We all saw this link https://pavelkosenko.wordpress.com/2012/09/02/a-set-of-photographs-by-gueorgui-pinkhassov/
And said, well let's just quit taking pictures. Why bother?
― 龜, Monday, 6 April 2015 03:44 (nine years ago) link
shouldn't approach it that way. rather, be inspired by seeing that you can support yourself and gain recognition without doing fashion photography or other types of commercial work.
― eee, Monday, 6 April 2015 04:35 (nine years ago) link
nuh-uh, it doesn't work, you get the pictures back after getting all inspired & it turns out they are of a lower quality than those taken by pinkhassov
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 6 April 2015 04:48 (nine years ago) link
i'd forgotten he was on instagram, though, so ty.
i really love hilton als' pictures
https://igcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t51.2885-15/1799799_719334848179466_552372376_n.jpg
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 6 April 2015 04:52 (nine years ago) link
(thank you for the link 龜; great stuff; dig your eye & sensibility)
― drash, Monday, 6 April 2015 10:05 (nine years ago) link
Ty for that schlump, reminds me I need to pick up White Girls
Ty drash, basically I'm an old bore who still only worships Frank so I'm glad you like it!
― 龜, Monday, 6 April 2015 11:06 (nine years ago) link
somebody else can slam dunk ^this^ into the ilx out of context thread BUT fwiw i loved white girls, its first long essay especially
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 6 April 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
I just ordered White Girls. I live a lush life 8-)
― 龜, Monday, 6 April 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
not on instagram, have hardly visited (interface with comments annoys me)— should explore more
so my only rec for good instagram is walker evans polaroids http://www.andrearosengallery.com/artists/walker-evanshttp://artgallery.yale.edu/overall-search/walker%20evans%20polaroid
basically i’m an old bore too (with pantheon including frank, top 2 gods prob eggleston & daido)
white girls looks interesting, i like hilton als
― drash, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
also daido moriyama polaroids, alas few of them online
http://www.re-title.com/public/exhibitors/5670/archive_3736_TakaIshiiGallery-1.jpghttp://img5.douban.com/lpic/s4629247.jpg
― drash, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link
wow
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 23:31 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/6WasVEy.jpg
John Divola, normcore style icon
― 龜, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 10:47 (nine years ago) link
an excellent look
on a level with daido goth and eggleston gentleman
― drash, Thursday, 9 April 2015 08:36 (nine years ago) link
yeah wow
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
hey i have a really boring questionis there a lab in manhattan that can quickly turn around e-6 processing? like 24h or something resembling that but stretched across weekend closurei'm way deep in the b&h site but it's like being in the store, everything is untouchable at arm's length
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
also if not what is manhattan for
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
Duggan
― 龜, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link
Well something that begins with D
― 龜, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
http://www.duggal.com/contact/locations-hours/
Their website seems very intimidating but hopefully they do walk ins? Maybe dress as John Divola first?
― 龜, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
dress like the unabomber
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
website definitely super intimidating
"hello i would like to process one roll of film" strongly redolent of every time i have withdrawn <$5 at the bank
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
but thanks
i am going to use their Live Chat facility to ask whether i can drop in
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
I think my lil' place in Chinatown does E-6 too but I've never gotten it done there
― 龜, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link
It's called Yardley, the cool thing is that I was going through some old family photos from 30 years ago, and my parents had gotten a couple of rolls developed at the same place =)
― 龜, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
Hey, so I’m not a good photographer, but I’ve been taking pictures, sifting through them, editing them, and posting some of the results to Instagram (follow me if you aren’t already): http://ow.ly/M5Fbq
Anyway, right now I need to get better at the fundamental task of taking a good picture. A lot of the stuff I take doesn’t come out looking good. Basically, I’ll head out and shoot a bunch of photos in VSCO Cam. I don’t put much care into the actual shooting process, which is bad, but I also don’t have much technique, which is also bad. I should probably get a book or read a blog post or talk to someone or something. Anyway, eventually, I’ll do some post-processing, and I’ll get to the point where I’ve post one or several photos from a “shoot,” but even then I often delete stuff I’ve posted. A lot of photos have been deleted from IG! More than are up there now. But yeah. I need to get better and will keep working at it. I’ve been trying out various iOS photo apps too, but when it comes down to it I need to go to more new places, take more pictures, and practice more, I guess. And maybe read up a little bit more.
