Year-End Critics' Polls 2014

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has p4k ever even acknowledged taylor swift's music before?

"never ever getting back together" -- the worst single off 'red' -- made the 2012 YE list and the half-decade list, but that's it as far as i know

J0rdan S., Monday, 15 December 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

'you belong with me' made the '09 list

uberweiss, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

21 Sophie - Lemonade / Hard
14 QT - Hey QT

end sophie

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 15 December 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

I don't mind Hey QT, but both Lemonade and Hard are turabul.

Mailkhimp (Johnny Fever), Monday, 15 December 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

ag cook "beautiful" is the best of all those tracks

J0rdan S., Monday, 15 December 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

This literally sounds like diarrhea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdLvp630plc

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

yeah taylor's made eoy lists due to individual contributors putting her on their ballots, but p4k refusing to acknowledge her existence otherwise and deign her with a review at this point looks hopelessly out of touch. wonder if they'll do an about-turn come lp6 now she's more socially acceptable amongst their readership.

prolego, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

p4k's lists are clearly not purely ballot-determined tho

dyl, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

tell me more

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

Jhene over Tinashe smh

abcfsk, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

I can't fucking unhear the diarrhea thing and I didn't even like "Lemonade"

katherine, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

lol

dyl, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

(also, re upthread, thanks!)

katherine, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

wonder if they'll do an about-turn come lp6 now she's more socially acceptable amongst their readership.

it'll be funnier if they do tbh, it'll make it evident just how much coverage/lack of is determined by positioning and taste calculus rather than quality. does anyone think taylor swift is making the best music of her career right now, or is it just harder to outright ignore her? obv p4k are not alone in this.

ban sophie seconded

lex pretend, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

people hate SOPHIE now? I haven't heard any of the recent stuff...

dive inside water and you will know (dog latin), Monday, 15 December 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

all I know is that Taylor's full-on embrace of pop music is making ppl of my acquaintance who have been as irritated with her as I have been go "wait, I really like this" so there may be an argument to be made that Taylor is making the most relatable music of her career right now

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Monday, 15 December 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link

"does anyone think taylor swift is making the best music of her career right now"

not able or going to comment on the speculation spiral here, but fwiw I am one person who thinks this

katherine, Monday, 15 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

Unofficial tally of 56 metal musicians polled by MetalSucks:

1 Mastodon, Once More ‘Round the Sun
2 Behemoth – The Satanist
2 Triptykon – Melana Chasmata
4 Cannibal Corpse – A Skeletal Domain
5 Eyehategod, S/T
6 Godflesh – Decline & Fall EP
7 Septicflesh – Titan
8 Swans – To Be Kind
9 Dead Congregation – Promulgation of the Fall
10 Black Anvil – Hail Death
11 Misery Index – The Killing Gods
11 Pallbearer – Foundations of Burden
13 YOB – Clearing the Path to Ascend
14 Midnight- No Mercy for Mayhem
15 Cynic – Kindly Bent to Free Us
16 Blut Aus Nord – Memoria Vetusta – Saturnian Poetry
17 Atriarch – An Unending Pathway
17 Trap Them – Blissfucker
19 Bölzer – Zoma
19 Job for a Cowboy – Sun Rater
21 Aborted – Necrotic Manifesto
21 At The Gates- At War with Reality
21 Lana Del Rey – Ultraviolence
24 Pink Floyd – The Endless River
24 Wovenhand – Refractory Obdurate

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

Correction, that's Godflesh - A World Lit Only by Fire not the EP.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

Have always disliked Sophie but Hey QT is giving me full-on red mist.

Re-Make/Re-Model, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link

i'd find it hard to see beyond "hey qt" if i was asked for the worst track of 2014

lex pretend, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

Sophie's idea of pop is tailor made for p4k, really.

Does anyone think taylor swift is making the best music of her career right now, or is it just harder to outright ignore her?

