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I see that wakefield kirkgate station is finally getting done?

Paying 20 quid per ticket to enter a 'Yorkshire's Magical Winterland' only to see it fail miserably or get cancelled all together is pretty Real England to me. You paid up knowing, or should've known, it would fail miserably in the first place tbh. 20 quid magical winterlands don't happen in Yorkshire. It get's cold there, for sure, but it's a cold you can do without. If you throw 20 quid towards a spectacle this unlikely, yes, that is Real Englang to me tbh.

lol truth

listening to marmozets cos of the end of year thread and it made me wonder what bingley was like

Notable people

The Ickeringill family, which included the noted Chartists Isaac Ickeringill (b. 1803) and his brother George (b. 1810) [10][11] and Ira Ickringill (spelling accurate) (b. 1836), the Bradford mill founder,[12] inventor and Mayor of Keighley,[13] were born, raised and lived in Bingley.
Percy Vear Professional Boxer. Born Crossflatts, Bingley, July 12, 1911
Fred Hoyle Astronomer. Born Bingley, 24 June 1915
John Braine Author of Room at the Top. Worked in Bingley Library until 1942.
Chris Spence Journalist. Born Bingley 8 June 1970
Peter Sutcliffe Serial Killer. Born Bingley 2 June 1946
Rodney Bewes Actor, most famous role Bob Ferris in The Likely Lads. Born in Bingley 27 November 1938.
Muriel Aked Actress, born 9 November 1887 in Bingley, died 21 March 1955 in Settle.[14]
Pat Kirkwood Musical theatre actress, lived in Bingley in her later years.[15]
William Twiss, (1745–1827), Royal Engineer and designer of the Martello Tower, lived in Bingley on retirement and is buried in All Saints Church, Bingley.
Marmozets Band formed in Bingley in 2011.

RIP White Van Dan. Nov 2014-Nov 2014.

pretty lol when it dawned on Murdoch press that giving this guy exposure was just making people think Thornberry otm.

xp
quite a lot on Bingley's bingleyness at the start of gordon burn's book on the ripper.

Serious question: can anyone point to an example of one of these 'Winter Wonderland' type things that hasn't been a hilariously cynical rip off organised by career criminals?

dude, christmas is a hilariously cynical rip off organised by career criminals tbh

Winterland, 'ever get the feeling you've been cheated?' lol

xp: ur like the guy in the story who didn't like christmas and was mean but then something happened and he did like christmas and being kind after all

Jesus IIRC

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article4795694.ece/alternates/s1227b/Yorkshires-Magical-Winterland-in-Harrogate.jpg

Shout out to leggings and foofy boots in background

xp: ur like the guy in the story who didn't like christmas and was mean but then something happened and he did like christmas and being kind after all

i thought of the funniest response to that, then i googled it and 33,000 other clowns had got there first

Serious question: can anyone point to an example of one of these 'Winter Wonderland' type things that hasn't been a hilariously cynical rip off organised by career criminals?

Hyde Park Winter Wonderland? Like obvs it's a rip-off etc, but it's v v pro, probably does what it says,

london is not real england

i had no idea there were so many of these things.
liking the Chester one, sponsored by MBNA card services and ft. Matalan's Grotto.

Real Englanders definitely visit Hyde Park's Winter Wonderland, though: I'm trying to make sure my visiting cousin realises that, mainly so I don't have to go there.

Much of the Hyde Park infrastructure seems to have been imported wholesale from Germany, which goes some way towards explaining the professionalism. People seem to enjoy it - but there are no upfront ticket costs so you need to gull people into buying overpriced chestnuts via a good customer experience rather than gulling them into buying tickets for up front for a dog dressed as a reindeer.

Much of the Hyde Park infrastructure seems to have been imported wholesale from Germany

Would say Xmas has been getting very Ersatz indeed what wif all these Xmas markets everywhere

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n24/james-meek/worse-than-a-defeat

http://i.imgur.com/B0bLaUf.png

thought some of the unfamiliar might enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5o1SCETBRc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6dW-Cr3S1U

Huddersfield 1990

Lol That is Deighton where I was born and raised. Later in the doc there is a mixed race dude called Leon who is a self confessed house burglar, he talks about a botched burglary where the tenant wakes up and he makes a daft comment like "the dirty bastard was sleeping in his socks". Not long after this doc was made he was kidnapped by a serious Mancunian drug dealer (for some ridiculous failed drugs robbery fiasco) who kept him prisoner for weeks and tortured him, beat the crap every day.
There is a real nasty fucker on here who plays the benevolent community leader, he is one of the most repulsive thugs I have known, apart from the serial killer I went to school with from neighbouring Bradley!

