http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/16/us/florida-black-male-sniper-targets/
― 龜, Friday, 23 January 2015 14:27 (nine years ago) link
Wow, that NYPD article. Do they engage in hazing and justify this stuff as part of that?
Once again, NYPD: your behavior affects how police are regarded across the country. If you can't recognize that, you shouldn't have a job.
― SCOTTISH PEOPLE ONLY (I M Losted), Friday, 23 January 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link
This is hardcore
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/01/25/florida-police-used-mugshots-of-black-men-for-target-practice-clergy-responded-usemeinstead/?hpid=z5
― how's life, Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
This is a wonderful response.
― Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
Good for the clergy, and holy shit on that practice. I'm also kind of boggled at the odds of one of the mugshots being the brother of the National Guardswoman who discovered this, but that's a secondary-level shock/putting myself in her shoes.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link
That should tell you more about the criminalization of black life than anything else
― Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Sunday, 25 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
nice
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 January 2015 05:30 (nine years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/26/opinion/charles-blow-at-yale-the-police-detained-my-son.html
― Andy K, Monday, 26 January 2015 13:21 (nine years ago) link
How could a Yale student "fit the description" of a burglary suspect? I'll bet he doesn't. What horseshit, I hope the ACLU gets involved or they sue. It's not likely that a white Yale student would have a DEADLY WEAPON pointed at them.
― SCOTTISH PEOPLE ONLY (I M Losted), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link
How could a Yale student "fit the description" of a burglary suspect?
one guess
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link
going with "ascot"
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 January 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
It just sounds too much like too many stories where some white person fingers an innocent black man. The police always expect the victim to "understand" in these circumstances. Doh, police - people aren't used to having guns pointed at them. Period. No one should have to be traumatized because you failed to find the right guy. Plus what that cop said, "we got him," was so smug. NO YOU DID NOT GeT HIM.
― SCOTTISH PEOPLE ONLY (I M Losted), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
It just sounds too much like too many stories where some white person fingers an innocent black man.
I'm sorry, I stopped reading here due to immature giggling
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
lol
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
http: //www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/news/communities/da-drops-most-serious-charges-against-nj-woman-in-bucks/article_a1d284cd-e792-5ae3-a1c3-9c1bebad4589.html
― 龜, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 12:47 (nine years ago) link
http://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/news/communities/da-drops-most-serious-charges-against-nj-woman-in-bucks/article_a1d284cd-e792-5ae3-a1c3-9c1bebad4589.html
Update on this girl http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2014/09/former_high_school_star_athlete_charged_with_aggravated_assault_in_triple_hit-and-run_incident.html
― 龜, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 12:48 (nine years ago) link
can we PLEASE talk about these things here instead of the Ferguson thread?
btw ppl with interest in cop killings should read the recent new yorker piece on the ABQ police department
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/02/son-deceased
― k3vin k., Thursday, January 29, 2015 10:56 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there's a shock
I know right? could it be any more stereotypical
― Οὖτις, Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:05 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That New Yorker article is fucking insane
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:07 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― polyphonic, Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:40 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
dude literally walking by on the phone
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:45 AM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:48 AM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Should probably go in the police brutality/corruption thread but: http://gawker.com/seattle-pd-sorry-about-arresting-70-year-old-black-vete-1682456896/
― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:53 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha ha at that little fireplug cop in polyphonic's video. What a mental case.
― how's life, Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:58 AM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
But yeah, the other thread for this, guys.
― how's life, Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:58 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that NYer article is seriously depressing
― Nhex, Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:15 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:07 AM (1 hour ago)
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:42 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and depressing, yeah
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― brain floss mix (sleeve), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
hey, NYC just created a 350-cop unit equipped with MACHINE GUNS, and guess how our respected Broken Windows Commish sees them being used?
This new squad will be used to investigate and combat terrorist plots, lone wolf terrorists, and... protests. "It is designed for dealing with events like our recent protests, or incidents like Mumbai or what just happened in Paris," Bratton said, according to CBS.
http://gothamist.com/2015/01/29/nypd_machine_guns.php
MANIAC.
io, did this come up in today's Riverside Church teach-ins? Cuz I feel murder in the air.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 31 January 2015 02:00 (nine years ago) link
ugh.
