Yes otm! I bet that was on purpose cos I had the same thought during one of her scenes and it cuts right away to Ray on the couch receiving a set of golf clubs from a cyclops.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 03:50 (nine years ago) link
The actress in the fur coat who opened the show is Andie MacDowell's daughter (middle--on the right is another daughter who's on an HBO show I don't know).― clemenza, Tuesday, April 7, 2015 11:43 PM (Yesterday
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 06:54 (nine years ago) link
Yup, that's her.
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 07:07 (nine years ago) link
you think Don and Betty could get back together? after the Rachel thing i'm clutching at straws for the guy.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 07:08 (nine years ago) link
He's gonna re-connect with Midge in detox.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 08:19 (nine years ago) link
Who was the waitress btw? Have we seen her before at all?
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 10:30 (nine years ago) link
this is the same 'wait.. who's she? are we meant to know?' thing that happened a few episodes back when a random blonde showed up as he was getting an offer from a rival ad firm. and we never found out who the hell she was!
― piscesx, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 10:41 (nine years ago) link
isn't it just that she reminds him of rachel?
― Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 10:44 (nine years ago) link
The random blonde was a prostitute hired by the firm trying to get him to sign, right?
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 10:47 (nine years ago) link
I seem to recall somewhere in Don's post-(first)divorce bottoming-out spiral that he had a fling with some waitress as part of an epic binge, but I can't recall if this was her or not. Kinda seemed like not.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
Nah that one was older and less attractive.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link
The actress has never been on Mad Men before. But there has prob been quite a lot of women in Don's life we haven't seen.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:09 (nine years ago) link
Wealth/status aside, Don's hallucination of Rachel and his visit to her shiva both seemed like him attempting to reconcile rather than store her memory away in another compartment. Obviously he's not liberated from all he's been done/been through, but that line he tells the waitress at the end, about just needing somewhere to sit so he can like hold it all together, was pretty key i think. He's allowing himself to feel the pain at least now rather than pretending its not there, and that process seems static on the surface but is progress underneath? Meanwhile he's staying sane by checking both back alley w/ waitress and bedroom floor w/ stewardess off his list.
this description pretty much explains why i have found don to be a boring character for so long. too much internalized angst, which requires you to project onto him whatever your theories about his state of mind might be... like an antonioni character or something. zzzz.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
i mean, i suppose what i'm getting at is that the interpretation i quoted is just as good--but not necessarily much better--as a dozen others. and all of the interpretations are pretty much equally gaseous at this point. this can be defended as a kind of psychological realism but it's not very interesting dramatically. IMO.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
Don as a ghost works for me, he's a shell/shade at this point
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
said it lots, but don is at his best as a character when the characters in the show are put in the position of figuring him out. i also have high tolerance for antionioniisms.
― ryan, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
also i often feel like the writers of mad men are kind of too engaged in shadowboxing with expectations, and thus the show increasingly feels like it's being written as a series of knight's moves. a conscious resisting of expectation, but in an equally consciously unpredictable way. i think that was refreshing for a long time but--and maybe this is just the burden i'm bringing to it as a particular viewer, who knows--leaves the show feeling like its run out of narrative gas and is coasting on its (typically impressive) feel for surface texture, dialogue, etc.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
feel/feels/feeling blergh
weasel words!
it's never really had much narrative gas.
― ryan, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link
I agree, it's why I've never really cared whether they write a 'good ending' or not. Like if Don or anybody else dies it hardly matters, and would probably be less interesting than if they just take the characters as far in time as the remaining episodes permit without seeming jarring.
― totally unachievable goals and no incentive to compromise (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link
rooting for a St Elsewhere ending
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 April 2015 22:49 (nine years ago) link
whole thing took place on a television show
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 April 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
Don, Pete, Peggy, Roger, and Joan in a jail cell.
Roger: "Now, that top button--I don't get that at all."Joan: "Haven't we had this conversation already?"
