Saturday Night Live

yeah Stuart's directed by Ramis, I'd watch it if it came on tv

okay sorry I had a wonderful time it was awesome I laughed until my sides hurt I hope they weren't too scarred by my earlier comments not that they would know who they were or anything

both of the wayne's world movies are great imo

I have no memory at all of the 2nd one but I'm sure I saw it.

It's Pat has Ween in it and one moment that got a laugh out of me ("Is that a banana in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" "No, it's a banana"), but yes it is extraordinarily bad

I would still probably sit through It's Pat over Blues Brothers 2000.

I have no memory at all of the 2nd one but I'm sure I saw it.

Same.

all I recall are Alice Cooper and a bad Jim Morrison impersonator

hm wait no alice is in the first one right?

yup

best parts i can recall from the second are a few roadie jokes, the garth/kim basinger scenes and christopher walken responding to "asphinctersayswhat?" with "you want me to say 'what' as if I don't know what you said"

I just read the wiki synopsis for WW2 and none of it sounds familiar to me, but there's no way I didn't see it in 1993. I must have blocked it out.

it is a decent time capsule of pop metal guys slowly realizing there was no place for them in the grunge era

well aerosmith did ok

fittingly, there's a scene where wayne promises aerosmith, nirvana and pearl jam at the big free concert and the big victory at the end is just aerosmith

myers wanted neil young and pearl jam doing "rockin in the free world" to be the big single a la "bohemian rhapsody" but neil chickened out and instead they made a video for "I Love Rock'n'Roll" with Joan Jett

I saw Tim Meadows and Chris Farley at Second City Chicago and they were nuclear-bomb funny, to the point where I made a point of remembering their names so I could follow their careers.

― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Me too (saw them/made a point of remembering their names)! They did a hilarious Wrigley Field security guards sketch, the details of which I've forgotten, but it killed.

Re: Second City, getting on the main stage is such a sadly prescribed hoop-jumping process these days (training program, conservatory, Tour Co. and/or the cruise ship circuit, optional Etc. Stage, and then maaaaaybe main stage) that it weeds out all but the most career-minded performers. You'll probably never see another Farley come out of that place. Also, a lot of the material Tour Co. and the cruise troupes do is "classics from the Second City vaults!". Which seems depressing to me, but to each their own. But at any rate, there's probably a reason why more people have come out of iO than SC in recent years.

Funniest thing I remember from Second City Chicago was a sketch with Steve Carell and Stephen Colbert who were playing (I think) a father and son arguing. Colbert said to Carell, "You don't know shit about fuck."

(ok, it was funnier in context/with Colbert's delivery)

No, I can hear Stephen Colbert say that line in my head and it's cracking me up.

And the improv sets were always killer. First SC I went to, the cast included Richard Kind, Bonnie Hunt, and Dan Castellenata. During the shout-out-a-topic part of the improv, someone yelled "bracket creep!" No one knew what the fuck that was, but apparently it was some income tax term. So Hunt comes out and says, "'Bracket Creep' was the nickname my classmates gave me in middle school for my excessive use of parentheses..."

(again, much funnier in person)

Me too (saw them/made a point of remembering their names)! They did a hilarious Wrigley Field security guards sketch, the details of which I've forgotten, but it killed.

OH MY GOD YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES

I just read the wiki synopsis for WW2 and none of it sounds familiar to me, but there's no way I didn't see it in 1993. I must have blocked it out.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:01 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This. I saw it once and barely remember anything

I'm having a hard time imagining Tim Meadows as nuclear-bomb funny. I like him, but that doesn't really seem like his thing.

Funniest thing I remember from Second City Chicago was a sketch with Steve Carell and Stephen Colbert who were playing (I think) a father and son arguing. Colbert said to Carell, "You don't know shit about fuck."

