DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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I envy myself for getting up early and going to work.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link

Do we think Clegg will lose his seat?

no according to everyone i know in sheffield hallam

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link

i polled everyone

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link

Oh, if only Ed Milliband was the revolutionary socialist/communist the DM says he is.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:54 (nine years ago) link

Alarm clock Britain!

much of the verdict and the whole thing seemed very odd to me, this article kindly laid it out so i didn't have to think for myself https://ceasefiremagazine.co.uk/jennifer-izaakson-lutfur-rahman-verdict/

Yep. There has always been a perception that there's a vast amount of corruption in Tower Hamlets, most of it fueled by Rahman, but the charges he was actually brought up on seem fairly strange.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link

The Judge further said police at the polling stations could be said to be like the ‘three wise monkeys’

i voted in this election and there were police outside watching people hand out leaflets and canvas voters on the way in. if this statement is meant to imply racism on the judge's part, the police were white fwiw.

the swagger of oasis (LocalGarda), Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link

Tower Hamlets has always struck me as a cross-party clusterfuck but that verdict seems highly dubious to me.

Matt DC, Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link

Me too, and Eric Pickles is in charge of it during this ~crisis time~ so my first thought was: are they going to try to parachute in some mayor figure who is into social cleansing and luxury flats?

camp event (suzy), Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link

Well, it'll either be John Biggs or whoever can corral Rahman's voting bloc.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Thursday, 23 April 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link

would settle for an administration that's competent, regardless of who's fronting it. i have only lived in tower hamlets in london, so i can't compare it to other boroughs, but it is highly dysfunctional ime. from basics like bins not getting collected often enough to any dealing you'll ever have with the council - they are useless.

the verdict does seem a little like they decided they wanted to nail rahman and found a way to do so, but i don't have much sympathy for him based on the grants stuff, and the judge does discuss a lot of the issues raised in that article upthread in his summary.

the swagger of oasis (LocalGarda), Friday, 24 April 2015 07:43 (nine years ago) link

TH has been a basket case since the dissolution of the GLC, even compared to local rivals like Hackney and Islington. Machine politics don't help either.

Keith Moom (Neil S), Friday, 24 April 2015 08:18 (nine years ago) link

looking forward to things improving in tower hamlets

conrad, Friday, 24 April 2015 13:09 (nine years ago) link

Lived in TH for six years. In terms of the council services I've used it's been better than Camden where I lived for the previous six. What might improve? (genuine question!)

mmmm, Friday, 24 April 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link

Easy mistake to make, both claret and blue, give the man a break:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/25/david-cameron-blames-brain-fade-for-getting-his-football-team-wrong

(Meme From) Essex Press (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 25 April 2015 09:19 (nine years ago) link

what a dick

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Saturday, 25 April 2015 10:25 (nine years ago) link

And they're having such an uneventful season too, easy to forget you support them.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 April 2015 10:33 (nine years ago) link

Even worse: apparently his uncle once owned Aston Villa.

camp event (suzy), Saturday, 25 April 2015 10:45 (nine years ago) link

Roughly same colours, give the man a break.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 25 April 2015 10:56 (nine years ago) link

yeah, as a Hull City fan i can relate to this

Pat Condell tha funkee homosapien (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 April 2015 11:12 (nine years ago) link

it's only football but his slimy fakeness is on full show there

Arctic Noon Auk, Saturday, 25 April 2015 11:41 (nine years ago) link

Part 26781 in the long running series 'stuff Cameron does that if Ed Miliband did it he would be eviscerated for'

Part 26781 in the long running series 'stuff Cameron does that if Ed Miliband did it he would be eviscerated for'

― 'come around to your house and fuck your ho' (paraphrase) (Bananaman Begins)

Media in UK is overwhelmingly corporate. Cameron is their man.

Arctic Noon Auk, Saturday, 25 April 2015 12:56 (nine years ago) link

Miliband hasn't received instructions yet on which football team to pretend to support, has he? May be focus groups working on it though.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 April 2015 13:44 (nine years ago) link

He's a Leeds fan so understandably keeps it quiet.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Saturday, 25 April 2015 13:45 (nine years ago) link

Tories would pounce on the Dirty Leeds angle for sure.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 April 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link

Bremner, Giles, Hunter, Miliband = ruthless dirty bastards one and all

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 April 2015 13:49 (nine years ago) link

torn from the doll's bonce with a trident, mb she has a thing about them

ogmor, Saturday, 25 April 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link

The Sun: we think you'll fall for this shit, how's that for contempt?

Pat Condell tha funkee homosapien (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 April 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link

"is said to have"

neetsooh ebebay (wins), Saturday, 25 April 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link

whats this about devilish hacks?

yeovil knievel (NickB), Saturday, 25 April 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link

^I knew you would come through on this one

ogmor, Saturday, 25 April 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link

what an evil bitch.

thats it, i am voting tory.

mark e, Saturday, 25 April 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link

That speech is incredible. He manages to pat everyone in the country on the head while still blowing a hole in his own foot. I thought this cunt was meant to be good at PR?

Matt DC, Sunday, 26 April 2015 00:37 (nine years ago) link

Such a shame that Labour left this country bankrupt with all their overspending. Last night's unpleasantness could all have been avoided if they hadn't spent all of the money.

stet, Friday, 1 May 2015 11:54 (nine years ago) link

Where exactly is that wee cunt Liam Byrne these days?

Cram Session in Goniometry (Tom D.), Friday, 1 May 2015 11:56 (nine years ago) link

has mili really rowed back on his anti-snp stance?? it's the telegraph reporting it so i'm a little sus

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 1 May 2015 13:10 (nine years ago) link

Last night he said he'd rather see a Tory government than deal with the SNP so I'm thinking no.

mea nulta (onimo), Friday, 1 May 2015 13:18 (nine years ago) link

I think he's trying to do a politician's shuffle on this one. There won't be a coalition-style deal with the SNP, where he agrees X and they agree their undying support. I think what they're trying to do is rule out a A Deal but leave wiggle room for Many Little Deals on a vote-by-vote basis.

stet, Friday, 1 May 2015 13:50 (nine years ago) link

Think he already made this assertion a few days ago: “I’m not interested in deals, no … The way the House of Commons works is that we want to put our Queen’s speech before the House of Commons and the other parties will vote." https://archive.is/CtTq6

In this scenario the assumption is that the SNP will vote in his favour at the Queen's Speech so he becomes PM without a Confidence and Supply arrangement - ie. after the Queen's Speech vote the SNP can decide whether to support him or not without a specific arrangement to do so.

everything, Friday, 1 May 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link

The UKIP Scotland site http://ukipscotland.org/ on their manifesto posters doesn't exist. David Coburn blamed "Cybernats".

mea nulta (onimo), Monday, 4 May 2015 11:30 (nine years ago) link

I think he's trying to do a politician's shuffle on this one.

Ed M surely is a good enough politician to lie.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 May 2015 11:34 (nine years ago) link

People are pretty deluded if they think Miliband is going to voluntarily turn down the chance to be Prime Minister because of the SNP. Suspect that he and Sturgeon have already rehearsed this particular dance, it's about making the inevitable concessions platable to both sides.

Matt DC, Monday, 4 May 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link

Pretty sure he won't get the chance, can't see how Labour are going to manage to be the biggest party.

Cram Session in Goniometry (Tom D.), Monday, 4 May 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link

Labour doesn't need to be the biggest party.

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Monday, 4 May 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link

Obviously but I'd be surprised if they tried to form a government if they weren't.

Cram Session in Goniometry (Tom D.), Monday, 4 May 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link


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