love how pharmakon always makes the cut on those covers lists
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link
it's a good cover imo
― Hello, my name is Dark Chocolate Cookie (dog latin), Friday, 5 December 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link
it absolutely is. and a p good album at that
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link
I still love Walking With Elephants but I haven't been overexposed to it. It really does feel like this year's ubiquitous tune with an impact way outside quotidian bobbins territory.
That Ben Klock remix of Josh Wink is immense.
― Matt DC, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
got to 6 in the charts so yes
― r|t|c, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link
and on the latest NOW! comp
― Jeff W, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
Entertainment Weekly Top 10 Albums, per metacritic:
1. St. Vincent - s/t2. Run the Jewels - RTJ23. Perfume Genius - Too Bright4. Lana Del Rey - Ultraviolence5. Mac Demarco - Salad Days6. Flying Lotus - You're Dead!7. Ty Segall - Manipulator8. Beck - Morning Phase9. FKA Twigs - LP110. Eric Church - The Outsiders
not a terrible list aside from that narcoleptic beck record & the overrated mac demarco
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link
I haven't heard Salad Days yet but I love "2".
― Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link
he's fine, like not bad at all, but he's hella overpraised imo. only listened to both his records in full once but def liked 2 better than salad days
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link
I know we rightly criticise the tedious lionisation of boomer acts but really the critical edifice that's been set up to ensure that Pavement and Yo La Tengo are never allowed to go out of fashion is so much lamer. Which is my way of saying the Mac Demarco album is terrible.
― Matt DC, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link
Mac Demarco sounds like Pavement and Yo La Tengo?!
― emil.y, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
He's got strong songs, and him and his band are great musicians- one of those rare indie groups that show you can actually be indie-cool and technically proficient at the same time! You know, tight playing, tuned guitars, minimal glaring mistakes in the studio recording... the stuff that is opposite of the purposeful-DIY-sound approach.
― Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
i personally have never, ever, ever understood the appeal of yo la tengo. pavement is like, i understand how influential it is & some of it i genuinely enjoy but pavement also gave us speedy ortiz, who are fucking trash.
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
He does sound a bit like Pavement on occasion but his main constituency appears to be people nostalgic for early 90s Matador.
― Matt DC, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
Btw, my exclamatory remark was not meant as a "no, he doesn't" - I've literally never heard a note of his work. I don't know what I was expecting him to sound like, really. I haven't thought about him much.
― emil.y, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
Is it really "so much lamer" though Matt?
― Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
He doesn't sound like Pavement or Yo La Tengo to answer that question.
i like pavement a lot. ylt i can take or leave, but i don't really see the point in a lot of the newer acts. i liked the first parquet courts quite a lot but sunbathing animal was a drag.
― dive inside water and you will know (dog latin), Friday, 5 December 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
I've literally never heard a note of his work. I don't know what I was expecting him to sound like, really.
Same for me. Pavement was not what I'd expected someone to say, though.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link
sloth what of Yo La Tengo have you spent any time with?
― Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link
considering stephen malkmus's album appeared in the lower reaches of only Uncut and American Songwriter magazines, maybe Pavement's endurance is overestimated?
― dive inside water and you will know (dog latin), Friday, 5 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
Recent solo Malkmus is far from the tone of Pavement though.
― Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
The issue is not really whether he sounds like either.
― Matt DC, Friday, 5 December 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link
evan i have heard fade, i am not afraid of you... and i can hear the heart beating as one. again this is more an issue of me thinking something is *shrug* rather than actively bad.
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link
Gotcha- so... guitar indie in general?
xpost
― Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link
mac demarco sounds like a sad ariel pink
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Friday, 5 December 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
Wow I played some of those ones in the djmag chart, really horrible!
― saer, Friday, 5 December 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
Hey sloth I'd recommend giving Painful a go start to finish and see if you like that better.
― Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
We clown on Popmatters sometimes, but I really like their metal list. With some great contributions from at least one, that I'm aware of, ilxor.
15. Witch Mountain - Mobile of Angels14. Babymetal - Babymetal13. Dawnbringer - Night of the Hammer12. Midnight - No Mercy for Mayhem11. Ghost Bridage - IV: One With the Storm10. Panopticon - Roads to the North9. Mournful Congregation - Concrescence of the Sophia8. Behemoth - The Satanist7. Godflesh - A World Lit Only By Fire6. Judas Priest - Redeemer of Souls5. Agalloch - The Serpent and the Sphere4. YOB - Clearing the Path to Ascend3. Pallbearer - Foundations of Burden2. Triptykon - Melana Chasmata1. Opeth - Pale Communion
― ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 December 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
the YOB album truly is as good as advertised
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
Ugh The Outsiders. Is EW playing catchup?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 December 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link
i feel bad that Eric Church is getting dumped on so much in this thread. the album is not as hit-packed as its predecessor and has some goofy lyrics but i really love the arrangements/production and overall vibe.
― Bro With Extensive Taint (some dude), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:15 (nine years ago) link
I'm assuming that I will be just as bored by the new Eric Church album as I was by the first one?