― markers, Friday, 24 April 2015 22:44 (nine years ago) link
markers i really like your instagram & sensibility, good stuff
much of what you describe don't sound like symptoms of being a bad photographer, just being a photographer
i'm so unable & unqualified to give "advice" (so don't listen to me). guess reading can't hurt & may help (depending on what your read), but imo from my own experience it's more important to look look look at photography & other art (painting, film), especially pursue trail of things you feel inchoate connection to
obv don't just look at contemporary internet photography (though it's good to look at that too; among other things to get a sense of what the contemporary cliches are)
i'm a little suspicious of/ uncomfortable with notion of "a good picture" (e.g. as defined by how-to books with rules/ recipes for good composition)
maybe reading good photography criticism more helpful than reading photography technique? tbh not sure about that
reading about "what makes a good picture" may be good thing, but imo more important to absorb this through osmosis & intuition & practice
i'm curious what other ilpers might say
― drash, Saturday, 25 April 2015 10:54 (nine years ago) link
i have no credentials or anything but to me, markers, your stream totally seems like you're on the right track! not just blowing smoke, but i mean, you're shooting stuff that draws your eye. so i already feel like that's cool. that sounds like some kind of lame generic summer camp counselor advice but i honestly think it's true. the times i get the most alienated from photography are where i get caught up in what i think it should look like, and the times i get the most joy out of it are when i embrace what i want it to do. that's also of course where the challenges and frustration come in, due to the gap between what i want to do, and what i'm capable of doing with my skills/instincts/time/etc. but that's the hobby of it i guess.
what are you dissatisfied about with your shots? tbh i have no idea what it's like shooting with an iphone, or what kind of controls one has, or how one gets better or anything like that. i also think i'd probably be extremely stumped working from a square crop, though obviously tons of people do fantastic stuff with it. it's just not my native language and i'd feel adrift, compositionally. i can do it when cropping down from a 4x6 negative but shooting as a square... it's weird. maybe another way of putting this is that getting started with photography, the one biggest thing i got taught was composing through the lens, learning to 'see' pictures, and your field of vision is not square. it's not 4x6 through a 50mm lens either, but the latter is closer i think, and obviously the ergonomics of an SLR viewfinder make it a little more natural to move back and forth between seeing things and shooting. i'm just rambling though and none of this is to say that your compositions jump out at me as having a problem with them!
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 27 April 2015 03:17 (nine years ago) link
why are there no good photo blogs
what is this
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link
I like this: http://carlgunhouse.blogspot.com/
― chinavision!, Saturday, 2 May 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link
ooo
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Saturday, 2 May 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link
hey by the way, cv:
i wondered, when you were talking about finding it harder to gravitate toward photographs, taking them/tending to them, &c
did something else take its place?
are you robert frank in the seventies putting the gun down?
do you make gifs now?
I've been more productive making music, mostly. Which is not bad because when I was taking a lot of pictures I felt guilty about not making music.
I think it's hard to work on two things at once, but that's just me.
― chinavision!, Saturday, 2 May 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
though work has something to do with it too unfortunately
― chinavision!, Saturday, 2 May 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link
cv just so you know I"ve been shouting the joy of seeing your photos in a printed book to anybody who will listen
― 龜, Saturday, 2 May 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link
Your reaction to it was very inspiring actually... Part of the reason I'm making myself do more photo work!
― chinavision!, Sunday, 3 May 2015 03:37 (eight years ago) link
thanks drash and Doctor Casino! i appreciate that you guys took the time out to write all that out. i'm still having a frustrating time. today it's, in part, with instagram's(?) compression, which is fucking up my shit and making it look crappy after i've spent more time than most people getting the photo to look decent. it's making it look like i don't know what i'm doing, which to an extent i don't. anyway, instagram is prob not the best place for me to post all this stuff, but i'm doing all of this for instagram in a lot of ways, so i guess it does make sense. still, seeing people post garbage and get a lot more attention than i do is annoying as all fuck
― markers, Sunday, 3 May 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link
getting, rather
― markers, Sunday, 3 May 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link
still, seeing people post garbage and get a lot more attention than i do is annoying as all fuck
This is the iron law of the Internet, but maybe especially of photography on the internet. I feel your pain.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 3 May 2015 20:59 (eight years ago) link
It's also a bit weird seeing one of your own photos getting found by someone else and getting a lot of love all over tumblr, but only discovering so by chance. The second time it happened they'd cropped the original. Included a link back to my Flickr though. And it's nice when people like something.