I'm not talking about your clip obv. I mean the full length doc

At a point in the late 90's I ended up managing the bookies at the top of Deighton Rd. Most dangerous job I ever had, I got coshed on the head and a robber shot at the ceiling above me in the same month once. Death threats were the norm on a daily basis but that was just bantz! The guy who shot at me, shot himself the next day when surrounded by WYP armed response guns and there was an eerie whispering campaign by his family that I was at fault for his death for talking to the police. Not been back there since tbh and the bookies got closed by WYP because of drug related shit.

I know this far fetched but it is the truth!

sounds

fuuuck

the first thing i think of in that documentary, same as anything from 90-93 or so that i see these days whether factual or fictional or wherever it is set, is how old it seems

that is a tautology because it should seem old, it's just that realization that it has gone from something like like a living past that is still contiguous with the present to a latent archival past, a separate epoch that is as irrecoverable as the 70s or the 50s

i'd have been sat there in a motorcycle helmet all day if that was me xp

and when i say 'there', i actually mean 'at home, preferably somewhere under my bed'

Jesus Xelab!

And my word... That Huddersfield Estate doc is absolutely amazing. I need to find a full copy w/ better sound of that. Simply amazing. Chills.

that burglar kid is quite handsome, at least when placed next to his friend with the chris waddle italia 90 look

xxxxp I've thought about this a lot recently. I was 20 in 1994, and life back then seemed a lot closer to living in 1974 than 1994 seems to 2014. I think about the kind of thing that adults did in 1994 compared to now, and it just feels like something from one of those fly-on-the-wall BBC documentaries. Early 2000s are starting to take on that feeling of being in the past although to a lesser extent. If people from 2004 were brought forward to the present minds would be blown, but people from 1994 would still be gibbering at the sight of an iPad two weeks later.

idk if i posted this documentary before but even 1996 here seems like a long time ago, mostly because the accents seem to owe more to the distant past than to the present, and though that always seemed like such a longue durée process, it evidently isn't and it shifts rapidly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvFKh_3evC8

the horrid old examiner cunt especially seems like something from the 50s

That documentary on the Knowledge is an exception, but a lot of BBC programmes from the early 90s have this almost RP narration.

yes i think i remember some factoid about 3% of people speaking RP but if ever that were true, it isn't any more, save for a few people of advancing years virtually nobody now speaks with those classical reithian intonations

I Just re-watched the The Estate for the first time in decades, it's all different to how I remembered it! And I made comments that referred to a different doc that is related to the local riots in Brackenhall in the 90's, can't find it yet. Also Chris Waddle said stuff I thought Leon said.

the first thing i think of in that documentary, same as anything from 90-93 or so that i see these days whether factual or fictional or wherever it is set, is how old it seems

that is a tautology because it should seem old, it's just that realization that it has gone from something like like a living past that is still contiguous with the present to a latent archival past, a separate epoch that is as irrecoverable as the 70s or the 50s

this, from 1990, looking back at the 60s. as long ago now as it is from its own subject matter. it can be difficult to see past things like the faded film quality, but the delivery has that sort of paternalist feel. the cars are striking,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46QUXfghQZk

Deller's re-enactment of the battle of orgreave, almost as long ago as it is to the real orgreave (only just started watching it though - re-enactments add another level of confusion though).

Documentaries about wakefield in 91 looking another era, 98 looked closer to now than to 91

Accents of old people on the british library site

Listening to an 90 year old huddersfield man in 1994, recognizable. an 80 year old golcar man in 1974 sounding almost west country, didnt even code as yorkshire really

Did you previously live in West Yorkshire anvil?

previously and currently!

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Gimme your own story anvil, or not, but would be genuinely interested to hear your connection with the area.

https://tpc.googlesyndication.com/simgad/6634059331615996275

oh don't click that