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
one of my favorite things about the album is that 2 of the singles have zany tempo changes, you might enjoy that
― Bro With Extensive Taint (some dude), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
You're correct.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 5 December 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
sadly I am slightly intrigued by the promise of zany tempo changes
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF-W4YJ6y_A
― Bro With Extensive Taint (some dude), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link
i keep trying to square the idea that "rock is dead" with the current critical/ILX love of extreme metal
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link
Time Out (London) - Albums:http://www.timeout.com/london/music/the-best-albums-of-2014
30. Sam Smith - In the Lonely Hour29. SBTRKT - Wonder Where We Land28. Richard Dawson - Nothing Important27. Metronomy - Love Letters26. East India Youth - Total Strife Forever25. Beck - Morning Phase24. Damien Rice - My Favourite Faded Fantasy23. Aphex Twin - Syro22. Alex G - DSU21. Future Islands - Singles20. The Horrors - Luminous19. Mica Levi - Under the Skin OST18. Kate Tempest - Everubody Down17. Perfume Genius - Too Bright16. Sun Kil Moon - Benji15. Taylor Swift - 198914. Royal Blood - Royal Blood13. Hookworms - The Hum12. Warpaint - Warpaint11. Jungle - Jungle10. Owen Pallett - In Conflict9. Caribou - Our Love8. Ibibio Sound Machine - Ibibio Sound Machine7. FKA Twigs - LP16. The War on Drugs - Lost in the Dream5. Little Dragon - Nabuma Rubberband4. Goat - Commune3. Todd Terje - It's Album Time2. Damon Albarn - Everyday Robots1. La Roux - Trouble in Paradise
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
Is that the first Ibibio Sound Machine nod in a major list? Nice.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 5 December 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, December 5, 2014 1:30 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i saw someone on twitter say their year-end list had x many 'metal' albums but no 'rock' albums. i'm all for setting extreme metal totally outside the rock category as some kind of terrible IDM with guitars.
― Bro With Extensive Taint (some dude), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
Time Out (London) - Best songs of 2014:http://www.timeout.com/london/music/the-50-best-songs-of-2014
50. David Bowie – Sue (Or in a Season of Crime)49. Kindness – This is Not About Us48. Floating Points – King Bromeliad47. Objekt – Ganzfeld46. Mick Jenkins – Rain45. Iggy Azalea ft. Charli XCX – Fancy44. Meridian Dan – German Whip43. Nadine Shah – Stealing Cars42. Route 94 ft. Jess Glynne – My Love41. Tiga – Bugatti40. Strand Of Oaks – Goshen ’9739. East India Youth – Heaven, How Long38. Sun Kil Moon – Richard Ramirez Died Today of Natural Causes37. The Horrors – So Now You Know36. Sam Smith – Stay With Me35. Honeyblood – Choker34. Gorgon City ft. MNEK – Ready for Your Love33. Brian Eno and Karl Hyde – Daddy’s Car32. Kate Tempest – Lonely Daze31. Caribou – Can’t Do Without You30. Dan Beaumount – Trippy Pumper29. Gazelle Twin – Anti Body28. Paolo Nutini – Iron Sky27. St Vincent – Digital Witness26. Glass Animals – Gooey25. Clean Bandit featuring Jess Glynne – Rather Be24. Flying Lotus ft. Kendrick Lamar – Never Catch Me23. SBTRKT ft. Raury – Higher22. Real Lies – North Circular21. Aphex Twin – Minipops 67 [120.2][source field mix]20. Little Dragon – Killing Me19. Sia – Chandelier18. Caribou – Silver17. Damon Albarn – You and Me16. Beyonce ft. Jay Z – Drunk in Love15. Royal Blood – Out of the Black14. Ibibio Sound Machine – Let’s Dance (Yak Inek Unek)13. The War On Drugs – Red Eyes12. Warpaint – Disco//Very11. La Roux – Let Me Down Gently10. Jessie Ware – Tough Love9. Tune-Yards – Water Fountain8. Perfume Genius – Queen7. Kiesza – Hideaway6. Metronomy – I’m Aquarius5. Todd Terje – Delorean Dynamite4. FKA Twigs – Two Weeks3. Taylor Swift – Shake It Off2. Jungle – Busy Earnin’1. Future Islands – Seasons (Waiting on You)
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
some kind of terrible IDM with guitars
LOL, thanks
― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link
i'm sure actual terrible idm with guitars must already exist but i can't think who that would be
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
oh wait radiohead
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
RIP Atari Teenage Riot
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
imo "terrible idm with guitars" = refused
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 5 December 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link
ruuuuuuuuuuuuude
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
refused rule
plus you get on that what's math punk and what's math metal thing w.like converge/refused/meshuggah/etc etc
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Friday, December 5, 2014 12:49 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i sold the LP but i stil have the not your business EP w/raverbashing on vinyl, that is pretty amazing/ludicrious now
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 December 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
Y'all critics are totally sleeping on Weird Al's Mandatory Fun. "Word Crimes" is the best song of the year!
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 5 December 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link