Pleasantly surprised to see that Michael Jackson song in the Pitchfork list.
― MarkoP, Monday, 15 December 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link
Shamir comin with the "212" of 2014
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 15 December 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
has p4k ever even acknowledged taylor swift's music before?
i am also faintly surprised to see the mj track (but ONLY THE ORIGINAL VERSION apparently) charming spin/p4k etc.
katherine's "partition" writeup is great
― dyl, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
"never ever getting back together" -- the worst single off 'red' -- made the 2012 YE list and the half-decade list, but that's it as far as i know
― J0rdan S., Monday, 15 December 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
'you belong with me' made the '09 list
― uberweiss, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
21 Sophie - Lemonade / Hard14 QT - Hey QT
end sophie
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 15 December 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
I don't mind Hey QT, but both Lemonade and Hard are turabul.
― Mailkhimp (Johnny Fever), Monday, 15 December 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link
ag cook "beautiful" is the best of all those tracks
― J0rdan S., Monday, 15 December 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
This literally sounds like diarrhea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdLvp630plc
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
yeah taylor's made eoy lists due to individual contributors putting her on their ballots, but p4k refusing to acknowledge her existence otherwise and deign her with a review at this point looks hopelessly out of touch. wonder if they'll do an about-turn come lp6 now she's more socially acceptable amongst their readership.
― prolego, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
p4k's lists are clearly not purely ballot-determined tho
― dyl, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link
tell me more
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link
Jhene over Tinashe smh
― abcfsk, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link
I can't fucking unhear the diarrhea thing and I didn't even like "Lemonade"
― katherine, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
lol
― dyl, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
(also, re upthread, thanks!)
― katherine, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
wonder if they'll do an about-turn come lp6 now she's more socially acceptable amongst their readership.
it'll be funnier if they do tbh, it'll make it evident just how much coverage/lack of is determined by positioning and taste calculus rather than quality. does anyone think taylor swift is making the best music of her career right now, or is it just harder to outright ignore her? obv p4k are not alone in this.
ban sophie seconded
― lex pretend, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
people hate SOPHIE now? I haven't heard any of the recent stuff...
― dive inside water and you will know (dog latin), Monday, 15 December 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
all I know is that Taylor's full-on embrace of pop music is making ppl of my acquaintance who have been as irritated with her as I have been go "wait, I really like this" so there may be an argument to be made that Taylor is making the most relatable music of her career right now
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Monday, 15 December 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
"does anyone think taylor swift is making the best music of her career right now"
not able or going to comment on the speculation spiral here, but fwiw I am one person who thinks this
― katherine, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
Unofficial tally of 56 metal musicians polled by MetalSucks:
1 Mastodon, Once More ‘Round the Sun2 Behemoth – The Satanist2 Triptykon – Melana Chasmata4 Cannibal Corpse – A Skeletal Domain5 Eyehategod, S/T6 Godflesh – Decline & Fall EP7 Septicflesh – Titan8 Swans – To Be Kind9 Dead Congregation – Promulgation of the Fall10 Black Anvil – Hail Death11 Misery Index – The Killing Gods11 Pallbearer – Foundations of Burden13 YOB – Clearing the Path to Ascend14 Midnight- No Mercy for Mayhem15 Cynic – Kindly Bent to Free Us16 Blut Aus Nord – Memoria Vetusta – Saturnian Poetry17 Atriarch – An Unending Pathway17 Trap Them – Blissfucker19 Bölzer – Zoma19 Job for a Cowboy – Sun Rater21 Aborted – Necrotic Manifesto21 At The Gates- At War with Reality21 Lana Del Rey – Ultraviolence24 Pink Floyd – The Endless River24 Wovenhand – Refractory Obdurate
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link
Correction, that's Godflesh - A World Lit Only by Fire not the EP.
