- i don't see the static thing as a sin of matt weiner - truly physical acting is something you p much only see in theatre.
well i'd blame the director of that episode, not weiner. but i think mad men, when it triumphs, is mostly a triumph of art design, writing, and acting... but it typically neglects staging. i think the slattery-directed episodes are exceptions, he seems to be interested in exploring that more than other directors.
it's a broader problem than mad men of course. i think most directors of TV and film these days don't pay a lot of attention to staging.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 24 April 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
"What're the odds the final scene of the series is Don throwing himself off a building in a live action version of the title sequence"
that seems to be a common assumption and it's so stupid that if they did that I'd hate the show forever. Nothing about Don reads as suicidal. Maybe he'll drunkenly fall out a window.
― akm, Friday, 24 April 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link
I'd be okay if final shot is Draper throwing Harry Crane out a window
― Οὖτις, Friday, 24 April 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link
i don't think those windows open.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 24 April 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
I'd say "Let's assume things are good" is kind of a tell.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 24 April 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
last line of the show: whoopsie! aaaaaaahhhh....
― entry-level umami (mild bleu cheese vibes) (s.clover), Friday, 24 April 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
final scene is
http://theredlist.com/media/database/settings/cinema/1990-2000/the-hudsucker-proxy/010-the-hudsucker-proxy-theredlist.jpg
― cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Friday, 24 April 2015 22:07 (nine years ago) link
no idea what VOX is but this is interestin
http://www.vox.com/2015/4/22/8466657/mad-men-plan
― piscesx, Saturday, 25 April 2015 02:37 (nine years ago) link
I feel like we've seen this episode three or four times already.
― clemenza, Monday, 27 April 2015 02:29 (nine years ago) link
eh, sorta, but repetition is one of the show's primary issues, like the psychology behind why they try to preserve the status quo albeit sometimes under the slight guise of not doing so
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 27 April 2015 02:42 (nine years ago) link
so it seems sort of appropriate to be in one final loop
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 27 April 2015 02:43 (nine years ago) link
Co-ca Co-la.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 April 2015 02:49 (nine years ago) link
yea that was a monkey wrench to say the least
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 27 April 2015 02:53 (nine years ago) link
"It is not a normal day. Everyone's living in a fright."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 April 2015 03:02 (nine years ago) link
It did take a left turn--I thought it was going to be one more "Let's put on a show" scheme to save the agency, but it wasn't that. Strange ending. (Dean Martin, very big in 1971...I know I'm the only person who cares about the music enough to complain.) Loved Roger's toast to Lou Avery. Still not sure what happened to Harry Hamlin.
― clemenza, Monday, 27 April 2015 03:07 (nine years ago) link
Dying at the MacDonald and Campbell feud.
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 27 April 2015 03:09 (nine years ago) link
xp jim cutler (hamlin) took a buyout but did not want to be involved in the company, it seems like?
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 27 April 2015 04:21 (nine years ago) link
or he'll show up randomly like avery did a few eps in
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 27 April 2015 04:23 (nine years ago) link
YES! That's not at all where I expected that scene to end up, but it was brilliantly absurd.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 April 2015 04:28 (nine years ago) link
The end seemed slightly unrealistic to me. If I'd just been informed my company had been absorbed and we'd be moving to a new office, I'd have a million questions.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 April 2015 04:30 (nine years ago) link
(xposts) That was the punchline to the buyout, though, Cutler voting yes and sheepishly saying "It's a lot of money." I don't remember a word after that--maybe I missed something.
Agree the ending has an unreal quality to it, but thematically, there may be something there. It felt like the world that's so important to these five people is losing its grip on everyone else...although Meredith certainly didn't behave that way.
― clemenza, Monday, 27 April 2015 04:49 (nine years ago) link
Undoubted significance that someone will uncover tomorrow: the reappearance, during Peggy and Stan's big scene, of "Stranger on the Shore." (Maybe it was used on one of the episodes concerning Peggy's pregnancy?)
― clemenza, Monday, 27 April 2015 05:03 (nine years ago) link
Checked it out, and yes--it goes back to "Meditations in an Emergency," which ended season 2 and where Peggy told Pete that she'd had his child and given it away.
