The Return of Fall Out Boy

Listening to 4OJ rn and it is beginning to reveal its glories to me

somehow missed that ellen video maura posted but patrick should continue to consider not wearing his fedora

Secretly hope that Twin Skeleton's is about Best line from TripAdvisor reviews of the Hotel Carter in NYC

rewatching the ab/ap video and failing to find it uh repulsive

"centuries" video is definitely miscalculated and overwrought yeah

The stench/the stench/of summer sex/and ck eternity/oh hell yes

:S

i can't speak to tracer's revulsion, but i'm put off by emo's fundamental relationship construction, where a woman's job is to be so devastatingly wicked gorgeous that the poor, angst-filled sucker she's entrapped will willingly (if wrathfully) endure her gender's inevitable perfidy, generating grist for his next batch of art tantrums. she glows darkly, he suffers tunefully, blah blah blah. squares way too neatly with gross, self-pitying MRA bullshit.

video seems to enact this, with the lovely toybox image of the pretty ballerina suckering innocent boys into a depiction of love as a deathmatch. in the end, with our face-painted protagonist bloodied in defeat, she readies her trap for a new victim. "altar boys, altar boys, we're the thing that love destroys." fuck off.

that strain in emo is why i welcome the jocky qualities in fob discussed above: the wentzvoice never lacks selfconfidence and is more rueful than angry about relationship fuckups. it fetishizes the mutual violence in love (that video misses the mutual part) which is prob unhealthy in a rocknroll tradition of unhealthiness but not necc misog imo, and also not incompatible with having a good time. in comparison something like dashboard often sounds to me like the underground man w a guitar: toxically uncomfortable with himself. (i don't know dashboard v well maybe this is unfair.) i was going to say fob's objectification/essentialization of girlz is more like mick jagger's but then i thought nah there's nothing even as nasty as "stupid girl" or "back street girl" or even as outright domineering as "under my thumb" that i can think of in their catalog. they're more like an entire band of "bitch".

yeah, that's fair (+ insightful). i don't have a problem with FOB's gender politics, generally speaking, just that particular video.

yeah outright grossness in FOB is fairly rare, though I do always megacringe at "let's get you wasted and alone" in "Death Valley"

YOU LOOK SO GOOD IN BLUE also prob.

well i dunno. yours is worse.

i can't speak to tracer's revulsion, but i'm put off by emo's fundamental relationship construction, where a woman's job is to be so devastatingly wicked gorgeous that the poor, angst-filled sucker she's entrapped will willingly (if wrathfully) endure her gender's inevitable perfidy, generating grist for his next batch of art tantrums. she glows darkly, he suffers tunefully, blah blah blah. squares way too neatly with gross, self-pitying MRA bullshit.

i dunno, I always get the impression that the FOB narrative character is suffering and kinda loves it, there's a masochistic quality which is threaded by the (sometimes explicit, sometimes implied) awareness that he has also made her/you suffer as well and so at some level has decided he deserves the punishment.

I don't think this is healthy or admirable at all but it seems to me to be quite different from MRA bullshit.

i agree! FOB, for the most part, steer quite nimbly around the worst excesses invited by the genre's "arrgh, she woundeth!" core. they're more about the thrill of surrender than petulant seething. it's the video i was kvetching about.

even despite pete's grossness over time I still read this video as being about toxic masculinity so idk

that may be, interpretation is always dicey ¯\(°_°)/¯

https://40.media.tumblr.com/94352aeeb0ef1214b2786f45e1e791e8/tumblr_niaw62CXjB1tkq59qo1_500.jpg

haha wow i never realized that cover was all photograph and not photoshop

wtf

yeah, it's crazy. i never considered that it might be anything but photoshop (or similar) work. hardly thought about it at all, tbh.

http://a585.phobos.apple.com/us/r2000/003/Music/b2/a0/67/mzi.gldpdcvw.600x600-75.jpg

but looking now, it seems so...obvious.

http://i.imgur.com/V1AximV.jpg

good response. i hope Pete has matured to the point now that he regrets the THROWN OUT THE HOOD bit in the "This Ain't A Scene" video.