I wonder if these are the same machine guns they took off of criminals in very reckless-sounding sting operations in "remote, nonresidential areas" (that is, near housing projects) (as merrily reported by the Times, see even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread )
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 31 January 2015 05:41 (nine years ago) link
the cops said 'scuse me' on the protest angle. we'll see... interesting 'slip' from Bratton if so.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/separate-nypd-unit-handle-large-scale-protests-article-1.2098051
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 31 January 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
It was mentioned in passing in the session I attended, I don't know what was said in the other workshops. But it's exactly the kind of thing The Gathering was designed to collaborate against obv.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Saturday, 31 January 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
The presenter I went to see is great and seems like an amazing person, btw, but one drawback of "collaborative" structured workshops is that if some RCP flunky wants to talk for 10 minutes about why capitalism is the problem, it's not that I necessarily disagree w him on everything but I didn't go there to learn from unshaven white 26-yo dude whose voice is everywhere already.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Saturday, 31 January 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
ah yes the q&a, the portion of the panel discussion where the mic is extended to the speechmakers in the audience
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 2 February 2015 06:14 (nine years ago) link
jesus fucking christ
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/officials-gastonia-police-officer-involved-fatal-s/nj6t8/
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 03:50 (nine years ago) link
"“The law is very clear that a law enforcement officer may use deadly force to defend himself when they’re confronted with what appears to be an eminent threat,” Maclatchie said
It's the officer's job to use force to get inside the home, if they've made every effort to get the person to come to the door, he said."
yeah who'da thunk forcing your way into someone's house at midnight woulda alarmed them ¯\(°_o)/¯
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 03:52 (nine years ago) link
http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/02/statement_from_ann_arbor_polic.html
No charges for this white cop. He didn't feel a need to use his gun while a knife-wielding black woman and black man were in physical struggle with one another, but once the woman started walking toward HIM, hey...
(His partner used a taser "at the same time.")
― Andy K, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:29 (nine years ago) link
From another article: The knife was described as a black-handled kitchen knife with an approximate 4-inch blade.
...
― Andy K, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:46 (nine years ago) link
I know lots of people who lived in Ann Arbor and have never heard anything but awful horror stories about Ann Arbor cops being horrible and usually incredibly racist guys who often came from places like Howell which had a pretty strong KKK presence.
― joygoat, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link
"Roughed up" -- just a little tussle!
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/02/indian_citizen_stopped_by_madi.html
Madison police last week roughed up a 57-year-old Indian citizen who was walking on the sidewalk outside his son's home, leaving the older man temporarily paralyzed and hospitalized with fused vertebrae."He was just walking on the sidewalk as he does all the time," said his son, Chirag Patel, this morning. "They put him to the ground."No crime had been committed. Madison Police on Monday issued a statement saying the department had suspended the officer and were investigating the use of force in this case. The police statement wished the man a "speedy recovery."
"He was just walking on the sidewalk as he does all the time," said his son, Chirag Patel, this morning. "They put him to the ground."
No crime had been committed. Madison Police on Monday issued a statement saying the department had suspended the officer and were investigating the use of force in this case. The police statement wished the man a "speedy recovery."
― Andy K, Thursday, 12 February 2015 01:59 (nine years ago) link
http://www.kmov.com/news/crime/Officer-allegedly-shoots-unarmed-suspect-does-not-report-incident-291785451.html
After the shot was fired, the suspect allegedly fell, got back up and took off. Simmons maintains the suspect was unarmed and was not posing a threat.
When asked by officials, the policeman said his gun went off accidentally and that he just didn't think about reporting it. The suspect was not hit by the officer's bullet, according to authorities.
― Andy K, Friday, 13 February 2015 14:38 (nine years ago) link
don't worry guys, that whole thing about cops being racist is just a myth:"Cops are being beaten up, literally, from coast to coast by unruly demonstrators destroying property and injuring police officers. To perpetuate the myth that racism is a systemic problem in police department's throughout the Unites States is wrong and untrue." - Gaqry Delagnes, former union president who is now a consultant for the POA, in an e-mail sent to an SF Supervisor
http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/police-union-strong-arms-board-of-supervisors-over-controversial-resolution-on-police-brutality-protests/Content?oid=2920037
whole thing is a tempest in a teapot but that line made me so angry
― Οὖτις, Friday, 13 February 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/2015/02/12/2d48052c-b270-11e4-854b-a38d13486ba1_story.html
Lane’s family said the teen did not own a BB gun. They also said that the video appeared to show police tossing an object toward Briscoe’s body where part of a gun was recovered. Police were gloved, and there were no fingerprints on the gun.Such tactical units are known among some residents in high-crime city neighborhoods as “jump-outs,” initiating confrontational encounters similar to such practices as New York’s scaled-back “stop-and-frisk” policy.The four members of Leo’s team testified that in a typical encounter, they were in plainclothes and patrolling in a roving, unmarked car when they pulled up to Briscoe and asked him whether he was armed, because he was “walking quick” and “looking around.” When he did not answer and walked, then ran, away, they chased him.Critics say such encounters — so intrusive that Leo and other officers acknowledged that residents, when they see officers approaching, lift up their shirts to show that they are unarmed— are unlawful because officers lack reasonable suspicion to stop a citizen and are a form of racial profiling that disproportionately incarcerates minorities for low-level offenses.
