― Ronald Thomas Clontle (ghostface), Monday, 19 September 2005 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― paulhw (paulhw), Monday, 19 September 2005 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link
These guys sucked
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 10:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Tory turncoat scum, the lot of them.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 10:41 (sixteen years ago) link
They are Tories because.......??
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 12:37 (sixteen years ago) link
I mean, if all traditional typical English working class culture is Tory these days, then the future of Labour seems black if Labour has to rely upon the votes of immigrants only....
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 12:38 (sixteen years ago) link
stick to the music geir. Please.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 12:42 (sixteen years ago) link
then the future of Labour seems black
Is this a Norwegian pun?
― Tom D., Tuesday, 8 January 2008 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Anyone who says "dud" is the nemesis of fun,
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 13:23 (sixteen years ago) link
They played at the 50th birthday party of the Conservative Party treasurer. They had a choice.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 13:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I've been waiting for this from Dom for years. Strange, this moment just arrived now. And naturally, Dom's wrong.
― zeus, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link
There isn't a great deal of fun in the later works of Madness.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 09:43 (sixteen years ago) link
If you are speaking post-comeback, no.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 11:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Dom is Rong. Suggs was good on the Paul Morley thingum last night. Last couple of Madness albums (pre split) were bleak in places, but still great records...
― stevie, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 11:50 (sixteen years ago) link
You feeling Suggs as a Virgin Radio drivetime DJ, big man?
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm feeling killing Suggs for those twatting fish finger adverts.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 11:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Shows you how bad that Morley thing must have been if Tory Suggs was the best he could manage.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Is he out as a Tory or are we just running an exciting McCarthyite witchhunt? Which I'm totally cool with by the way.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Presumably, Madness' agency booked them for the gig, so it's more about "were they violently opposed to whoever it was" as opposed to "are card carrying tories" right?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Suggs, the Madness frontman, chaired a special Question Time for local teenagers at Camden Town Hall earlier this week as part of Local Democracy Week.
Over 50 teenagers from schools and youth organisations across Camden fired questions at a panel of Councillors representing the Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrats parties. Among the topics covered in a very lively discussion were education funding, leisure facilities, voting for 16 year olds, anti social behaviour, environmental issues and how relevant politics was to ordinary people.
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Tory Suggs commented that the party gave them an opportunity to see "how the other half lived."
But they took the thirty thousand pieces of silver and THEY HAD A PRINCIPLED CHOICE
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh I didn't read upthread. OK cool Tory Scum. Ban.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:08 (sixteen years ago) link
they are pay cheque whores though aren't they. they have always moaned about how during their peak years they were all broke and got ripped off by Stiff (though having 7 members in a band is always going to make the money a lot less per person) and always go on about it via little digs here and there (video commentaries), so i'd suggest that this was just a way to earn a few extras. as for the music - well i still think that Wonderful is just that. I hate the Party Pleasers a lot, but as i stated ago up there ^^^ i still love this band.
xpost : oh fair enough. they are tory twats.
― mark e, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:09 (sixteen years ago) link
The sight of Suggs gurning and doing his jerky dad-can't-dance dance in a Phil Jupitus cast-off big loud suit, singing Cecilia on TOTP in the mid 90s still haunts me for some reason.
Morley was right though, My Girl wasn't a bad song.
― DavidM, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Tracey Ullman's version is better though.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 12:14 (sixteen years ago) link
i would listen to suggs drivetime djing if he did not play anything off their playlist.
― stevie, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Madness represent archetypical North London Cockney culture, and I guess for some people that is automatically Tory as it is so typically English in a traditional way.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 13:14 (sixteen years ago) link
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7201/geirbotee0.jpg
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Geir, you're a moron.
― stevie, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 13:21 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 13:14 (17 minutes ago) Link
http://www.freewebs.com/gutman/sabo2.JPG
"This is a chemist not a joke shop"
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 13:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Does anyone have any ill-informed opinions about Norway they'd like to get off their chest?
― Neil S, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link
As regards the thread title, total Classic.
Having written the likes of Return of the Las Palmas 7, Our House, Embarrassment, One Better Day and House of Fun, they can be forgiven a bit of middle-age toryism, if indeed that is the case. There must be a thread somewhere about the political skeletons in one's record collection...
I enjoyed the Paul Morley programme, by the way, and I found Suggs' contribution thoughtful and insightful.
― Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link
they can be forgiven a bit of middle-age toryism, if indeed that is the case.
is there any more evidence of middle-age toryism on their part than rote Marcello witch-hunting? i don't think its cool they played that gig. i also don't think it makes em tories, or invalidates their previous activism/writing.
― stevie, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link
What's Marcello got to do with all of this?
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.mdk-design.com/images/blog/guyincognito.png
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Phil O'Donnell morelike
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link
*frowns*
xp EXACTLY dom
― stevie, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link
It'th a mythtery.
Anyway all middle aged Tories should be rounded up and shipped to Kenya, same as the rest of them. Especially traitors like Madness and their domed Cameron-loving audience.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Guy Incognito OTM
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link
SUCKS morelike
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link
No, I meant your last comment was on the money, "Dingbat".
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link
In a 1979 NME interview, Madness member Chas Smash was quoted as saying "We don't care if people are in the NF as long as they're having a good time."
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link
And then they recorded "Don't quote me on that" as a comment on that, um, Quote.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm waiting for that ARE MADNESS RACISTS?! thread. Will be great fun!
― zeus, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link
You know what's really pretty "One Better Day".
Watching them play "The Sun And The Rain" was a highlight of my Glastonbury 09 experience.
People don't really talk about "Return Of The Los Palmas 7" though do they? It got into the top 10. Think about that for a mo. A self-consciously cheesey instrumental muzak cha-cha-cha that isn't really designed for dancing like "One Step Beyond" was. It just quietly rounds off "Absolutely" - an afterthought. It's as if Blur had released "The Debt Collector" and it had got really popular. I wasn't really around at the time to witness it charting, but was this considered weird practice at the time?
― dog latin, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Return of the Los Palmas 7 didn't seem weird at the time. Perhaps because they had previously had a hit with an intrumental and another semi-instrumental but more likely because in the UK pop charts, novelty is king and you never know what form it's going to take. Madness were on Stiff Records - an indie who would take chances that major record labels might not.
― everything, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Coincidentally, Absolutely and 7 were reissued today in 2CD deluxe versions.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I had Absolutely on vinyl when I was a kid.
― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link