Definitely more worried about the Hoodie Allen crowd.

hoodie allen fans are definitely terrifying although not for the reason I'm guessing that atrocious woman thinks wiz's crowd is terrifying

she heard that they dem boyz and they makin noise. hol up!

https://therecline.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/hood.jpg

Now I think the stretch from The Kids Aren't Alright -> Favorite record is unfuckwithable

STill udnecide on the rest of lthe ablum

hoodie allen and wiz khalifa have the same fans

...true enough

i am more than a little surprised that hoodie allen has fans, full stop, but then again a few weeks ago sam adams sold out a show in boston at the paradise so i spose it takes all kinds

it's all high school kids from the suburbs, same as wiz

Rock band Fall Out Boy earns its third No. 1 album on the Billboard 200 chart, as American Beauty/American Psycho arrives atop the tally. The Island Records album, which was released on Jan. 20, moved 218,000 equivalent album units in the week ending Jan. 25, according to Nielsen Music.

not too shabby at all

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2015-01-31/fall-out-boy-apologizes-for-centuries-played-during-college-football-playoffs?eadid=SOC%2FFB%2FSNMain

I mean, it was kinda made for that, so I dunno why they feel the need to apologize

are they also gonna apologize for kids aren't all right and favorite record being NBA bumper music on ESPN?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/arts/music/fall-out-boy-on-the-new-album-american-beauty-american-psycho.html?ref=music

Pete, you wrote recently, “Rock should not be relegated to a quaint little corner of Guitar Center for dads to find.” How do you get kids interested again?

Wentz The only way to do it is for kids to be able to see bands that are playing in arenas and amphitheaters that also have current songs being played on the radio. I can think of 10 bands that can sell out arenas, but I’m not sure if kids are buying their music. The future of rock is going to come from kids that listen to Skrillex and to Kanye West. Hopefully they also listen to Fall Out Boy or bands that are playing instruments as well.

Where do you go online to find new music?

Wentz You know how when you were into punk rock you would look at a band’s “thank you” list, and that’s how you would find new bands? The Internet version of that is like, “Who does this person follow on SoundCloud?” or “Who is this D.J. talking to online?” One of my favorite songs of last year was iLoveMakonnen’s “Tuesday,” and I followed it down this rabbit hole to this other remix he did [for “Down 4 So Long”]. Ezra [Koenig] from Vampire Weekend does a verse on it that’s probably one of the funniest and best verses that I’ve heard recently.

I like the interview with them better than songs like "Centuries"

imo the most important thing about that article is the revelation that the "American Beauty" in their album's title refers to the Grateful Dead and not the movie

FALL OUT BOY TO PERFORM ON-FIELD AT WRIGLEY FIELD
AS PART OF MLB OPENING NIGHT ON APRIL 5

Platinum single “Centuries” to be broadcast live on ESPN2

ok, so, this whole version of american beauty/american psycho with tacked-on rap verses is really weird to everyone else, right

zaytoven!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOmkAFP-L8k

the remix of the title track with ferg is i guess an attempt at an actual remix rather than just adding a verse to the song but i mean, do they really think everyone's favorite track on SRAR was "the mighty fall?"

i suppose i cant complain about a zaytoven beat on that irresistible one; also the demi lovato version of that song is interesting

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7393463/ghostbusters-soundtrack-fall-out-boy-with-missy-elliott-elle-king-5-seconds-of-summer

keep forgetting to update this thread with whatever this is http://twitter.com/falloutboy/status/855801666658021378

i'm actually 100 percent thrilled that ilx doesn't activate twitter links anymore

Woah! I was just wondering about them.

The first time I noticed the twitter links thing was when I posted one this morning. I have no idea what's up with that.

anyway whatever this purple thing is i'm hyped enough to have been listening to folie a deux on repeat today

I don't listen to much of AB/AP anymore beyond "Twin Skeletons" tbh