Such tactical units are known among some residents in high-crime city neighborhoods as “jump-outs,” initiating confrontational encounters similar to such practices as New York’s scaled-back “stop-and-frisk” policy.
The four members of Leo’s team testified that in a typical encounter, they were in plainclothes and patrolling in a roving, unmarked car when they pulled up to Briscoe and asked him whether he was armed, because he was “walking quick” and “looking around.” When he did not answer and walked, then ran, away, they chased him.
Critics say such encounters — so intrusive that Leo and other officers acknowledged that residents, when they see officers approaching, lift up their shirts to show that they are unarmed— are unlawful because officers lack reasonable suspicion to stop a citizen and are a form of racial profiling that disproportionately incarcerates minorities for low-level offenses.
Very popular Police Chief Cathy Lanier continues to maintain that jump out squads do not exist.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 February 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
Madison police last week roughed up a 57-year-old Indian citizen who was walking on the sidewalk outside his son's home, leaving the older man temporarily paralyzed and hospitalized with fused vertebrae."He was just walking on the sidewalk as he does all the time," said his son, Chirag Patel, this morning. "They put him to the ground."
― Andy K, Wednesday, February 11, 2015 8:59 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/12/us/alabama-police-beating/index.html
Video
― 龜, Friday, 13 February 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link
It's also on the chicago politics thread but i thought might garner some discussion here: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site
― 1staethyr, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link
completely bonkers
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link
how are there not ACLU lawsuits about this already.../
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
yeah, i'm kind of poleaxed by that. read it a few hours ago and couldn't think of anything to say in response. how is it that this story was broken by a non-US source? the major chicago papers must have known about the situation for quite some time, years even. put aside "how could it happen?" handwringing -- how could something like this go unreported for so long? and did it? i quickly dug around for older reporting, but couldn't find anything more than a few hours old. is the guardian report exaggerated or misleading? wtf, basically.
― describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 23:22 (nine years ago) link
yeah I'm kind of skeptical, it's not like there aren't liberal news sources/groups in Chicago that would make it their business to raise alarms about this kind of thing
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 23:29 (nine years ago) link
the major chicago papers must have known about the situation for quite some time, years even.
Not necessarily. The Trib is pretty much gutted, and the Sun-Times is a joke; they wouldn't even think about tackling a story like this.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 23:36 (nine years ago) link
but, but...that toddlin' town
― describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link
lol newspapers that's not really what I was referring to
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 23:44 (nine years ago) link
how is it that this story was broken by a non-US source?
They don't have to worry about repercussions as much as the local media, and as Tarfumes says, most of it is pretty weak.
The other thing is -- something like this doesn't get attention without outrage. Obviously it hasn't had any coverage so that's part of the problem, but there is a sizable portion of the Chicago population (and the USA as a whole, of course) who don't really see this as much of a big deal, and probably support it to a certain extent.
I mean, the wholesale slaughter of black youth has been ongoing for years and no one has really done squat.
― dan m, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 23:53 (nine years ago) link
true, but people do speak out, the stories make the rounds, especially in activist media circles. surprised that hasn't happened here, esp since chicago is a hub for such.
― describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 23:56 (nine years ago) link
Guardian US operates out of NY fwiw
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 23:58 (nine years ago) link
got a birds eye view up there in maine huh xp
― hammer smashed nagls (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:01 (nine years ago) link
stories make the rounds, especially in activist media circles. surprised that hasn't happened here, esp since chicago is a hub for such.
^^^this is what I was thinking, yes
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:01 (nine years ago) link
Guardian has done a lot of reporting on crimes that might get hushed over by local media - see the unsolved 'suicide' in the Carolinas (can't remember if it was South or North) where the shoes they found the kid wearing didn't even match his foot size
It's the state of America right now where we rely on British newspapers to break these stories
― 龜, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:03 (nine years ago) link
um kinda some orders of magnitude of difference there
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:09 (nine years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:01 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Activists have--rightly or wrongly--largely distanced themselves from the NATO 3 as its become apparent, and most of this story hinges on the testimony of one of them. A lot of Chicago anarchists have been talking about this since 2012, but not a lot of people pay attention to Chicago anarchists. He said ruefully.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:50 (nine years ago) link