I think there's a huge degree of realizing if she hasn't gone away yet, maybe she deserves some recognition. Not that different from what happened with Justin Timberlake circa Justified.

By the way in two years S/T will be 10 years old; I'm intrigued to see the level of reconsideration it gets among critics. Even more so with Fearless, but we're 4 years away from that.

cpl593H, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

Maybe I'm misremembering through a filter of ILX love but I thought there was a gigantic critgasm over Justified at the time, driven mostly by the Neptunes/Timbaland production.

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Monday, 15 December 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link

That's what I remember too!

cpl593H, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

oh I see, I misread you

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Monday, 15 December 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

(I keep forgetting 'NSync existed, which may be part of Justin's plan)

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Monday, 15 December 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

Oh this man could never forget that lightning bolt of music striking through his heart that was "No strings attached" :S

cpl593H, Monday, 15 December 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

Re the discussion of Noura Mint Seymali upthread, I was confusing her with someone else. Noura Mint Seymali is awesome—it's Aziza Brahim who's putting out a boring, café-background-music version of this type of thing.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 15 December 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link

Sophie did terrible stuff recently but BIPP is still the jam.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 15 December 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

Just listened to Hey QT. Not great but better than a lot of stuff that people pass off for 'good' on this forum. Haven't really paid much attention to PC Music but i get that theyre prob the successors of people who dug happy hardcore, chiptunes, electroclash and stuff like Tatu back in the day, except doing it with an increasingly arch veneer. Double-arch if you consider the electroclash crowd were effectively parodying 80s nu-romantic tropes.

dive inside water and you will know (dog latin), Monday, 15 December 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

Is it me or there is more hip-hop/rnb on this year's pitchfork list than any other?

Van Horn Street, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

i think so. as lol- and zing-worthy as p4k can be the top tracks lists have been relatively diverse the past few years

franch montana (slothroprhymes), Monday, 15 December 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link

*can be at times

franch montana (slothroprhymes), Monday, 15 December 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link

i admire the future islands singer, that letterman video is pretty great, he has passion and heart. but he needs a different band, i am sick of the same 80s peter hook/new order sound that indie has been aping for decades now

marcos, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link

(speaking of the #1 p4k track of 2014, i wasn't clear about that)

marcos, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link

Just discovered Jessica Pratt at the moment, really my thing. End of year lists are the best.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

Only problem I have with Future Islands backing band is that they win the most bored looking band of 2014. And I have to assume it's because they think it looks cool to appear bored.

Evan, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link

i know! it's such a contrast with their singer, their boredom is very jarring next to him

marcos, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

they think it looks cool to appear bored.

or just that they have little to no stage presence (especially compared to the dynamo of weirdness he is) - like a fair amount of dudes in indie bands

franch montana (slothroprhymes), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

I don't feel like defending that band in particular, but is it a problem to look bored on stage? I just assume no musician truly is, just hyper focused or extremely nervous.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link

^ someone who likes boring indie music.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link

i find it hard to believe that these dudes who just like a year before were playing fucking warehouse shows and weeknight half full club gigs were going on the david letterman show and purposefully being "bored" or blase

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link

is it a problem to look bored on stage?

doesn't bother me that much in bands within that wheelhouse, long as the music's good.

franch montana (slothroprhymes), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link

Not a big deal to me, just something I noticed in all the live clips I've seen at this point.

Evan, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link

i don't think they are trying to look bored or blase. they just look bored and blase

marcos, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link

i almost think it would too much honestly if the other guys were super animated anyway with the leader singer as he is, would be overkill imo

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link

That was just me guessing based on the intensity of their blasé. And I'm not saying they need to be super animated, it's just I wasn't seeing them grooving AT ALL.

Evan, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link

they could at least have the decency to groove

tl;dr, gukbar, morbis detrius (wins), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link

Their facial expressions, too.

Evan, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link

i dunno i feel like shy ppl tend to shut down

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link


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