Star Wars 7 shit talk

^^^ this is definitely cool. that's the best prequel saber fight, right? don't really remember anything else except scissoring off christopher lee's head and the hysterical series nadir/apex when "general grievous" suddenly unfurls like 6 spinning lightsabers from panels in his shoulders or some shit.

I don't mind the effect. I thought it was effective in an Ep III scene in which this titanic battle of good vs evil rages while Coruscantians look for parking in rush hour traffic.

i think one of the worst part of the prequels is the CGI. it just doesn't convice, puppets have always been better

this kind of action meaningful in its contrast to the kind of action other movies might include: characters moving from place to place, for instance, or reacting physically to the information they receive, or interacting casually and spontaneously with others. you might have to cut all that but no matter how small the empty green box is you can def fit a window in there, and after that, well, it's imagination time.

And you can do it all in post! Good ol' one-take Lucas.

same thing goes for all the glossy machinery, whoever mentioned the dirtiness of outer planets and space junk in eps 4-6 upthread was otm

i think one of the worst part of the prequels is the CGI. it just doesn't convice, puppets have always been better

― marcos,

Always struck me as baffling that the Yoda puppet in ep I was so much shittier than the one in ep V.

For all the hate piled onto Jar-Jar, I don't think Watto gets complained about nearly enough

Watto seems like the epitome of a labored but terribly conceived CGI character

watto is fucking hideous

I mentioned the trailer and concept of VII to my brother-in-law last weekend, and he wanted to know if the original star trio were in the cast. I am envious of such ignorance in this era.

Hey which one of you is this guy

http://www.clickhole.com/article/fanboy-loves-star-wars-so-much-he-plans-watch-forc-1514

xp Yeah, but it's not like they got him from Jim Henson and oh shit it's a racist-looking puppet, better write some lines for him.

(I mean, it's not like anything explains anything about Watto other than 'No-one says no to George')

I sort of got a kick out of mentioning the trailer in the office breakroom and watching the faces of a handful of male 30-something law firm associates all light up at once

one of the reasons I don't want to watch TPM with my daughter is that I am not looking forward to explaining how every alien is a racist caricature

I'm trying to think what else I liked in the prequels, and the pod race sequence is basically it. CG Ben-Hur was the only real idea these movies had.

The pod race was too goddamn long.

The Darth Maul fight was basically out of a HK Wuxia movie and that was my favorite part of the prequels, I think

My favorite Star Wars-related cultural products of late are the Uncut fan remakes and the grindhouse version of ANH.

same thing goes for all the glossy machinery, whoever mentioned the dirtiness of outer planets and space junk in eps 4-6 upthread was otm

― marcos, Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

Thank you my good man *dons flowing Jedi robe*

this is semi-intentional, isn't it? ie the "golden age" of the Republic giving way to the grimy oppressive nature of the Empire?

man a lot of rust accumulates in 18 years

you should see what happens to Boston roads over the course of one winter

It's a much-discussed aspect of the original trilogy, the "used future"

Maybe late-'90s CGI tech just wasn't refined enough to create believable rust and grime.

I don't think it was necessarily solely supposed to be a result of the Empire, although that reading certainly makes more sense after the shininess of the prequels. But it makes particular sense that a shitty backwater like tatooine would have gunked up droids and speeders, or that the rebels' ships and equipment wouldn't be pristine.

but Aunt Beru has the latest Tupperware!

Well she's a rep, hosts parties for her village and whatnot

ffs, I went the last 37 years thinking her name was Veru.

Uncle Owen thought she was a Sand Person so don't worry.

As a kid I thought he was Uncle Lowen

Liam Neeson did a modicum of acting in TPM compared to that vengeance shit he is now beloved for.

Who will do the most acting in The Force Wakes Up?

Neeson's hair did the acting. Neeson was elsewhere.

this is semi-intentional, isn't it? ie the "golden age" of the Republic giving way to the grimy oppressive nature of the Empire?

― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, December 2, 2014 3:42 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

man a lot of rust accumulates in 18 years

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, December 2, 2014 3:47 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, I tried to make this point upthread -- the whole point of the Star Wars universe is that it's old and has this history, which Episodes I - III throw away by assuming the thousands of years of grit and grime and used spaceships actually were just an effect of the Empire happening

maybe dirt effects on computer animated characters were hard so Lucas was like "fuck it, make it all look brand new"

Even that Darth Maul fight scene, while cool, is sort of dramatically flawed in pitting two good guys against one bad guy (a problem semi-solved by the neat forcefield door gimmick) and by overuse of the can't-reach-lightsaber/trying-not-to-fall-down-massive-spaceshaft devices from the first trilogy, like you can't have that shit more than once in a scene

like the goddamn death star was totally new construction and even it didn't seem pristine. more so in ROTJ -- it's not yet finished and you see the scaffolding and open construction. everything in Episodes I - III was in perfect condition, even on old worlds, as if no one is tearing down or building anything and the story happens in this static universe

Hurting "Episode" 2, Jedi Fight Choreographer

I did chuckle when on the commentary track for the last prequel Lucas explained the 20-year construction of the Death Star w/a shrug: "Well, they had union trouble. Even an Empire has construction and union delays."

I mean it's going to take at least 20 years to complete the Second Ave Subway so it doesn't seem that outrageous for a Death Star

They barely even have an Empire yet and they're already thinking about Death Stars.

Really they couldn't do anything until they had more utility data.

it's not really an ILX Star Wars thread until Ned and I run a joke into the ground

Rather.

it's not running a joke into the ground if you lacked utility data

http://www.clickhole.com/article/6-easter-eggs-you-might-have-missed-star-wars-trai-1518

Utilty data reminds me of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftU5GfORvH8

this is semi-intentional, isn't it? ie the "golden age" of the Republic giving way to the grimy oppressive nature of the Empire?

― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:42 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah you can do a little retconning and get there

Cloud City is meant to be the symbol of opulence I think in the trilogies but by today's standards it comes off as lol 70's

I was thinking more of the modular nature of the tech

Like tons of little extraneous things hanging off of everything, even the Star Destroyers, all this great detail of piping and tubing etched into the interstices

Like the X-Wing being so modular that it needs an astromech droid to set in the back and then the droid pops out and fixes shit while in battle!

Like compare the X-wing or even the TIE Fighter to the fucking Naboo starfighter that looks like it was carved from a solid piece of carbonite

mon cal cruisers were a bit more organic looking /nerdery

Yeah but there was backstory behind that

They grew those fucking ships in an ocean!

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