― michaellambert, Sunday, 3 May 2015 22:25 (eight years ago) link
Particularly weird since Flickr's such a ghost town since the redesign, I sort of forget I even have photos up, and the possibility of anybody finding or liking them, and then you discover that some kinda random shot has gotten dozens of re-tumbles or whatever. Flattering I guess, but also strangely alienating.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 4 May 2015 01:33 (eight years ago) link
risingtensions has some great photos up on her personal blog http://stephdavidson.tumblr.com/
http://i.imgur.com/ZxebQUh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2NuS7Cd.jpg
― 龜, Friday, 8 May 2015 11:25 (eight years ago) link
^agree
(also, wasn't acquainted with risingtensions; thank you)
― drash, Friday, 8 May 2015 14:11 (eight years ago) link
steph davidson is way cool
meanwhile takashi:
http://36.media.tumblr.com/fc75dc4878b75e25b15e0a09b2729d93/tumblr_noxakcYtBx1qe50hoo1_1280.jpg
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 25 May 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link
http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/05/21/q-and-a-liu-heung-shing-on-the-new-shanghai-center-of-photography/
This is cool as hell
― 龜, Friday, 29 May 2015 12:05 (eight years ago) link
this was cool btw
i kinda don't even necessarily want to drag our cool photo treehouse around to ~considering~ it, as Hot Photographic Topic, but the parts of this that respond to/are dictated by an emerging chinese market for photography are weird, i think. like lucrative art fair photography sales. but it's super cool if a city gets an ICP out of it. also hyped to see eggleston go china. he was just in ... brazil, i feel like.
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Saturday, 30 May 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/06/10/world/asia/north-korea-photos-video.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=photo-spot-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
i love the new york times
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2015/06/09/world/asia/north-korea-ss-slide-V2X8/north-korea-ss-slide-V2X8-jumbo.jpg
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 14:26 (eight years ago) link
Topical Breezings:
- i have a postcard of this roger mayne picture of sandra blow - i can't find a digital version that gets its texture - but i look at it a lot & it has the qualities i like in a photograph (or a portrait), i think-
http://40.media.tumblr.com/9f2a3ef02e896ef9f096d0b4ee5f5f5e/tumblr_nbgckeGAf51qzlg5xo1_400.jpg
- & thinking of this i think i have wasted my life holding the camera still, i like blur, it's so emotional, it breaks my heart, what have i been doing, i'm ruined
- like i think my hi-iso (colour) shitty-cellphone pictures are more-satisfying-when-backlit to me than my colour film pictures, right now, to me, somehow equivalating the liveliness of grainy colour slide images in an abstract way more than standard colour negative film does
- &, iii., hey, i am borrowing the friedlander family phots book from the library, it's great, like a kind of tom-waits-&-kath-brennan cousin to nick nixon's brown sisters-
http://i.imgur.com/cOfrcrD.jpg
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Friday, 19 June 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link
blur <3! are, bure, boke in general (can be) <3. easier to think of examples in b&w but <3 in color too
may be last person on earth who still uses film for street/ night/ color, so get a lot of it— powdery grain (suffusing the dark), smears & splotches & specters of of color
it’s one reason i’m still attached to film but as you say, film’s not necessary. sense of fugitive glimpse, evanescence, fragility, flaw, abstraction, tenderness, ever disintegrating materiality in grain or pixel. cf those rinko kawauchi cell phone pics
also reason to go back & look at past “outtakes”: stimes set aside pic that’s (lamentably) underexposed/ grainy/ out of focus/ blurred, but keep looking & it sticks, has its own charge (though important & stimes not easy to distinguish this from attachment to what pic ‘cd/wd/shd have been’ if not for flaw)
― drash, Friday, 19 June 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
at yr suggestion sought out friedlander book too, it is great, adds to & changes my appreciation of lf (also now in love with maria friedlander)
― drash, Friday, 19 June 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link