(ok, it was funnier in context/with Colbert's delivery)

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:23 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And the improv sets were always killer. First SC I went to, the cast included Richard Kind, Bonnie Hunt, and Dan Castellenata. During the shout-out-a-topic part of the improv, someone yelled "bracket creep!" No one knew what the fuck that was, but apparently it was some income tax term. So Hunt comes out and says, "'Bracket Creep' was the nickname my classmates gave me in middle school for my excessive use of parentheses..."

(again, much funnier in person)

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:26 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Am I witnessing something here?

I saw Tim Meadows and Chris Farley at Second City Chicago and they were nuclear-bomb funny, to the point where I made a point of remembering their names so I could follow their careers.

― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Me too (saw them/made a point of remembering their names)! They did a hilarious Wrigley Field security guards sketch, the details of which I've forgotten, but it killed.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is on youtube btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwOAIk_HxbY

i was dragged to 2nd city shows three times in the mid-late 1990s and i found them almost completely unfunny :(

That Second City clip a good example of how bad improv can be when there's one guy not pulling his own weight.

Here's another one, from Best of Show. From the DVD commentary, apparently "Jack" was some local who got his one shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiHtd8S_3I4

Norm MacDonald's Twitter breakdown of how last week unfolded is quite something:

http://mashable.com/2015/02/18/norm-macdonald-eddie-murphy-twitter/

ha, that's great!

Norm is the classiest act on twitter.

He should take over prairie home companion

Ha, love this:

We see Eddie from 100 yards away. Rock says, "There he is. Like Ali in Zaire." Eddie, Bomaye.

the teenage whiney still has a serious soft spot for final-season Farley where he was just screaming in front of Janeane Garafalo in every sketch.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/bill-cosby-scandal/bill-cosby-i-applaud-eddie-murphy-refusing-play-me-snl40-n308861

"I never said no filth flarn filth! I don't know what you're talking about! I'm offended that you called! Fuck you!"

take part in a lame bill cosby joke or have it reported you didn't and get a thank you from bill cosby. that's some serious "damned if you do, damned if you don't"

it probly would've been the last time EM did a TV sketch ever, so opting out entirely defensible

read the whole Macdonald thing, and my not-high opinion of him dove further.

MacDonald or Murphy?

Norm

(u know, the guy who called Michael Jackson a "homosexual child molester" on WU once)

EM staying away from SNL for 20 years bcz David Spade called him "a falling star" is multileveled hilarity.

I just noticed this in the 25th season wiki entry. Anyone know if this contract is still used?

In July 1999, when executive producer Lorne Michaels held auditions for the season, NBC introduced a new contract for first-year cast members, replacing the five- or six-year deals they had used in the past.[1] The terms were established by NBC executives Scott Sassa and Garth Ancier. According to Peter Bogdanovich, the new contract came with the following terms:[1]

NBC can take a Saturday Night Live cast member off the show any time after his or her second year on the program and put him or her in an NBC sitcom.
A cast member has the option of saying no to the first two shows proposed by NBC, but must accept the third deal.
NBC dictates the length of the sitcom contract, which can run as long as six years.
SNL Films, co-owned by Paramount Pictures, NBC and Lorne Michaels, has a three-movie option that would pay the star a set $75,000 for the first film, $150,000 for the second and $300,000 for the third, rates that used to be negotiable.
NBC has the option of paying those same amount to force a cast member to say no to a film deal offered to them by another studio.

The starting salary remained $5,000 per episode.[1]

A cast member has the option of saying no to the first two shows proposed by NBC, but must accept the third deal.

This is some Lady or the Tiger doomladen shit

Norm's the funniest standup comic alive and it's not even close

i saw him perform in LA 18 months ago and he wasn't the funniest on the bill

(certainly funnier than he was on SNL, but that's a low bar)

stand-up isn't really Norm's strong suit, I would agree that he's the funniest guy alive who does standup though

I'd totally forgotten until I saw his name in the credits recently that, while he was on SNL, he was also writing for Roseanne during that show's heyday.

so Norm's strong suit is talk-show guest or tweeter, then?

Don't forget 'roaster'.