rolling stone is an unapologetically boomer magazine.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link
I find tuneyards to be more or less unlistenable critic-bait snake oil...but I admit water fountain is catchy as fuck (altho I know this mostly bc it showed up in a bunch of commercials & trailers recently)
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link
Fricke looks like a really nice guy but someone should do something about those five star reviews.
I seem to remember they used to be somewhat more cautious about giving five stars. Like, 15 years ago, it was hard to see that kind of review outside of the reissues section. The first 5 star review I remember seeing and thinking "man, these guys are high as a kite" was what Jann Wenner perpetrated for Mick Jagger's Goddess in the Doorway.
― cpl593H, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
I mean they still are somewhat liberal in their use of them unless it's a boomer rock record - like I can't recall anything that earned 5 stars in the past 10 yrs and didn't meet that criteria apart from two kanye albums (late registration and twisted fantasy) but correct me if I'm wrong.
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 28 November 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
I'm wondering which list will be a more facile explosion of sop-to-the-boomer-readership rockist bullshit
Making an educated guess that the boomer readership of the NME is basically zero.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 November 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
I suppose a better NME stereotype would be a certain crusty segment of gen xers - the attitudes toward music in both are more or less similar tho I would think even if the bands are different
but what do I know I'm a yung millennial ijit
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link
who does read the NME these days exactly?
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
It's almost entirely under 25s plus a residue of Paleolithic Oasis/Roses fans is my guess.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
i honestly can't bring myself to imagine someone currently under 25 purchasing, without irony, a copy of a weekly music paper in 2014.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
I cant imagine anyone over 25 buying NME
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
yeah but they never did.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link
not true
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
up until conor mcnicholas' reign of landfill terror plenty did then they branded the mag for teenagers
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
that guy.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
i wonder if there's a way of quantifying exactly how much he was responsible for messing up the UK music landscape? I can imagine it's considerable.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link
Caribou certainly seems to appeal to a kind of listener who likes the emotional mooniness of post-Kompakt dance music but with a more organic sound palette. Personally I quite like that album but I can't imagine ever finding his drippy "I can't live without yooooooooooou" vocals emotionally moving.
― Matt DC, Friday, November 28, 2014 4:40 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Caribou isn't really a dance/electronic act anyway, audience is mostly indie even if new stuff is more dance , he's on Merge ferchrissakes
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 November 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
xp now that IS overstating the inportance of critics
― why do I hate that thing (excluding imago, marcos) (wins), Friday, 28 November 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
Surprised by the lack of Spoon on these particular lists.
― Darvin H.A.M. (AlexPh), Friday, 28 November 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
Spoon have never done well on the UK lists. Think Stylus was the place I remember seeing them do well. Have no idea why the NME in particular never got behind them.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 28 November 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
I'll try predicting the Guardian Top 10: St Vincent, The War on Drugs, FKA twigs, Aphex Twin, Sun Kil Moon, Caribou, Beck, Run the Jewels, Lana Del Rey, Sleaford Mods/YG (depending on strength of respective constituencies).
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Friday, 28 November 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link
I just tried listening to sleaford mods and I'm sorry but what the stir fried fuck even is this
like did y'all in the UK really miss the streets that much that this is catching on??
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link
Young Gods have already featured, Dorian, so they won't be in the top 10.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link
did aphex fans like the aphex album? (i've never heard an aphex track and saw little reason to change that)― lex pretend, Friday, November 28, 2014 11:59 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Big fan here, but after about a week of hoping Syro would somehow reveal itself beyond my first listen I found it didn't do much else to win me over; excellent sound design notwithstanding. I know a lot of people appreciated it as a no-nonsense Aphex album, but I happen to be quite a big fan of nonsense and this crystallisation of his sound just felt a bit tired-out to me. There are a couple of tracks that stand out but on the whole I couldn't really discern much between the individual tunes and the whole thing goes by in one superficially impressive blur. YMMV of course - if you've never heard Aphex at all and champion consistency over eclecticism, I'd say it was the one to check out simply because the production sounds more up to date than the older stuff. But it's not my favourite, no.
