GROUPER "Way Their Crept" --- CONTACT

yeah would not be flattered to be called a conduit.

Yeah but could be for worse things than the voice of the universe.

This remains the worst titled thread

Heavy Water sounds like Benoit Pioulard

wow, simultaneously hyperbolic and condescending

maybe... she's just a good songwriter?

― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:37 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm fairly sure that this is Spazz's way of saying she's a great songwriter.

i need to listen to the new benoit pioulard - didn't he go full on ambient/instrumental with the new one? BP was always really frustrating for me. i have a couple of his records (the Precis and Temper collected 2LP thing that Kranky put out a while back), and saw him play once with Windy & Carl (some of the audience actually fell asleep!), but somehow it always felt like things never completely came together in his recorded output. his music is almost singularly in between spaces for me, and although i love the idea of that, in practice i end up turning the stereo and off and sitting in silence.

None of BP's albums are dramatically different from each other, but for the record Lasted is the best iteration of his sound. So if you like what he does generally speaking but feel like his records haven't clicked, that might be the one to try.

The new one is full ambient, apparently, but it's not out yet. Comes out in March I think.

i finally dug into ruins and it leveled me. "clearing" is a tidal force. that song will be with me for the rest of my life.

also recently discovered julie byrne's 2014 album "rooms with walls and windows" which i would strongly recommend to grouper fans. it's a bit less, idk, spectral compared to grouper, but i've been really enjoying it. it puts me in an headspace that's adjacent to what harris' stuff does for me.

yeah that julie byrne album is great, you might want to check out Broken Twin's May as well

YES

http://pitchfork.com/news/60270-groupers-liz-harris-announces-debut-album-from-dream-pop-band-helen-shares-motorcycle/

A couple years ago, Grouper's Liz Harris released one single by her dream-pop band, Helen. The band, also featuring Jed Bindeman (of Eternal Tapestry) and Scott Simmons (and someone named Helen credited with "back up vocals"), have now announced their debut album. The Original Faces is out September 4 via Kranky. Listen to "Motorcycle" above.

01 Ryder
02 Motorcycle
03 Covered in Shade
04 Felt This Way
05 Pass Me By
06 Right Outcome
07 Allison
08 Dying All the Time
09 Grace
10 City Breathing
11 Violet
12 The Original Faces

i'm at work so haven't had the chance to listen to the new song. but man, i really REALLY loved that little 7 inch they put out a couple years ago. can't wait to hear the full length

ohhhhhhhh swooooooooooooooooooooon!

this sounds great!
w/ organ & tangled guitar grouper dna not so present in the first two songs.
hey maybe we get to go see helen shows

http://cdn3.pitchfork.com/news/60270/8700513c.jpg

best band foto

awesome, that track sounds like an early sarah records 7"

Love it!!!!

YES! "Dying All the Time" was fantastico.

another song is streaming!

http://www.thefourohfive.com/music/article/jump-into-the-gently-swaying-noise-of-violet-by-helen-143

plus it's not available for pre-order at http://www.kranky.net/

I think you meant "now"

mistakes were made, the zs story

this is so good

ty karl, this is hardchoral

Enjoying the lost classic from ~1990 vibe of the Helen record. Could imagine discovering it via a Forced Exposure review that references Kendra Smith and Crystalized Movements.

Happier times when i was lonely, scared and miserable in my bedroom.

just discovering pale saints

The Helen album sounds very 90s liberal arts college band-y. Not a bad thing.

I don't like how her vox are drenched in so much reverb. It's not like she has a bad voice...I understand it's the aesthetic but...

Drummer demonstrates that perpetual behind the beat, just learned to play a month ago vibe

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this is so great
the grouperness of it is so satisfying, & then there's this whole other dimension to the really pop pop songs
like allison is like early best coast
i remember reading grouper & tiny vipers talking about the mirroring record & how they spent forever choosing song titles
& this is in that same lyrical zone sometimes
like i am walking around thinking city breathing

i still haven't heard it! i got a download link via twitter dm but couldn't get it to work without malware. i'm going to go old school and buy a physical copy though, so it will work out. can't wait.

get the malware version

ltd ed DELUXE malware version ft KoolSearch Browser Toolbar

Dear recipient,
Avangar Technologies announces THE ORIGINAL FACES, the beginning of a new unprecendented global employment campaign.
reviser yeller winers butchery twenties
Due to company's exploding growth HELEN is expanding AVAILABLE business to the European region.
During last employment campaign over 1500 people worldwide took part in Avangar's business
and more than half of them are currently employed by the company. And NOW we are offering you
one more opportunity to earn DIGITAL MONEY working with Avangar Technologies.
druggists blame ANALOG classy gentry Aladdin MONEY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1O9O21TXqc

guh <3

instrumentally 'covered in shade' sorta sounds like early clean. so good.