― clemenza, Monday, 27 April 2015 05:11 (nine years ago) link
Good catch.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 April 2015 05:15 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/qaRE8pt.png
Cryptic tweet from IRL McCann.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 April 2015 05:54 (nine years ago) link
Diana is Ted Chaough's new girlfriend
― tayto fan (Michael B), Monday, 27 April 2015 13:15 (nine years ago) link
I said that as well, though I don't believe it, just thought it would be funny.
I did decide that Ted is basically anti-Don, or bizarro world Don. He wants and gets exactly the opposite of Don. He slept with Peggy. He went to California. Then he doesn't want to go to California. He's satisfied with the pharmaceutical account. There was more to that I thought about last night but now I've forgotten.
― dan selzer, Monday, 27 April 2015 14:00 (nine years ago) link
Sayonara, my friend! Enjoy the rest of your miserable life.
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 14:22 (nine years ago) link
Speaking of circles 'n' cycles (the California subsidiary office did seem like a good idea at the time; never did quite understand how they avoided that no-compete clause when outright splitting from the Brits), Betty and Glenn's farewell scene perfectly matched her best moment ever, sweetly dissuading the younger Glenn, way back when. He now reveals himself to feel as lost--trying to re-orient by her light--as in the first scene, despite all his wised-up confidence and advice to Sally in the years betwee. Not a fake confidence or wising-up, but his system has broken down, in confused and traumatic times, the burnt cusp of the 60s and 70s, as some things just get even worse (Sally reminds him that he was in tears after Kent State, for instance). Yes, they were standing still in profile, with no distractions; it worked.Struck by how much of last night's ep was about women being gratuitously reminded of limited options.
― dow, Monday, 27 April 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link
Maybe Draper could teach a New School course on advertising: analysis, expose, how-to---students can take it as they please, though McCann wouldn't be pleased. Maybe, like I always figured, he'll go to California anyway. Teach or do something just beyond the no-compete bit (publicity, artists' agent? He's got contacts out there).
― dow, Monday, 27 April 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link
He'll kill Harry Crane and assume his identity.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 April 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
I enjoyed the only Harry footage with him in the background being an irritant on the phone
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
Harry was also in the big meeting at the end, impotently telling people "This is good news!"
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
two hilarious scenes in this - the pete/macdonald feud, which reminded me a bit of anchorman. and duck phoning up don - ludicrous.
pretty great ep, i loved the scene with roger and don at the bar.
also i dunno if it was meant to be funny, but the mccann guy saying the names of the brands was kind of strange, esp the way he pronounced "coca-cola".
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
that wasn't duck
― polyphonic, Monday, 27 April 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
Don on the phone in his empty apartmentDon deciding California office is empty and trying to rally the troopsDon in defeat looking for somewhere to go and finding nothing and no one
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
yeah that was Lou Avery, the great cartoonist
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link
sorry my bad - i can't remember what happened to duck
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
last seen providin the dirt on Bob Benson to Pete
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 April 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
cracking episode. so many call-back moments; Pete and Peggy on the couch just like at the end of Season 2, Don and Roger in the bar together in the Season 1-3 style etc.
particularly great direction i thought too this week (from Jared 'Lane' Harris).
― piscesx, Monday, 27 April 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
am really gonna miss these characters when they're gone.
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
yeah man, big time.
― piscesx, Monday, 27 April 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
it was v relieving after the first two episodes - which were by no means bad but meandered even more than usual mad men style at times - to have last week and last night be certified great installments. especially last night.
"peter, you can't punch everybody"
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 27 April 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
sorry my bad - i can't remember what happened to duck― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, April 27, 2015 7:47 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, April 27, 2015 7:47 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You're quacking up.
― i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
Peggy getting her moments to introspect and interact in uncharacteristic ways
her interaction with children is so awkward
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link
"THE KING ORDERED IT!"
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 April 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
waddle i do
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 April 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
not much 'rock' / 70s type music on the last few episodes i notice.
― piscesx, Monday, 27 April 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Glencoe
― polyphonic, Monday, 27 April 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link
They're part of the establishment now and not really hip to the culture anymore. The core group of SC&P is bound for management and divorced several levels from creative. No one knows what the youth are into, and if they do, it's a role relegated to the entry level.
― ultimate american sock (mh), Monday, 27 April 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link