― clemenza, Thursday, 9 April 2015 23:17 (nine years ago) link
Don flying off in a helicopter, looks out the window to see Peggy speeding around on Honda bike, the words "You won't believe how much this didn't happen" written on the ground.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 9 April 2015 23:24 (nine years ago) link
I wouldn't mind Draper's glacial pace at all if he didn't get so much screen time. Weiner said several seasons ago that Hamm had similar concerns. My ancient fan fiction ending (although now I think DD's too introverted for this);Anna's niece gets busted bad, pressured to flip on somebody. She chooses Don, telling herself that his identity theft/desertion was so long ago, it won't be that big a deal. But J. Edgar or somebody else up there doesn't like him, wants to discredit the renegade Mad Man who flipped off patriotic Big Tobacco in that op=ad. Yadda yadda, he comes out of the slammer, goes to Cali and re-invents himself in the Human Potential Movement of the early 70s, like used car salesman Jack Rosenberg became Werner Erhard, founder of EST. (Maybe last scene: he's holding forth in a geodesic dome, with Peggy and her new hubby as his assistants)Does that seem too Happily Ever After? Wouldn't have to be---this is from the early 80s:http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20088728,00.html
― dow, Friday, 10 April 2015 00:01 (nine years ago) link
Loved this episode. I even got my wish for more Ken.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 10 April 2015 00:24 (nine years ago) link
Brian Krakow is all grown up!
waow!
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 10 April 2015 13:54 (nine years ago) link
"She's a very sexy lady!"
"I thought you were queer.'
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2015 02:07 (nine years ago) link
The parting glance over the shoulder at Betty with the kids and their chocolate shakes struck me as obvious.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2015 02:08 (nine years ago) link
...a lot of things in this one have been obvious
― call all destroyer, Monday, 13 April 2015 02:27 (nine years ago) link
Megan's family is not amusing and it's played like screwball on 'lude speed.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2015 02:36 (nine years ago) link
that sucked
― call all destroyer, Monday, 13 April 2015 03:05 (nine years ago) link
Nice to see Moshe Dayan again.
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 13 April 2015 03:06 (nine years ago) link
Not so nice to see more Elizabeth Reaser, ughhhhh.
hopefully that's the end of it
― call all destroyer, Monday, 13 April 2015 03:08 (nine years ago) link
Very odd. I'm baffled that Sally hasn't been in either of the first two. I'm not enjoying watching it on AMC at all (as opposed to DVD)--AMC has a really ugly look to it. And it was much better when, after a mediocre episode, I could just move on to the next one.
― clemenza, Monday, 13 April 2015 03:10 (nine years ago) link
Meredith's reference to "the Manson brothers" might have been the only really good line in the episode. She seems to have had a premonition of the Hanson brothers from Slap Shot, still a few years away.
― clemenza, Monday, 13 April 2015 03:36 (nine years ago) link
Still not used to the idea of Julia Ormond being old enough to play mom roles.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 13 April 2015 03:40 (nine years ago) link
I didn't rewatch the first half of S7 before the new eps started, so maybe I'm not remembering the Don/Megan relationship going sour. I thought they were on amicable terms? And why was Marie so extremely vindictive towards him?
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 April 2015 03:40 (nine years ago) link
The transition there has indeed been clunky. They are amicable at the end of 7-a; the end comes over the phone, and it's sort of sad and sweet.
I didn't know the song over the end credits tonight, but enough. It's 1970--the statute of limitation on that kind of thing is long past now.
― clemenza, Monday, 13 April 2015 03:43 (nine years ago) link
I'm an unabashed megan draper partisan and am hella bummed by this
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 13 April 2015 04:11 (nine years ago) link
"i'll pull my sleeves up and throw my tie over my shirt, they'll love it" "they probably will!"
could watch a whole episode of don and pete golfing.
― dutch_justice, Monday, 13 April 2015 05:18 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I felt cheated that nothing came of that besides a humdrum conversation in Pete's car.
Oh yeah, in case anyone forgot, Harry Crane is THE WORST.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 April 2015 05:19 (nine years ago) link
stan & pima oh hell yes
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 April 2015 06:01 (nine years ago) link
pima + peggy :D
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 April 2015 06:03 (nine years ago) link
MIMI ROGERS!!!!!
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 April 2015 08:34 (nine years ago) link
...and 20 seconds of Sylvia in the elevator!
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 April 2015 08:35 (nine years ago) link
this was a good, entertaining ep, and I still would've prob traded all of it for 40 mins of don & pete golfing
― johnny crunch, Monday, 13 April 2015 12:00 (nine years ago) link
Harry = human garbage. Don't know if I needed to see Don & Pete golfing, but seeing Roger and Megan's mom together again was great, and Mimi Rogers hitting on Peggy was hilarious, especially when Peggy tossed it at Stan at the end. "I don't believe you." "Which part?"
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 13 April 2015 13:30 (nine years ago) link