MAD MEN on AMC - Seasons 7(a) & & 7(b)

They better give Peggy a good ending, she's the most sympathetic character on the show.

btw there are absolutely zero spoilers in that Jimmy Kimmel clip.

"B-b-but whatever happened to the Russian?" blowhards are the worst.

The big murder he orchestrated, the places he has come from and if he just disappeared from Joan's sight seems like things waiting to be explored.

the big murder no one cares about, it's already established he lied about his past, and he moved to a different city from where Joan lives (and he was just grooming her as an accomplice anyway, I doubt there was anything real emotionally to their relationship)

"B-b-but whatever happened to the Russian?" blowhards are the worst.

― Elvis Telecom, Friday, April 17, 2015 2:06 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...i don't see how they're comparable, lol i'm not like mad at weiner for not going further just mildly puzzled, also it's not a question of resolution bc we know how it happened

but in any case pete is a selfish mess & i suppose was not bound to care much about things not directly affecting him for very long

I could see them putting in a quick scene where we see Bob as some bigshot at GM or whatever. His story on Mad Men is very much over though.

Also I don't remember Bob actually being involved in Pete's mother's murder, other than obviously being the one who introduced the guy who killed her to Pete. I might have missed something though.

Entirely possible that he gets away with it.

One of Bob's phone conversations has him taking part in getting rid of Pete's mother. Maybe Pete ending up feeling like he'd been done a favour.

harry crane deserves castration he is viiiiile

― slothroprhymes, Thursday, April 16, 2015 9:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

surprised megan didn't see that one coming a few miles away, though. had she never met harry (or any sleazebag) before?

She overheard Harry saying disgusting shit about her in the break room; why did she even agree to meet with him?

One of Bob's phone conversations has him taking part in getting rid of Pete's mother.

yup - after a big blowup w Pete Bob is next shown in his office yelling in Spanish to Manolo "I don't care how nice she is, she's got to go" or something to that effect

ok thanks. I remember that scene, I guess my Spanish just isn't very good

I dunno, it doesn't seem that sinister to me? He's complaining about Pete screwing with him at work, and trying to separate Manolo from Pete's mom, as Pete requested? I don't think we're supposed to think he had anything to do with the murder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB-lgSmymFI

and trying to separate Manolo from Pete's mom

hmm that hadn't occurred to me but sure, this interpretation works too

would make his involvement in her death indirect rather than sinister but yeah idk if it really needs to be explored further. Obviously Pete doesn't think so!

surprised megan didn't see that one coming a few miles away, though. had she never met harry (or any sleazebag) before?

denial?

you could almost argue that don has turned her into a post-60s version of betty draper.

i want this guy to make an appearance

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/madmen/images/5/50/Salvatore.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100723120110

I gave up hoping for Sal's return several seasons ago, but a cameo would be nice.

Don't agree with all of this, but good points on roadmap
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bastard-machine/mad-men-purpose-diana-anxiety-790005?utm_source=twitter

(Also, my take: sees Diana making some of his earlier mistakes/going through same or similar stages---but then seems she's gone beyond his experience, so he may have dropped the notion of helping/saving her.)

i'm hoping for a madcap knockabout type episode tonight. at least ONE of the remaining few has to be. you know like Shut The Door..

So why do they no longer have a california office? Is it just that no one (besides harry) was into it anymore?

aaaaaaawwwwwkkkkwwwaaaardddd

So Sally Draper has grown up to become a bad actress.

Tin soldiers and Glen is coming.

Thought Sally was fine in that scene, deleted expletive notwithstanding.

I deleted a growl when I saw what Glen had become.

"Why don't you write down all your dreams so I can shit on them?"

The guys can get away with being patronizing about a woman's ambition.

Don is basically George Costanza in this episode, trying to get everyone around him to find out what risk management means.

he just learned

divorced twice??

dude don got fired was like

http://submoon.freeshell.org/pix/kewl/simpsons10.png

Glen was a weird kid, but weird goes with movie/TV kids; he's entered some new dimension of weirdness that's hard to watch.

Excellent last line. And I've been telling people for 25 years that "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" is brilliant, so bravo, as Bert would say.

(Missed the second half of Don's line to Sally: "You're a beautiful girl, but------?" He was hardly misbehaving around her friend.)

I think he said "be more" or something. A whole lot of ways for don to feel shallow and useless in this episode.

xp it was "but you can be so much more than that" I think

a reasonable point but also sorta patronizing as phrased much like the whole Peggy encounter

this ep was the first certified banger of the half season imo

My thought about 40 minutes in was "Better, still not good enough," but the ending redeemed it for me.

creepy glen's turn into the silent majority & moves on betty were even beyond previous peak creep heights

also hey matt weiner yr son is kinda garbage at acting

Did Peggy read Don's demeanor wrongly? I had the sense he was trying to push her towards giving deeper answers, but I guess it's entirely possibly he was just being a smug dickhead.

I don't think he was trying to but it's totally understandable how that would come off as patronizing or hypocritical to peggy given what she knows about him

Who is Joan's first ex-husband, btw? I suppose that's just some unexplained character background, but why wait until the last group of episodes to throw that in? Maybe she just considers Roger an ex?

Some reading has informed me that her first marriage was discussed briefly in an older episode when her college friend came to town and it was just a tossed-off detail. Round of applause for the continuity team there!

also hey matt weiner yr son is kinda garbage at acting

it wouldn't be the real glen bishop experience if he wasn't garbage at acting! love that kid. his relationship with betty was always so profoundly weird, i think this was a great way to show that betty has finally grown past the state of arrested development she was in during the early seasons.

what do we make of joan still living in her old place and relying on flaky hippie babysitters, given her newfound wealth?

Sexual feelings for your neighbor's kid strike me as the epitome of immaturity.

Still thinking about Roberta Flack. In an episode where there were two or three direct comments on Don's good looks--a theme that's always there, though not always verbalized; for Roger, it was his waning good looks ("You've looked better")--"The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" was perfect. It also had a summing-up feel as we near the end, and that worked in conjunction with the "Now we have to find a place for you" line. Which is what the last three episodes may or may not do: find a place for Don. (Obvious, I know, but still a great line.)

Sexual feelings for your neighbor's kid strike me as the epitome of immaturity.

well it's betty, her fucked-up-ness is less a 2-D line and more a 3-D grid. compared to the days when she was whispering her problems to glen through the window of his mom's car (and straight-up firing carla for letting him in the house, later on), this was at least an example of her setting a boundary with him and doing it without malice. it IS fucked up how much she struggled with herself to set that boundary, tho.

i'm gearing up for a disappointment with the end of this; these are all fine episodes but I don't feel like it's coming to an end yet and there are only 3 left.

glen will steal the identity of a fellow dead soldier in vietnam to complete his tour early and we will come full circle do u see