four different big-screen interpretations of spider-man in 16 years seems like a record that will be hard to top
cloudy with a chance of meatballs is a straight-up masterpiece tho so i guess i'lll give them the benefit fo the doubt for now
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link
Sony Pictures will thereafter release the next installment of its $4 billion Spider-Man franchise, on July 28, 2017
What does this mean? Are they still going to have part 3 of the shitty reboot with Andrew Garfield? I thought that had been put out of its misery.
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link
rebooting again, iirc
― mh, Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link
Has anyone made a movie about how Spider-man got his powers yet?
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
Still the best Spider-Man movie:
http://media.giphy.com/media/7isbcNAx367qU/giphy.gif
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
xp So that'll be 5 in 16 years?
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
i think the spidey in the 2017 live-action movie will be making his debut in an mcu movie, so still 'just' four in 16 years
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link
Huh, that strikes me as something that would require a million lawyers - but I suppose both sides might have a half-million to spare.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link
iirc the leaked sony emails suggested the studio hadn't got a clue what to do next with the spidey licence and were willing to work more closely with marvel to something out
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link
to work something out
They need to treat him more like James Bond, just do a new, unrelated adventure every couple of years and stop giving a shit about continuity.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
but how will we know his origin?!?
― mh, Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link
so if dc and marvel get their wish, we'll have two batman and two spider-man franchises in theaters for the 2020s
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:10 (nine years ago) link
can't wait for http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cd/SupermanvsSpider-Man1976.jpg/250px-SupermanvsSpider-Man1976.jpg
― WilliamC, Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
i'm curious just what marvel has planned after AVENGERS GUARDIANS COSMIC KABOOM TIME but if they get to there without fucking up it doesn't matter if the next movie is ANT-MAN VS DOCTOR STRANGE: WORLD DESTRUCTION they've won hollywood
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link
they'll reboot, we'll get all-new origin stories and they'll start the slog to COSMIC KABOOM TIME all over again
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link
assuming X-MEN: APOCALYPSE does well, there will even be precedent for launching your reboot inside the previous ensemble's last dance
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link
while there's slight precedents like Bond (which really doesn't come up enough when people write about hollywood churning out globally minded bombast) i feel like marvel's actually heading towards an unprecedented place in hollywood where the quality level has been consistent, the cast hasn't changed, and people are just starting to experience fatigue
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link
obv the hope is that for every 40+ who says "fuck it, i'm out" a new 10+ says "this shit is AMAZING!" and also buys the toys
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link
xxp Well, that launched entirely separately, in fairness - more like Star Trek Generations in a baton-handing exercise.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
only patrick stewart wasn't playing captain kirk
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
Saw AoU earlier.
No spoilers but it seems incredibly novel to have a film open in the UK before it does Stateside. It's obviously much better these days but we used to have to wait months before we got to see films over here.
― groovypanda, Friday, 24 April 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link
You cld spoil whether or not you liked it tho?
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 24 April 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
Enjoyable film without reaching the highs of the first one, much darker and probably not so family friendly but still lots of fun moments. Would like to see the extended version though as a couple of scenes lacked explanation and there was lots of foreshadowing upcoming movies.
Oh and there's only one post credit scene so you won't need to stay til the very end.
― groovypanda, Friday, 24 April 2015 22:48 (nine years ago) link
Thanks
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 24 April 2015 22:50 (nine years ago) link
No spoilers but it seems incredibly novel to have a film open in the UK before it does Stateside.
marvel movies have opened a week earlier in the uk than the us for at least a couple of years now
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 24 April 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
And in Addis Abeba new policy seems to be that the int'l release is a week or two before US dates, not sure why that policy but have gotten many films here before friends back in US have had a chance to see 'em. Problem is, most of the films are not ones I have an interest in seeing
― H in Addis, Saturday, 25 April 2015 06:52 (nine years ago) link
Looks like the extended version is happening then. Will be interesting to see what they cut out although I assume it will definitely include [redacted].
― groovypanda, Monday, 27 April 2015 08:33 (nine years ago) link
the theatrical version feels pretty rushed, which is quite an achievement at 141 minutes. an extended cut might actually make it a good bit more coherent.
