Star Wars 7 shit talk

Ep 1 - I remember the podrace, Jar-Jar, and that weird-ass immaculate conception dialogue/reveal.

Ep 2 - Wasn't part of this about Boba Fett's kid or something? Or Boba Fett as a kid? I can't conjure up a single memory from this; for me, its enduring legacy is Triumph's nerd-baiting outside a NYC theater.

Ep 3 - Felt like I napped through most of it, and then woke up suddenly when heavy shit went down near the end thinking, huh, that wasn't completely awful.

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old lunch the force is telling me that you have something to say about Return of the Jedi. out with it!

oh and definitely not midnight. 5 or 5:30. i remember this day very well. xp xp xp

everything that i can remember about episodes 2 and 3 comes from the words in the titles. episode 1 i remember clearly, sadly, because i saw it 3 times in theaters trying to convince myself that it wasn't broken

I think the feeling of seeing the trade ministers

The befuddlement

It's a feeling I can still recall with some measurement of accuracy

― 龜, Monday, December 1, 2014 11:25 AM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god totally. it made me feel dumb. love how george always says adults didn't like it bc they forget the original trilogy was FOR KIDS but then he makes it all about tariffs.

Ah ok. That would make sense, but there were definitely some younger kids in the audience.

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when heavy shit went down near the end

For all my half-hearted defence of III earlier, I must admit that the Anakin/Obi-Wan lava fight is completely fucking stupid.

III was so ugly and inkompetent. If people hadn't known for 20 years what would happen, none of it would make sense. I still can't figure out if the jedis realize they are about to be murdered, or if they have some weird tick.

ep 3 came out when i was a wizened 17 and there really was a lot of hype about it being Not That Bad, and it sort of wasn't too embarrassing. george obv listened to the criticism a bit and buried jar jar etc. that's the era of me reading slashfilm and being a pretty genuine nerdlinger, maybe that's the new internet marketing evil christopher ott is talking about itt

Hah yeah 3 was the only one I felt kind of good about after leaving the theater

I hear DLH's criticism of it above, but it makes sense to me since I have always rated ROTJ over ESB

I want my cheap emotional highs

The only good thing to come out of TPM was Darth Maul

The best part of that was that Lucas created an interesting character and completely intended for him to immediately die

like the only new interesting character, you throw him down the well

I remember one scene in II, I think, where they were trapped in this giant absurd factory, running around on conveyor belts and trying to escape the giant stamping hammers, swinging blades, and jets of flame that you normally get in factories. The whole thing was transparently designed for a videogame (and ripped off of countless others). IIRC this was the scene where R2 suddenly developed the flying ability he'd never previously shown any evidence of. (Or that he would never again show any evidence of, in the movie timeline.)

it was about boba fett that's it

I will admit to some guilty lols about R2 and Yoda having these capabilities in Episode I-III. Overemphasizing that everything is shiny and new and acting like the original trilogy was old and broken was one of the stupidest things about the prequel trilogy. Everything was supposed to be dirty and piecemeal because it's an old universe, not because the Emperor took over.

at some point in that conveyor belt scene, a machine rips off the midriff of natalie portman's space outfit: lucas inserting Sex

Worth mentioning that the most reasonable scripts of the whole series (Star Wars/Empire Strikes Back) were heavily contributed to or edited by women. I think it's been shrugged off by Lucas, but his ex-wife had some strong contributions to script editing and not just film editing.

BEHOLD THE MIDRIFF

http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md13t6U5HI1rg9byko1_r1_500.png

also, lol:

For the film's famous opening crawl, Lucas wrote a six-paragraph (with four sentences each) composition. He said that "The crawl is such a hard thing because you have to be careful that you're not using too many words that people don't understand. It's like a poem." Lucas showed his draft to his friends. Director Brian De Palma, who was there, described it: "The crawl at the beginning looks like it was written on a driveway. It goes on forever. It's gibberish." He said to Lucas, "You're out of your mind... Let me write this for you"; De Palma helped to edit the text into the form used in the film.

