the 1975

I agree with the above although I think the "rock" aspects of the band are not limited to their poses and use of guitars (in both cases they're barely pushing further in this direction than OneDirection) but also encompass a lot of their more exploratory impulses - the vagueness of stuff like "anobrain" feels like it exists outside the spectrum of what pop ordinarily will allow of its exponents (exceptions to that rule, like Saint Etienne, tend to have a self-consciously conflicted r'ship with "pop").

That said you can probably dismiss the above given most people's judgments of this band will be premised on the singles rather than EP b-sides.

By the way, this group is another Healy touchstone, which I've not seen him mention in any interviews (but seeing as I'm very much the middle aged, father of two, overweight, ginger equivalent of Taylor Swift, he texted me out of the blue to point out).

You can certainly hear where the EP tracks come from here …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwcd23nURAs

nah let's pretend he said british electric foundation instead

BTW Brad, your Haim/1975 piece made me tip off Alex in our NY office to you

i was wondering how that happened. thank you so much!

Regarding the contempt rock community shows them...Well, I haven't seen Matt showing a lot of interest in the UK rock scene either. They're not really enthused about being part of any mancunian legacy; they're more interested in hanging out with One Direction rather than the Arctic Monkeys, their main influences Scritti, Blue Nile and the sophistipop scene which doesn't have that much traction neither among their contemporaries nor the current crop of rock critics. Even amidst the current 80's revival they're pretty much their own thing, and don't seem to care about the bands and the things they should be caring about in order to "belong".

my dislike of the 1975 is certainly not because they're too boyband/not rockbloke enough

They're not really enthused about being part of any mancunian legacy

heaven forfend. not really sure people would hold this against them anyway. they're all from cheshire too.

my dislike of the 1975 is certainly not because they're too boyband/not rockbloke enough

― lex pretend, Tuesday, December 9, 2014 6:04 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I doubt anyone was thinking of you when they were referring to the specific type of dislike of this band they encounter from certain circles.

Maybe lex has been advising the NME under some sort of Al Gore / Naomi Wolf style arrangement.

The 1975 are the new Beatles.

I see Prefab Sprout was mentioned a few times upthread. I remember Two Wheels Good generating buzz and consternation in the college-radio clique at the time -- the Clash fans who had followed the Jam-to-Style Council lineage approved, and the ones who had gone Dead Kennedys-Black Flag wanted nothing to do with it.

They did get the award for worst band of 2013 by the NME, though that's probably a plus nowadays.

― cpl593H, Monday, December 8, 2014 2:19 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Plus or not, it was the most OTM thing the NME had done for years.

How can I not love something that lex and turrican and nme hate. That's an unbeatable venn diagram.

did i talk about how incredible "menswear" was live

that was one point where i intensely loved the crowd bc they sang every word

The 1975 are the new Beatles.

― burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb ranks (The Reverend), Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:22 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So hateful.

ha I was mostly pointing out that the Fabs were dismissed as a boy band for screaming teenage girls when they first came out

(I like the 1975 tho not as much as Tim or Brad do fwiw)

can someone work out a genealogy of his voice? i've never really vibed with mallpunk or screamo stuff and what he does seems like a compelling take on it; def gets to me but still remains unloveable if that makes sense

i kinda feel like frederick in amadeus holding up my hand, "too many... syllables"

imo they are fking rad & anyone on the fence needs new ears

I've only just listened to this lot for the first time, annoyed that no-one told me that they sound like Aztec Camera or I would have investigated sooner

add that to the list

My wife hates Scritti and Aztec Camera, first thing she said when she caught me listening to The 1975: "I never thought there would be shit like this again"

Haha, bless.

The above, and my own taking to 1975 earlier already but also One Direction recently: I think both bands could be heralded, in ten years time, for their emancipatory work in the field. Bridging the gap between pop and rock. For some reason it's not "cool" to like 1975. We've established the sonic comparisons between them and 1D in this thread already. Both seem to 'wash' out of their genre like waves, into other genres. Purists hate this, and there will for ever be purists. But I strongly believe both of these bands are doing lots of dirty pioneering work in blurring the lines between 'pop' and 'rock'. And I applaud this.

Special q for Tim F: when I first heard the 1975 - not knowing anything about them - I could have sworn they were from Down Under. They sound so Australian to me, and still do! I can't put my finger on it as to why. Imagine the 1975 having been around back in the day to soundtrack Heartbreak High! Would've been perfect! Do you agree, and if so, why do they sound so Australian? For they certainly are light years away from anything Manchester, either streetwise or gritwise or sound wise.