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 April 2015 10:46 (nine years ago) link
It seemed overly schematic - now we punch, now we feel, meet back in 20 minutes for some punching.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 27 April 2015 11:53 (nine years ago) link
don't forget the shoehorned-in setups for a couple of the next solo movies
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 27 April 2015 11:58 (nine years ago) link
Except for Ant-Man of course (which given Hank Pym's role in the comics seemed slightly odd).
― groovypanda, Monday, 27 April 2015 12:03 (nine years ago) link
so I watched Captain America: Winter Soldier over the weekend and... man these movies just aren't for me. Felt misled by all the "70s political thriller" talk around this one, when really the only similarity is some government conspiracy window-dressing. Otherwise it hits all the standard action movie beats - the initial fight scene, the setup of the central conflict, the initial defeat, the turnabout, the car chase etc etc. It was foolish of me to expect some kind of talky, low-key homage to "3 Days of the Condor" cuz duh why would Marvel ever allow that to happen when there are generic black-suited clad soldier thugs to be tossed around and CGI things to blow up and pithy one-liners to be delivered. The only sequence that piqued my interest was reel-to-reel Toby Jones booting up and of course that was just a throwaway bit. Again had the feeling that nothing was at stake. Of course nobody is actually going to die, and of course there is a total lack of normal/average people (even as background) to give any sense that the threat of Hydra has any real weight to it beyond providing a conflict for our heroes to resolve. These all stem from my basic disinterest in how "action" movies became codified since the early 80s with Schwarzennegger/Gibson/Stallone/Willis - I'm just bored by the tropes, the motions, the staging, the fight scenes, the explosions, pretty much everything about them. It's been noted here before but these are essentially standard action movies with fancier costumes and as such that doesn't leave much for me to enjoy.
anyway having come to this realization I have to say Dud overall.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 April 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
okay so the new one's pretty good. story is meh, but it's just enough to hang some great scenes and set pieces on. some good zingers, some good character moments. some great cheadle scene heists. all the cgi has real heft to it, which is saying something.
this ultron is a different ultron than the one you might know from the funnybooks. spader makes him work. the vision is believable, which is saying something, and he gets one solid scene.
all in all, extraordinarily well-crafted and utterly forgettable. on to ant-man and panther i guess.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 06:42 (eight years ago) link
all the cgi has real heft to it
Counterpoint: Starting off with a massively fake-looking Thor in the first fight really threw me. The rest was pretty good though.
The nose- and lip-less Ultron, and some of his swagger, reminded me of Bill Nighy's Davey Jones.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 07:31 (eight years ago) link
the thing i appreciated most about it, post-man of steel, is that the avengers spend most of the third act very visibly trying to save lives instead of mindlessly smashing their way through buildings filled with thousands of people
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 08:46 (eight years ago) link
yeah that quite clearly a direct response to Man of Steel
― Number None, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 09:33 (eight years ago) link
clearly inferior to the first one, but nevertheless just SO MUCH FUN - i couldn't possibly imagine anyone else playing Thor or the Cap. the casting is the absolute key to these.really fun to see with an audience of 50% kids/young teens too - kids fucking love the Hulk.
the bit with a certain character and the hammer got the loudest audience reaction actually, and that wasn't fighty fighty at all. fun fun fun.
― jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 13:26 (eight years ago) link
a couple across the aisle from me let out this astounded gasp at that bit and everyone in the cinema laughed at them
― Number None, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link
That couple OTM!
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 13:40 (eight years ago) link
it's a great bit
― Number None, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 13:40 (eight years ago) link
yep - really top-notch craft and payoff on that
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link
and yeah actually point taken - the hammer, throughout, is the exception to the massy CGI rule
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link
Seeing this Thursday night — I idly wondered if there would be a midnight show, so I checked Fandango. Turns out the cinema isn't even waiting until midnight, so we're going to the 2D screening at 8. (I wouldn't have gone to a midnight show, btw.)
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link
I think movie studios realize the midnight release thing was great, but it was depriving them of even more income by releasing a few hours earlier. I can't wait until it goes full cycle through the week and they start releasing on Friday again.
― ultimate american sock (mh), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link
Martin Freeman confirmed for Cap 3.
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link
should start working out right now
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link
Heh. I'm guessing president or other pol behind Registration Act.
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:58 (eight years ago) link
i was thinking the porcupine
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link
for the more sane among you: http://marvel.com/universe/Porcupine_%28Alexander_Gentry%29
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link