who really knows.

I know it's gauche but I have to remind everyone that my madrigal re-imaginings of Nickelback songs is on its fifth reprinting before we start voting

― the farakhan of gg (DJP

how much did it cost to book Sting to imagine them onstage?

Damn I had forgot about Sting's lute phase

I'm still disappointed he never started a band called Lutepack.

I've come around to the Jessie Ware album in a big way (minus two tracks) but tbrr I think that "Champagne Kisses" is going to slay in the ILM trax poll.

I'm fond of the album, but if there were a fire and I could only save one track it would be "Sweetest Song".

Couple of points to make regarding year end lists, It's not even December yet, and ok that was too obvious , second that Decibel left off the fantastic Judas Priest album Redeemer of Souls!!

Does December not count any more or does it just get rolled into next year? Last year, one of my favorite Hip Hop albums, Because the Internet, got short shrift due to it's december release.

I've got at least one track on my personal 2014 faves that came out in mid-December last year. I don't write for any publications so don't have deadline problems but in any case there's no way I could sufficiently process the record in that short amount of time to et a realistic feel for how it stacks up to songs or albums I'd lived with for months.

As this thread shows, print mag EOY lists still come out late November so that's the season for it.

But this isn't because of print deadlines, it's because the publication (whether mag, website or whatever) wants theirs to be the only one that people read/talk about/care about. If they get their EOY list in first then (or so the thinking goes) punters won't bother with any others. Same reason why shops start selling Christmas stuff earlier every year - you buy your Christmas crackers from the first place you see them.