Lil Jon Needs To Fall Under A Truck

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crunk = crazy + drunk

I guess that makes sense too.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

to be honest alex, your definition has supplanted all others for me

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

make that Simon and Garcrunkel.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

"History is Crunk!"

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:24 (twenty years ago) link

to be honest alex, your definition has supplanted all others for me

Much like Onyx, the Ink Spots are proto-crunk.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

I still maintain that
T.I.'s album Trap Muzik
is the best so far;

but it's not quite "crunk"
the way Lil Jon, Ying Yang are,
neither is Banner

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:43 (twenty years ago) link

Trap Muzik isn't crunk by any definition of the word. When that guy said it was the "southern Illmatic," he was pretty right on. It's tired and [another word] and mostly not in a really good way. It's not bad but it's pretty boring.

― d k (d k), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:53 (twenty years ago) link

No, it's not boring,
and no, it's not tired at all.
He's a great rapper.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:57 (twenty years ago) link

yah, Trap Muzik is pretty un-crunk. though you can still get crunk to it.

― Adrian (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:03 (twenty years ago) link

Honestly, though, given their longstanding allegiance to post-planet-rock electro beats long after the West and East coasts abandoned them, 2 Live Crew and Tag Team and 95 South and the Quad City DJs and L'Trimm and Maggotron and the Hi-Town DJs were all probably way more proto-crunk than Onyx were. Just because Lil Jon's music has gang shouts in it doesn't mean gangshouts are the defining factor of crunk.

― chuck, Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:04 (twenty years ago) link

Trust me, Haikunym. I'll try to put this into indie rock terms for you. Okay, T.I. is like The Strokes of Southern rap. (UGK, Television.) Even if it's the best of the three rap CDs you bought this year and it appeals to people whose experience ended with New York rap/rockist touchstones, it's not that great and it's boring. I'm glad you enjoy it.

― d k (d k), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:18 (twenty years ago) link

dk: stop being a choad

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:19 (twenty years ago) link

Okay. Sorry.

― d k (d k), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:21 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah, and there was also the TNC piece on Banner, though I totally disagreed with him as usual, but in that good constructive sorta disagreeing way, also as usual.

also, from the "playahata.com" dictionary:

Crunk/Krunk: Slang, adj (1)To be enjoyable, usually in reference to a party. (2)to become excited and/or agitated. Primarily used in the Southern, United States.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

but crunk makes me think of crunchy and a trunk, like somebody is jumping up and down on a suitcase and it is making a crunchy noise.

or maybe like an elephant trunk noise.

or maybe crunchy and funk, or crass and a monk!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:07 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.globalbeer.com/diverse/texts/Monk-with-Drink.jpg

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

the trunk of the Caddy where all the subwoofers are kept!

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/103821/1.jpg

― d k (d k), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:26 (twenty years ago) link

My first guess at the etymology of "crunk" was that it was a past-tense form of "crank" - e.g, if something has been cranked up as high as it can go, then it's crunk.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

T.I. is like The Strokes of Southern rap.

meaning it's great! awesome! I'll go out and buy it right now!

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, it also means the likelihood of his actually sounding like the MCs he's accused of ripping off is slim to none.

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:39 (twenty years ago) link

everyone thinks there strokes comparison is the best (everyone maybe right)

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:41 (twenty years ago) link

looking like Television /= sounding like Television

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:02 (twenty years ago) link

the strokes sound more like early blondie than television.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:05 (twenty years ago) link

Some days I wish the Strokes were crunk

(stronk?)

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:06 (twenty years ago) link

Strunk

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:07 (twenty years ago) link

and White

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:08 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not mad, d k,
but I'd like to know why you
think I like the strokes

and why I hate rap
and why I am "indie-rock"...
oh, hell, never mind.

as a matter of fact, you can think whatever you want to about my musical tastes. here, I'll even float a link to my T.I. review in PopMatters so you can understand why I like that record and what I got out of it. I'm done here anyway. Shit like that. What the fuck.
http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/t/ti-trapmuzik.shtml

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:17 (twenty years ago) link

haikunym don't sweat the hatas! play it cool!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

I CAN'T STAND IT BLOUNT THEY'RE DRIVING ME MAD I TELL YOU LIKE W.C. AND HIS FUCKIN' CIRCLE

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:20 (twenty years ago) link

i spelled 'mad' wrong

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:21 (twenty years ago) link

hahahahahahhaha

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:36 (twenty years ago) link

Completely agree about TI, bad-ass! He's not crunk? Favorite song of the moment: Trill (sp?) Bill-Get On My Level. Total getting drunk & headbanging music...