the galaxie 500/new order higher register bass thing is happening throughout the record. the two songs from the 2013 single (felt this way and dying all the time) still rule just as hard. i don't know how many people heard it so they'll probably still be new to most. 'dying all the time' appears in remixed form and is even more woozier and fuzzier than the original version. a keyboard is added to the mix, and the guitar is moved to a more abstract siderole. i loved the 2013 song with a burning passion so to hear a new version of it that is somehow even better is a blessing. #blessthismess 'violet' is another standout.myeah, the vocals are reverbed out. i like reverb, so cool with me. but if you're not a fan of it you should probably listen to real life instead, particularly in soundproofed small-medium sized rooms.

Grace is fucking great, keep replaying that one

the bass is the best part of this lp

Loving Ruins tonight. Its so great. Everything she does is gold.

someone asked me if helen would tour. i laughed and then became very sad

"Allison" and "Violet" FTW

Why wouldn't they tour? Seem to be getting some heat on this LP, hell even Eternal Tapestry gets to Europe every couple years.

pretty sure that liz harris hates touring, she hasn't done it since 2009. she does a run of gigs here and there, but never more than half a dozen at a time.

really like the HELEN album but listening to "wind return" right now thinking she could make 1000 more songs like this and i'd be happy

i dunno if/how she'll ever top 'Alien Observer'... every second of that record is perfect... honestly makes me cry just thinking about it

I've seen her live like...seven, eight times? She seemed to play New York a ton and I've seen her twice in the bay area now, only been here about a year. Not sure if Helen live at Budoakan is imminent but an east coast run, a west coast run, why not? Some other thing she's doing: http://hollywoodforever.ticketfly.com/event/964063-bug-earth-liz-harris-los-angeles/

fao karl malone
http://momaps1.org/sundaysessions/grouper-and-william-basinski-live/

i saw her do hypnosis display a couple months back but this mentions an entirely new set of material

i forgot to reply to that, schlump, but i went! and it was great! first time seeing grouper, and basinksi was amazing as well, although his set hewed a lot closer to the recorded material (cascade, and he also did one of the disintegration loops as an encore)

the whole thing is looping here: https://boilerroom.tv/session/grouper-william-basinski-live-at-moma-ps1/
(looping meaning you can't skip forward or backward in the set)

i saw basinski a little while ago in london - he was great, and his fashion was extremely bold.

as for grouper, she played for about an hour, and although there wasn't any silence at any point (iirc) there were definitely 3 main arcs to it. i thought i heard elements of her released music in there, but a lot of it seemed new as well, and of course there were improvised live vocals and keyboards over the top.

it was an interesting space as well, the geodesic dome in the courtyard. i didn't think it could hold so many people, but it did. everyone just kind of naturally found their spot and sat down on the carpet upon entry, but just before grouper played the organizers told everyone to stand up, but also that they could sit down later if they wanted to. i think the reasoning behind this was to have everyone stand and move in closer to take up less space so everyone could get inside, but it confused some people into thinking they weren't allowed to sit. despite this, a movement to sit down started spreading through the crowd, beginning at the left edge and creeping toward the middle-back like a welcome contagious disease. unfortunately it didn't hit our section until just before she finished playing. then she finished, and everyone stood up again. then during the wait between sets, everyone sat down again. as soon as basinski walked on stage, all the people on the front row immediately stood up (????) but then a courageous sitter in the back yelled 'HEY! SIT DOWN! EVERYBODY SIT DOWN!' whoever that person wins the Pontiac Real Driving Excitement Attendee of the Show award, because then everyone sat down for the rest of the show and it was just blissful.

^the most detailed recounting of the sitting down and standing up at the grouper/william basinski show on the entire internet^

bonus highlight: during basinksi's set, the guy next to me was snoring incredibly loudly and rhythmically, once every 4 or 5 seconds. as 'Cascade' continued its long fade and got more and more quiet, his snores became more audible to everyone in the area. The piece concluded and there was complete silence (it was a great crowd tbh, very respectful) and then ---**SNSNOOOOOORRREEEEEGGGhhhhhghhhHHhh___ghhhhhhhhhh---. it was really, really funny. a great juxtaposition of the beauty of basinski's music along with its practical effects

I really wish I could have made it to that!!