I would like to hear what De Palma thinks about the trade federation

all these posts about the prequels, preceded by enthusiasm for the new sequels, is incredible

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some sort of abuse survivor rationalization syndrome

it took YEARS for people to turn on the prequels and admit they were terrible

There are plenty of stories told in the expanded Star Wars universe that are interesting, even in what's now seen as canonical. There are a couple reasonable cartoon series, including a new one that precedes/runs concurrently with the rebellion. Three shit movies with one common denominator (George Lucas thinking he should write/direct them) doesn't mean that future movies will be bad. Lucas out of the writer/director role means there's very little linkage between Eps 1 - 3 and 7.

uh no, I firmly remember thinking "do I even need to see this in the theater" about Ep 2? Who are these people you're talking about?

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no way! if i remember correctly the day after TPM came out everyone was barfing in the streets

70s trailers are pretty goofy compared to today's fare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kd5_WzYcH0

oh I dunno, how about these people? Ned, Ally etc. The Phantom Menace: What The Hell is Wrong With It?

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lol @ "looks like it was written on a driveway"

it took YEARS for people to turn on the prequels and admit they were terrible

The very first published review appeared on the internet, on a home theater forum, about 2 days before the wide release of the movie, and it was an absolute pan. As were many of the contemporaneous traditional media reviews.

YEARS meaning more than two? half the people on that thread were saying it was crap in 2001, two years after release

also hilariously the 2009 revive is half posts of Shakey complaining about Star Wars

tell me who this is really about, man

oh I dunno, how about these people? Ned, Ally etc. The Phantom Menace: What The Hell is Wrong With It?

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― Οὖτις, Monday, December 1, 2014 11:54 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a couple of ilx challops

you and rt both really need to take a step back from ilx imo

I guess I'd call myself a passive Star Wars fan (although I've read some of the books, for the love of christ), but I don't honestly know that I'd call any of the films legitimately Good Movies. I'm about as excited for the next sequel as I am about the prospect of a Last Starfighter sequel. It'll be fun to see and probably promptly forget about.

ANAKIN: I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and
irritating, and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here
everything's soft... and smooth...

As were many of the contemporaneous traditional media reviews.

I'm talking about audiences not film critics

this thread also entertaining/relevant: Attack Of The Clones

Dan and Ned really drinkin the Kool-Aid in these threads :(

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it took YEARS for ned raggett, representative of the human race, to do a thing

barfing in the streets

They're barfing in Chicago...down in New Orleans...in New York City...

also irl lol:

If you watch four years after release at home on a Saturday morning, not remotely excremental. Even the Frankie & Annette in Space romantic scenes take on an Ed Wood-with-a-budget fascination.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:00 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Maybe for some fans, but I recall the general tide of opinion turning against the Phantom Menace almost immediately after it came out.

it took YEARS for ned raggett, representative of the human race, to do a thing

Hi there!

Like I said up the thread, the only thing I have to lose is ten bucks and two hours. Some years my favorite sports teams suck, it's not like I'm not going to watch them.

"it took YEARS for people to turn on the prequels and admit they were terrible

― Οὖτις"

talking shite

Hi there!

― Ned Raggett, Monday, December 1, 2014 12:00 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is such an honor

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it took YEARS for ned raggett, representative of the human race, to do a thing

look dude, these movies made bajillions of dollars. Loads and loads of people went to see them, repeatedly. They did not disappear from memory or from view after humanity's collective recoiling in horror. I am not making things up that people like(d) the prequels. The internet-driven narrative that they were uniformly awful/inept etc. developed later, and wasn't really firmly in place til the third movie came out and people started to get embarrassed about defending Lucas's shitty skills.

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your memory isn't better than everyone else's

seeing as how you guys are all happily repressing how unbearably shitty this franchise has been for 25+ years I'd say yeah my memory is better

"it's still good! it's still good!"