Have always disliked Sophie but Hey QT is giving me full-on red mist.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
i'd find it hard to see beyond "hey qt" if i was asked for the worst track of 2014
― lex pretend, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link
Sophie's idea of pop is tailor made for p4k, really.
Does anyone think taylor swift is making the best music of her career right now, or is it just harder to outright ignore her?
I think there's a huge degree of realizing if she hasn't gone away yet, maybe she deserves some recognition. Not that different from what happened with Justin Timberlake circa Justified.
By the way in two years S/T will be 10 years old; I'm intrigued to see the level of reconsideration it gets among critics. Even more so with Fearless, but we're 4 years away from that.
― cpl593H, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link
Maybe I'm misremembering through a filter of ILX love but I thought there was a gigantic critgasm over Justified at the time, driven mostly by the Neptunes/Timbaland production.
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Monday, 15 December 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
That's what I remember too!
― cpl593H, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
oh I see, I misread you
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Monday, 15 December 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link
(I keep forgetting 'NSync existed, which may be part of Justin's plan)
Oh this man could never forget that lightning bolt of music striking through his heart that was "No strings attached" :S
― cpl593H, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link
Re the discussion of Noura Mint Seymali upthread, I was confusing her with someone else. Noura Mint Seymali is awesome—it's Aziza Brahim who's putting out a boring, café-background-music version of this type of thing.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 15 December 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
Sophie did terrible stuff recently but BIPP is still the jam.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 15 December 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link
Just listened to Hey QT. Not great but better than a lot of stuff that people pass off for 'good' on this forum. Haven't really paid much attention to PC Music but i get that theyre prob the successors of people who dug happy hardcore, chiptunes, electroclash and stuff like Tatu back in the day, except doing it with an increasingly arch veneer. Double-arch if you consider the electroclash crowd were effectively parodying 80s nu-romantic tropes.
― dive inside water and you will know (dog latin), Monday, 15 December 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link
Is it me or there is more hip-hop/rnb on this year's pitchfork list than any other?
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link
i think so. as lol- and zing-worthy as p4k can be the top tracks lists have been relatively diverse the past few years
― franch montana (slothroprhymes), Monday, 15 December 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link
*can be at times
― franch montana (slothroprhymes), Monday, 15 December 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link
i admire the future islands singer, that letterman video is pretty great, he has passion and heart. but he needs a different band, i am sick of the same 80s peter hook/new order sound that indie has been aping for decades now
― marcos, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link
(speaking of the #1 p4k track of 2014, i wasn't clear about that)
Just discovered Jessica Pratt at the moment, really my thing. End of year lists are the best.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
Only problem I have with Future Islands backing band is that they win the most bored looking band of 2014. And I have to assume it's because they think it looks cool to appear bored.
― Evan, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link
i know! it's such a contrast with their singer, their boredom is very jarring next to him
― marcos, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
they think it looks cool to appear bored.
or just that they have little to no stage presence (especially compared to the dynamo of weirdness he is) - like a fair amount of dudes in indie bands
― franch montana (slothroprhymes), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
I don't feel like defending that band in particular, but is it a problem to look bored on stage? I just assume no musician truly is, just hyper focused or extremely nervous.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link
^ someone who likes boring indie music.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link
i find it hard to believe that these dudes who just like a year before were playing fucking warehouse shows and weeknight half full club gigs were going on the david letterman show and purposefully being "bored" or blase
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
is it a problem to look bored on stage?
doesn't bother me that much in bands within that wheelhouse, long as the music's good.
― franch montana (slothroprhymes), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
Not a big deal to me, just something I noticed in all the live clips I've seen at this point.
― Evan, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link
i don't think they are trying to look bored or blase. they just look bored and blase
― marcos, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link
i almost think it would too much honestly if the other guys were super animated anyway with the leader singer as he is, would be overkill imo
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
That was just me guessing based on the intensity of their blasé. And I'm not saying they need to be super animated, it's just I wasn't seeing them grooving AT ALL.
― Evan, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link