it's the version of it i first encountered
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link
watching the fallon performance, seems they figured out the way to make the dropped key not sound awkward is just to play it really fast
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 14:25 (nine years ago) link
http://youtu.be/Ucxl4K2LlTY
― maura, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link
whoops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucxl4K2LlTY
hey look it's suzanne vega
― maura, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 14:53 (nine years ago) link
haha nice
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 14:59 (nine years ago) link
Would have preferred Blood Makes Noise anyway.
― american tail/american pie (how's life), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:06 (nine years ago) link
I wish I could get into this band because so many of the critics I respect and agree with more than any other are into them, but my aversion is so visceral and immediate.
This album does sound less like having locker room jocks ask "why do you keep hitting yourself?" than the last one, though, so I guess that's something?
― Evan R, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link
Really? I'd say it's precisely the opposite.
― american tail/american pie (how's life), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
Their opening act on the upcoming tour is frat-rapper Hoodie Allen.
― american tail/american pie (how's life), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
I think this one scales back the mock-Bon Jovi, beer can crushing production a little bit
― Evan R, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
the video for AB/AP is repulsive
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link
?
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link
DON'T YOU REMEMBER HOW WE USED TO SPLIT A DRINK?IT NEVER MATTERED WHAT IT WASI THINK
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
lol i love that line
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
our hands were just that close
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
if you knewknewwhat the bluebirds sing at youyouwould never sing along
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
^^^^^^^^
― Tim F, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link
havent bought this yet not sure i will even, don't like centuries @ all but kids arent all right is a jam
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 24 January 2015 04:27 (nine years ago) link
ABAP hot takes:
"Irrestistible" – Great lead track, comes out swinging full power, clenched teeth, hooks for days. Something military about it, might be off-putting for some, but I'm enjoying the firepower.
"American Beauty, American Psycho" – Some fun bits, but blech, irritating as fuck. Can't imagine this succeeding as a single. To the extent that I can hear the drumming, it sounds great :D/D:
"Centuries" – The suffocating, grotesquely cloying downside of Tim's "they added too much bombast to ordinary songs until they exploded, and then they pieced together new songs out of the shards" formulation. Pushing real damn hard for an early call on the year's worst video, too. Fuck FOB.
"The Kids Aren't Alright" – Okay, this is more like it. Lovely vocal performance from Stump. Digestible bombast/content ratio.
"Uma Thurman" – The "Munsters Theme" has a deathless grip on my brain's pleasure centers, one of my all-time favorite musical anythings, so I'm stupid with happy at odd intervals during this otherwise merely brilliant song. Up there with "This Ain't a Scene" as a one-track band summary.
"Jet Pack Blues" – The mid-tempo tracks might be taking this. Just beautiful.
"Novocaine" – Is there any contemporary rock band more dependent on "weird noises" for their appeal? Not faulting the band, I like weird noises, just asking. Decent song, though I'm starting to experience boldness fatigue, a Slim Jim snapping in a human face, forever.
"Fourth of July" – Not that I was expecting a ballad…
"Favorite Record" – Like "Jet Pack Blues" a demonstration that pulled punches sometimes hit harder. Hugely welcome after two tracks of beatdown slog.
"Immortals" – Figured from the title that this would suck in the decisive manner of "Centuries", but it's goddam awesome. Music by which to make rash decisions. Hey, we should drive to Vegas, get married, and not tell anyone. Like right now.
"Twin Skeleton's (Hotel in NYC)" – Nice closer, though not an immediate favorite. Danny Elfman soundtrack vibes.
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 January 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:04 AM (3 days ago)
yeah, it's as gross as the "centuries" vid, tho in a different way.
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 January 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
lol so "centuries" becomes weirdly seductive on repeat listens, and it definitely should if you like "immortals" ffs
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link
they announced a show in Concord, couple hrs from here
cmon boys, i love you but can i plz get a show closer to home?