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 12:34 (6 hours ago) Permalink
the album was a big treat for those anticipating a studio release of several tracks that have appeared in his live sets from the last seven years. one of the album's best attributes is its inconsistency.. it's like a hodgepodge/grab bag of styles, well-realized tracks, a couple sort of leftover-sounding (180 dB, aisatsana) tracks, and a few dense workouts with good twists and turns. there's no definite aesthetic or obvious coherence, and it takes a little time to unpack. pretty well-satisfying, imo
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link
xxpost
It's mostly people from the middle class that think of Midlanders as some kind of strange exotic species that are singing sleaford mods' praises, I've gathered. If I want that kind of 'wit' I just listen into some drunk old fart's conversation down the pub. The backing tracks are nothing to be fussed about either.
idgi and I'm probably in their target audience or something
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 28 November 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link
xpost The NME circulation is so low nowadays that I would bet an enormous tranche of its readership is industry and other media. I bet the major labels alone account for a big chunk of what remains. As to the rest, I'd be surprised if under 25s comprised a majority if those readers. I would have thought old readers who've never really considered giving it up, regardless of what's in it, still turn out for it.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link
SOrry Dorian, what am I thinking about? I was reading about Young Gods earlier and got them and Young Fathers mixed up in my mind. Of course the Young Gods haven't featured and won't feature in the Guardian list.
xpost Some projection there in why Sleaford Mods are getting praised, perhaps? You know there are middle class people in the East Midlands, don't you? And you know that there are working class people in the south?
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
r|t|c wrote this on thread Sleaford Mods on board I Love Music on 07-Mar-2014clean bandit for ponces
― r|t|c, Friday, 28 November 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
very much so
from that guardian article they themselves seem to be ex office worker petit bourgeoisie types trading as minatory lumpens
― نكبة (nakhchivan), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
realness mary queen of scots
― نكبة (nakhchivan), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
I mean I don't buy their schtick either
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 28 November 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link
encouraged by the high placing of Wild Beasts on the Guardian list, great album that I was worried would be overlooked
― quan voice (voodoo chili), Friday, 28 November 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link
I'd buy the guardian if they started covering the young gods
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 28 November 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link
Before ILX can confirm that they are for real Sleaford Mods must release all information about their educational background, jobs to date, parents' earnings, size of childhood homes, etc. Likewise their fans.
Their Twitter feed suggests they're pretty big with geezers btw.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Friday, 28 November 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link
It looks to me like NME have consciously re-aligned themselves towards older readers this year; their strapline is now "the past, the present and the future of music".
― mike t-diva, Friday, 28 November 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link
aka Damon Albarn
― Number None, Friday, 28 November 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link
YG album should get more love
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 28 November 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link
I love Sleaford Mods & fwiw I have know idea what you guys are taking about
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 November 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link
I swear half of uk ppl talking about music is just throwing around regional/class insults
"God I'm sure this is great if you're stuck in a student disco in East Broughtingham wearing five year old Adidas trainers and the DJ is an accounting student from Yorkditch who drives a Volvo van and eats 4 packets of crisps a night while imagining he was Mark Ronson"
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 November 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link
pip pip
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 November 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
reminds me of someone
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 28 November 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link
You Americans have always loved turgid UK OI! type music, now the British are falling for this pub-rock crap as well. "wowsers he just fucking said jobseekers allowance! over a rumbling bassline, edgy!"
― xelab, Friday, 28 November 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
I forgot to submit a ballot for The Wire's poll this year, so it will probably have fewer metal albums buried in its lower reaches than usual.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 28 November 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, November 28, 2014 12:37 PM
― alpine static, Friday, 28 November 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
You Americans have always loved turgid UK OI! type music
Yeah true it does rule
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 November 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
I can recall being in thrall to 70's US gutterpunk bands like The Electric Eels, Crime and DMZ in my youth that are so much better.
― xelab, Friday, 28 November 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
cntl+f Tinashe uhhh wtf
― mango unchained (fgti), Friday, 28 November 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
i will ride for 'bet on it' as a legit singles contender.
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 November 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link
For serious tho lex you would totally love 'Selected Ambient Works 85-92'.
― Tim F, Friday, 28 November 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link
Please can someone link me to a thread which is just Americans doing outlandish impressions of British people?
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Friday, 28 November 2014 23:59 (nine years ago) link