I actually think they make sense as a Manchester band (or Manchester-area band). Not that Manchester bands are any one thing, but the Factory/Madchester lineage is really pretty catholic and pop-friendly. Given a few years, it turned punk into New Order. Mick Hucknall and Shaun Ryder only grew up a few miles away from each other.

I actually think they make sense as a Manchester band (or Manchester-area band). Not that Manchester bands are any one thing, but the Factory/Madchesterlineage is really pretty catholic and pop friendly.

This is obviously true. No band is or represents a city. But I have difficulty placing the 1975 in any Manchester tradition tbh. Outskirts band really, perhaps more expected to be from Salford or the likes? There's a contrarian element of not wanting to be cool to them, which I love. Must be Salford :)

omg this show!

healy smoked and swigged champagne (or maybe just sauv blanc? who knows) the entire fucking time. i've always thought "settle down" was the ONE on the album but maybe after tonight i'm wrong and it's "chocolate"?

"medicine" was the boringest song of the set tbh

walked out into a crowd of parents waiting to pick up their kids, loool

I went on Sunday night - it was exactly the same as above (and indeed exactly the same as when I saw them last time, except for the addition of "Medicine" and "Is There Somebody Who Can Watch You" - or at least I couldn't remember the latter from the previous show). I enjoyed "Medicine" though!

Took a friend who likes them but doesn't ~follow music~ and he was really creeped out by the preponderance of 14 year old girls. It was, like, most of the crowd. He was reluctant to accept my (earnest) representations that this was at least in part a sign of the band's quality. Those girls, they know.

Though Healy taking off his shirt for several songs was just baiting.

"settle down" is maybe my fave 1975 song but it was the most disappointing live (not that it was bad). the instrumental section didn't really hit. it kind of tempered the song instead of elevating it to a level of unparalleled ecstasy like the studio version does.

still remember my world crashing down around me at the "WELL NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT YOUR GUN" part of 'robbers' <3

i was sitting in the 18+ section so avoided the kids for the most part. it's kind of weird to me that they have such a large teenage girl fanbase. has there been a lot of explicit 1D endorsement? i'm presuming that it's an internet thing because i don't feel like they're ever on the radio here - awkwardly sandwiched between being too pop for JJJ and too alternative for nova

The girls seemed older than archetypal 1D fans ("14 year old" is probably misleading: it was more like a 14 - 17 spread).

I suspect a lot of it comes down to the fact that Matt Healy's entire schtick is of the redeemable bad boy.

Perhaps the biggest reaction (apart from "Chocolate") among this crowd was for "Girls", a lot of the audience seemed to like the idea that he was singing it to them personally.

And yeah I suspect it's been an internet / word of fingers and thumbs thing.

My boyfriend came along as he has been subjected to The 1975 constantly in the car since about the time of the release of the IV EP, and has grown to like them.

On the one hand he was moved to compliment the stylistic range on display following the guitar pyrotechnics at the end of "You", the goth minimalism of "Me", the Blue Nile balladry of "fallingforyou" and the piano/sax duet on "Is There Somebody Who Can Watch You".

But then after "She Way Out" and "Settle Down" and "Girls" had all played he said to me, "these guys definitely have a lot of songs that sound kinda the same but I like that sound so i don't mind."

bad boy he may be, but healy still seems like a grot - i was a long way from the stage but the whole night i kept thinking "taylor swift is really hitting THAT?"

Healy isn't a bad boy, he's a fucking spoilt rich kid. A total poser.

The 1975 attract the 1D crowd because they're a glorified boy band, natch.

Not like the good old days of the Gallagher brothers, eh.

More like those lesser bands from the '80s that were all haircut and no substance.

The Britpop version of Matt Healy was Crispian Mills, fwiw.

healy is hott
taylor is otm
fuiud

:D

Amazing tumblr about the 1975 & 1D: http://hereforthehair.tumblr.com/

Turrican you're being sub-dog-latinesque

i love haircut and hate substance

probably late but just discovered this great artful rmx of 'pressure'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtAFNq4i9gc&feature=youtu.be

http://i.imgur.com/X8Hx3cg.png

http://i.imgur.com/BRnbmCn.png

holy fuck

but it's not even meant to be coming out until "feb-apr 2016"!?!?!

idk

i could deal with a 2016 release if we get three or four eps this year

here's the video where matty talks about a 2016 release. also discusses how hats is one of the best albums ever and there's a d'angelo sample on one of the tracks(!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoxANj3ZSUg#t=8m30s

also discusses how hats is one of the best albums ever

UGH