(I know he was outside the house at the end of the episode but it's not clear what happens next)
― akm, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:06 (nine years ago) link
he's outside in the previews.i took that (somewhat clunky) moment as the scene where he finally realizes this is in his head
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:12 (nine years ago) link
loved the way jimmy croaked how he was watching the opera while covered in adult diapers
― tayto fan (Michael B), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
I think this was the episode where this show started to click for me as its own thing, enjoyable completely outside the bbad context
― Clay, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
Seems like there's more comedy moments than in Breaking Bad
― paolo, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
We pretty much knew that was going to be the case as soon as the show was green-lit.
Just watched last night's episode — this show is so good.
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link
I am still kind of hoping for some "client of the week" type episodes where it's a straight-up farce
― mh, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
that doesn't look very likely
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
The last 3-4 ep's of this have been brilliant in particular, there needs at least to be one more series of this. I hope they don't kill off McKean/his bro in this one, because he is ace.
― xelab, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
he was in breaking bad, so it's unlikely no?
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
I can't remember him in BB tbh and I watched it all, senility creeping in.
― xelab, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
amc ordered two seasons to begin with, so I don't think you have to worry abt another season to come
― Clay, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link
mckean was not in breaking bad at all iirc
― Clay, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
you know what, i think it's my senility. I coulda sworn he was in it but i can't find a link so i don't think it happened.
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
he and odenkirk have a really fantastic sibling dynamic imho
good use of galt macdermot this wk too
― sktsh, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link
This was a good episode, I love how Jimmy's real strength is shown to be his dogged determinedness of getting results no matter how humiliating it is for him. I guess he wouldn't have gotten there without all those years of taking hopeless public defendant jobs...
One scene which I felt hit a false note was the one where Mike's daughter-in-law (IMDb tells me her name is "Stacey", but I don't think it's been mentioned in the show?) suggested she and Kaylee would need more money... I mean, she must realize what sort of things Mike would have to do to get some extra money, and nothing we've seen so far has suggested she's the sort of person who would ask Mike for that. And if this is gonna be turning point for Mike, the one thing that leads him back to a life crime, I wish they would've put more effort into fleshing out her character and her motivations for pushing him into it. I guess the biggest flaw in BCS so far is that the writers haven't been very good at writing the female characters, they've been relegated to fairly stereotypical gendered roles: the suffering widow, the loyal (ex) girlfriend, the manipulative shrew.
Also, as funny as the scene was, I don't understand why Jimmy was wearing a good suit when he went dumpster-diving? He knew what he was gonna do, so why not dress in some cheaper clothes?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 07:35 (nine years ago) link
Jimmy so clearly doesn't own anything other than cheap suits.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 09:59 (nine years ago) link
But didn't he use some of Kettleman's bribe money to buy himself a fancy "Matlock" suit so he would look good in the eyes of pensioners? It looked like that was the suit he was wearing in the dumpster.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 10:15 (nine years ago) link
And by "Matlock suit" I meant the white suit he bought, not the previous one he got to piss off the jerkass lawyer at his brother's company.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 10:20 (nine years ago) link
"Also, as funny as the scene was, I don't understand why Jimmy was wearing a good suit when he went dumpster-diving?"
Good to see that Tuomas never changes.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 13:46 (nine years ago) link
Kinda liked how abrupt the mike thing was
"Money's a bit tight rn"*sigh* "guess I'd better join the criminal underworld"
― sexpost TMIing! (wins), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
When you've already gunned down two cops everything else is a pretty short step from there.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 14:09 (nine years ago) link
Oh I agree, that's why I liked it! Worth remembering that mike is unambiguously a bad guy in bb & it'd be out of character for him to be wrestling with his conscience
― sexpost TMIing! (wins), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link
Mike is prepared to go all-in as he Breaks Bad, per his established 'no half measures' code, but I think he certainly wrestles with his conscience. It's one of the things that makes him a more emotionally complex character than Walter White.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link
the mike episode a couple/few weeks back was a stright up masterpiece, mike is so good, they shd have a mike show too
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link
xpost There's a tension between his willingness to do what he has to do on his path to damnation and his general decency that's in marked contrast with Walt's scorched earth sociopathy.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link
mike is unambiguously 100% business and his business happens to be criminal at this point
no matter what position you put him in, he gets results
― mh, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link
No one was getting past him without the right stickers.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
I guess the biggest flaw in BCS so far is that the writers haven't been very good at writing the female characters, they've been relegated to fairly stereotypical gendered roles: the suffering widow, the loyal (ex) girlfriend, the manipulative shrew.
Tuomas otm here, and it was the same in BB imo
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link
I get the impression that this may not be Mike's first foray into crime. Besides murdering those two police, we've already seen him help Jimmy break into the Kettlemans' house, and he seemed completely at ease with that. And there's a bunch of time between the end of his run as a cop and his moving to New Mexico, right? Who knows what he got up to during that interval.
Then again, that would've required him to be fully involved in crime in the same city where he'd been an officer, and doing so while his own son was on the police force. So maybe not.
While I'm speculating, I have to think that Mike was already working for Fring by around the time BB starts. I know that wasn't the original intention for his character, but he was eventually depicted as too important to the Fring operation to have just gotten involved with it sometime after his first appearance at the end of season 2.
― JRN, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
thought it was p clear Mike was dirty/doin crimes while on the force in Philly
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
Mike was important to the organisation because the rest of the Fring muscle were all complete fucking cretins.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link
I'm not sure I find the story of Mike's sons murder entirely plausible (his dad was a cop also on the take--seems like there are many ways of playing this short of Serpico-ing him).
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link
Am I the only one getting a blackmail vibe from Mike's daughter-in-law?
― smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:29 (nine years ago) link
Not a blackmail vibe so much as a 'morality-clouding proximity to ill-gotten $$$' vibe, a la Skyler White or Carmella Soprano.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:39 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
agreed, getting the sense BCS is gonna be almost as much the mike ehrmantraut hour as it is the saul origin/conclusion story although saul will prob remain the primary focus
― are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
xp good comparisons
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, that was my thought too, but at least Skyler they'd already established her as a complex enough character so we'd understand where she was coming from, whereas with Stacey it came out of the blue, because we don't really know anything about her.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
this bathroom legal documentation to serve the corrupt retirement home owners is amazing, some tour de force legal work
― mh, Thursday, 26 March 2015 00:39 (nine years ago) link
Chuck looking like he's in a catatonic state until he calmly demands twenty million dollars
― mh, Thursday, 26 March 2015 01:05 (nine years ago) link
the sandpiper crossing attorney is Dennis Boutsikaris who Law & Order fiends will remember from many L&O/SVU/CI episodes, including at least one stone classic
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Thursday, 26 March 2015 02:24 (nine years ago) link
mike is unambiguously 100% business and his business happens to be criminal at this pointno matter what position you put him in, he gets results
Like I said
― sexpost TMIing! (wins), Thursday, 26 March 2015 07:42 (nine years ago) link
I don't know what to make of this show but it certainly ain't bad
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 26 March 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
latest episode might've been the best since "five-O" (the all-mike hour)
― are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link
"pimento is a cheese. some call it the caviar of the south."
Welp now we know what's in Odenkirk's Emmy reel
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link
Fucking Chuck.
― smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
great episode.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
Bob O has been stupendous in this so far, gilligan is like some kinda middle-aged comedian emmy whisperer
― Clay, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
best episode yet
― tayto fan (Michael B), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link