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link
might skip this tour unless they've suddenly flooded their setlist with folie songs, although "ab/ap" from videos seems awesome live
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
although this is the second time in two years fob is playing jones beach two days before my birthday, just with wiz khalifa subbed for paramore :\
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link
they announced a show in l.a., couple thousand miles from here
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 24 January 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
Think this is okay, not as good as SRNR, don't look the songs where they trade in menace (hidden or otherwise) for goof like the title track
Uma Thurman is a fine track
Hope that this grows up on me
― 龜, Saturday, 24 January 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
*like
Think I just want a few tracks that are as immediately bombastic as RTT or SRNR :(
― 龜, Saturday, 24 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
felt the same way but realized the tracks that serve that want are "kids aren't alright" and "fourth of july"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
ugh i guess i'm listening to this record again
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
Listening to 4OJ rn and it is beginning to reveal its glories to me
― 龜, Saturday, 24 January 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
somehow missed that ellen video maura posted but patrick should continue to consider not wearing his fedora
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
Secretly hope that Twin Skeleton's is about Best line from TripAdvisor reviews of the Hotel Carter in NYC
― 龜, Saturday, 24 January 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
rewatching the ab/ap video and failing to find it uh repulsive
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 January 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
"centuries" video is definitely miscalculated and overwrought yeah
The stench/the stench/of summer sex/and ck eternity/oh hell yes
:S
― 龜, Saturday, 24 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
i can't speak to tracer's revulsion, but i'm put off by emo's fundamental relationship construction, where a woman's job is to be so devastatingly wicked gorgeous that the poor, angst-filled sucker she's entrapped will willingly (if wrathfully) endure her gender's inevitable perfidy, generating grist for his next batch of art tantrums. she glows darkly, he suffers tunefully, blah blah blah. squares way too neatly with gross, self-pitying MRA bullshit.
video seems to enact this, with the lovely toybox image of the pretty ballerina suckering innocent boys into a depiction of love as a deathmatch. in the end, with our face-painted protagonist bloodied in defeat, she readies her trap for a new victim. "altar boys, altar boys, we're the thing that love destroys." fuck off.
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 January 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link
that strain in emo is why i welcome the jocky qualities in fob discussed above: the wentzvoice never lacks selfconfidence and is more rueful than angry about relationship fuckups. it fetishizes the mutual violence in love (that video misses the mutual part) which is prob unhealthy in a rocknroll tradition of unhealthiness but not necc misog imo, and also not incompatible with having a good time. in comparison something like dashboard often sounds to me like the underground man w a guitar: toxically uncomfortable with himself. (i don't know dashboard v well maybe this is unfair.) i was going to say fob's objectification/essentialization of girlz is more like mick jagger's but then i thought nah there's nothing even as nasty as "stupid girl" or "back street girl" or even as outright domineering as "under my thumb" that i can think of in their catalog. they're more like an entire band of "bitch".
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 24 January 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
yeah, that's fair (+ insightful). i don't have a problem with FOB's gender politics, generally speaking, just that particular video.
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
yeah outright grossness in FOB is fairly rare, though I do always megacringe at "let's get you wasted and alone" in "Death Valley"
― Simon H., Saturday, 24 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
YOU LOOK SO GOOD IN BLUE also prob.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 24 January 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
well i dunno. yours is worse.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 24 January 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
i dunno, I always get the impression that the FOB narrative character is suffering and kinda loves it, there's a masochistic quality which is threaded by the (sometimes explicit, sometimes implied) awareness that he has also made her/you suffer as well and so at some level has decided he deserves the punishment.
I don't think this is healthy or admirable at all but it seems to me to be quite different from MRA bullshit.
― Tim F, Saturday, 24 January 2015 22:07 (nine years ago) link
i agree! FOB, for the most part, steer quite nimbly around the worst excesses invited by the genre's "arrgh, she woundeth!" core. they're more about the thrill of surrender than petulant seething. it's the video i was kvetching about.
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 January 2015 01:14 (nine years ago) link
even despite pete's grossness over time I still read this video as being about toxic masculinity so idk
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 January 2015 02:13 (nine years ago) link
that may be, interpretation is always dicey ¯\(°_°)/¯
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 January 2015 02:36 (nine years ago) link
https://40.media.tumblr.com/94352aeeb0ef1214b2786f45e1e791e8/tumblr_niaw62CXjB1tkq59qo1_500.jpg
― how's life, Sunday, 25 January 2015 14:04 (nine years ago) link
haha wow i never realized that cover was all photograph and not photoshop
― diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Sunday, 25 January 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link
wtf
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 January 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link