― mayor motorcade (mayor motorcade), Friday, 12 December 2003 03:10 (twenty years ago) link

I remembered this weekend that, a few years ago, the Kentucky Headhunters had a country hit called "Dumas Walkers" or something, where they ordered "a slawburger and a bottle of ski." I had no idea what that meant until I saw Lil Jon explain after the "Get Low" video (where lady cops shoot super soakers at strippers, or something like that) that "ski ski ski ski ski" means, like, squirting stuff. So maybe the Headhunters' bottle of ski was in a seltzer bottle??

― chuck, Monday, 15 December 2003 17:12 (twenty years ago) link

Fascinating.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 December 2003 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

is this the same dk who told me illmatic was his favorite cd of all time? and then changed his mind and decided it was under construction? stop being such a bitch and playign like you hate on nyc lyrical standards when you never even been down south, youre a fucking CANADIAN. btw heres the ugly, overedited, blurb that started the comparison-- http://63.172.85.108/flagpole/FMPro?-db=reviews.fp5&-format=review2.htm&-lay=reviews&type=record&publish=yes&-op=cn&band=t.i.%20&-recid=33722&-find=

― 24s, Monday, 15 December 2003 17:58 (twenty years ago) link

i didnt know that get low now had elephant man and busta rhymes on it

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:31 (twenty years ago) link

Generally once a hip hop song starts getting radio play it's only a matter of time until Busta shows up on it.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:36 (twenty years ago) link

hehe...

― Jay Kid (Jay K), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

I think it's the *harshest* Busta has sounded in a long time.

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

yeah the elephant man/busta remix is great. those first few seconds are total chaos. elephant man is a perfect choice- "wouldn't mind to see you get nudie!" busta is definitely on fire, i think if either came with less they'd just have gotten rolled over.

― rgeary (rgeary), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

i just realized this song is full of rave whistles!

― rgeary (rgeary), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:05 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not even gonna read all this but I totally get off on the sheer PIRATEness of "Get Low." It's all yarggh and booty-minded. "Damn!" doesn't do as much for me but "Get Low" is probably the best pirate song I've heard since Metallica's "Whiskey In The Jar".

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:01 (twenty years ago) link

You wouldn't believe how impossible it is to find a picture on the internet of a pimp chalice with the word "pimp" lettered out on it in diamonds. I know I've seen one of those things.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 23:14 (twenty years ago) link

Never been down south? I'm Third Coast Born like C-Note. I've been getting paid on these H-Town streets since I could walk. I've rolled with Keke, Pookie, ESG, Flex, everyone. I bought the first UGK tapes out of the trunk of Pimp C's Grand Prix when they did shows at Club Venue in Corsicana. Get your mind correct, you wannabe Athens thug. I've been to Athens. I know how you bitches roll. Come to Acres Home or Cloverland if you think you're hard and you want to learn how the shells burn.

― d k, Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:06 (twenty years ago) link

The first time I heard Lil Flip was on an episode of Fastlane. I'm fucking lame. I drove through the Midwest once, when I was a kid. I mostly remember the hotels. I saw the baseball stadium in Chicago, on the way through, just from the highway. I love expensive running shoes. I have more Radiohead CDs than UGK ones. But sometimes I just want to pretend! "Don't rap about what you saw in the Scarface movie, nigga, when you can't even spell Uzi, nigga. We live this."

― d k, Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:09 (twenty years ago) link

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― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 18 December 2003 05:13 (twenty years ago) link

Lil Jon, Lil Scrappy, Pastor Troy. Crunk stuff is some of my favorite hip hop ever. It's so driving and in you face. It makes me want to yell the words along with it. This stuff is almost as invigorating as Andrew WK.

― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 18 December 2003 05:56 (twenty years ago) link

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